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originally posted by: billxam
a reply to: nugget1
It's not really an intelligence issue. It's a logic issue. When I was in school, I took a specific classes in logical thinking processes as part of my computer programming classes.
Students are simply not taught logical thinking any more. It's as simple as that. They can't fathom what they are incapable of thinking through observation, comparison, deduction, determining facts. Is it the lack of patience or the "I want it now" society? Maybe but the fact remains that a lot of people can't put 2 and 2 together any more.
Example: Big hearings in Michigan about gasoline prices, all the bigwigs were grilled. They sat there and said it takes time for gas prices to go down because that expensive oil takes time to get through the system. Then they turned around and said that the prices go up so fast because the oil supply chain is so short.
And the politicians bought it.
originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: TzarChasm
Of course there's also the possibility that you can survive without the jab but it's like surviving a high speed bike accident wearing only a t shirt and a ball cap. FWIW.
Had Covid. Not vaccinated. Still here.
Wife had it.
Son had it.
Daughter had it.
None vaccinated. All still here.
originally posted by: vNex92
How could a boosted vaxed person get infected if they were fully boosted with four doses i do not understand this.
As a result, any mutation on the S protein RBD would cause immediate concerns about the efficacy of existing vaccines, mAbs and the potential of reinfection.
Omicron (B.1.1.529): Infectivity, vaccine breakthrough, and antibody resistance]/b]
originally posted by: musicismagic
This is a real question . If the unvax aren't infected just how the heck are they spreading the virus. I bring this up because now in this country, the vax are actually spreading the new corona. Also , currently the vaccine does not stop you from getting the covid. IT IS USELESS. But the selling point is one MIGHT get less sick. Where's the evidence. Seems the news is telling us the ICU are being filled up again . Vax or unvax , hiding the truth.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: musicismagic
This is a real question . If the unvax aren't infected just how the heck are they spreading the virus. I bring this up because now in this country, the vax are actually spreading the new corona. Also , currently the vaccine does not stop you from getting the covid. IT IS USELESS. But the selling point is one MIGHT get less sick. Where's the evidence. Seems the news is telling us the ICU are being filled up again . Vax or unvax , hiding the truth.
At some point, everyone will be a carrier of the virus. Vaccinated or not, you will have the virus in your body and it will be contagious - but the antibodies not so much. I've been hearing from a lot of people across the spectrum of platforms that being sick and unvaccinated is 10x worse than getting sick after your vaccination. It saves on medical expenses and resources in a healthcare industry that was barely sufficient to begin with. Of course there's also the possibility that you can survive without the jab but it's like surviving a high speed bike accident wearing only a t shirt and a ball cap. FWIW.
originally posted by: shasta9600
originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: TzarChasm
Of course there's also the possibility that you can survive without the jab but it's like surviving a high speed bike accident wearing only a t shirt and a ball cap. FWIW.
Had Covid. Not vaccinated. Still here.
Wife had it.
Son had it.
Daughter had it.
None vaccinated. All still here.
Of course you all are. You had a 99.5+ % chance of surviving it. About the same if you had the FLU in 2019
originally posted by: Whereistheflu
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: musicismagic
This is a real question . If the unvax aren't infected just how the heck are they spreading the virus. I bring this up because now in this country, the vax are actually spreading the new corona. Also , currently the vaccine does not stop you from getting the covid. IT IS USELESS. But the selling point is one MIGHT get less sick. Where's the evidence. Seems the news is telling us the ICU are being filled up again . Vax or unvax , hiding the truth.
At some point, everyone will be a carrier of the virus. Vaccinated or not, you will have the virus in your body and it will be contagious - but the antibodies not so much. I've been hearing from a lot of people across the spectrum of platforms that being sick and unvaccinated is 10x worse than getting sick after your vaccination. It saves on medical expenses and resources in a healthcare industry that was barely sufficient to begin with. Of course there's also the possibility that you can survive without the jab but it's like surviving a high speed bike accident wearing only a t shirt and a ball cap. FWIW.
This is more of that liberal logic, I keep talking about. Applying abstract thoughts to concrete ideas. It really is a mental illness.
Covid is not a motorcycle crash.
originally posted by: Whereistheflu
originally posted by: shasta9600
originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: TzarChasm
Of course there's also the possibility that you can survive without the jab but it's like surviving a high speed bike accident wearing only a t shirt and a ball cap. FWIW.
Had Covid. Not vaccinated. Still here.
Wife had it.
Son had it.
Daughter had it.
None vaccinated. All still here.
Of course you all are. You had a 99.5+ % chance of surviving it. About the same if you had the FLU in 2019
In 2019 there were 30 million cases of the flu in the United States. I’m 2020 there were less than two thousand cases of the flu.
This will never be reconciled in my mind
Unvaxxed are more likely to be 8 infected and are more likely to infect others, and the sources in my signature demonstrate clearly that vaxxing reducing covid to a common cold among the vaxxed.
US mortality rate is 1.4 percent now. But its the people being bankrupted by critical care costs that is really going to haunt the US for a generation.
Sources are in my signature.