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Originally posted by themooche
Originally posted by 00PS
Originally posted by James the Lesser
Byrd, been trying to explain Theory to them for years, they don't understand. Issac Asimov as I have quoted explained how creationists think, which is that they don't. They have someone tell them this is the truth, everything else is wrong, and if you hear different don't believe them.
that's not just with creationism, that's with all of religion.
blah blah blah. Religion bashers are no better than religious fundamentalists. You both have one thing in common - the uncompromising urge to insult people whose views conflict with your own. Is there no happy medium? Obviously not for you people, but I've found it and welcomed it long ago. Let's hear it for biased opinions and irrational, closed minded debate.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Originally posted by instar
I fail to see how the two are thought mutually exclusive!
Why?
Intelligent Design states that there is evidence for an intelligent designer, that there are things that exist which are 'immpossible'. Evolution states that there can be no scientific information about god or anything supernatural. They are explicitly exclusive. God and Evolution are not exclusive, but ID states we can have scientific information about god and that god in necessary to have living things, evolution says we can not have scientific information about god and that we don't need supernatural assistance in order to bring things to be.
Originally posted by Lord Altmis
I personally am a fan of intelligent design. I remember a preacher on tv giving a very interesting sermon on circular reasoning and the way fossils are dated
also notice from the above
The geological column, including the relative ages of the strata and dominant fossils within various strata, was determined before the theory of evolution.
instar
what do you say
Originally posted by Nygdan
I also think that any consideration of the history of science and the accompanying philsophies or even a study of rational thought and the like should devote some attention to Creationism, however I do not think that its necessary at a high school level. I also think that Creationism as a philosophical 'system' is about as worthless as creationism as a scientific system, and that as a theological system its abhorent, faithless, and in the end ironically somewhat atheistic and destructive to real religion.
Originally posted by themooche
Are you saying God and philosophy should be kept seperate?
Originally posted by Nygdan
Originally posted by themooche
Are you saying God and philosophy should be kept seperate?
No, a consideration of god is certianly pertinent to philosophy. However creationism or ID as a philosophical system are garbage.
Originally posted by themooche
They can't just be ruled out that easily.
and the teachings of great minds Aquinas, Paley, Hume, Locke and the like are still taught in philosophy classes world wide.
What more are the moral philosophical implications of Intelligent Design Vs Evolution
You have to truly see both sides of the coin for all they're worth before making any brash judgements,
00PS
rule them out that easy but he fails to provide us with an alternative concept
is there a 3rd option?
Originally posted by James the Lesser
I swear, you ID/Creation people are sad, you take something written by people who considered medicine as satanism. What? You took this herb and was healed! SATAN! You people take something written by people who # themselves whenever the earth shakes and then sacrifice 10 virgins to keep god from being angry at them. You people take something written by people who thought the world was flat and center of the universe. And then condem everyone who uses science to hell.
WTF? Let's see, #ting pants every time there is a earthquake, or science......
Originally posted by James the Lesser
And making a fool of myself? No, making a fool out of you. Cause I use reality and you use ignorance. You follow people who thought god hated them when a fire started, I use reality. Sad so many people believe in fairy tales.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Originally posted by instar
I...evolution says we can not have scientific information about god and that we don't need supernatural assistance in order to bring things to be.
...evolution says we can not have scientific information about god and that we don't need supernatural assistance in order to bring things to be...