Should I say something? Dogs

Me & Princess Rocket meet a lot of people on our walks, we kind of like but who have some issues with their dogs. I think I would have one or two observations that could make their lives easier. It just feels a little intrusive to offer them without being asked.
Would you say something?

One has a pack of three where one constantly wanders off molesting all the bitches and a second one now starts to copy that, my thought would be that if he'd interact with them a little more instead of always just chatting with everybody he meets it would get better. You know just say something like that I feel he could make himself more interesting and give them more opportunities to show what good boys they are.
Is that too much?

The other one is a lady with the cutest Labrador but a heavy guy who pulls her off her feet occasionally, now she wants to get him castrated but I am afraid he'll get fat and lethargic if she does.
My thinking was that if she would remove him sideways he'd lose balance and be forced to pay more attention to where she's going.
But again nobody asked for my opinion. It's just a little hard to watch.

Should I say something? Obviously I would be polite about it, but... I don't know it's not really my business. But I think it could improve things for them.
Yay or nay?

Say nothing.

a reply to: Peeple

a reply to: Dalamax

Thank you for your opinion. It's probably best

a reply to: Peeple

You obviously want to tell them, so go for it...

...if he'd interact with them a little more instead of always just chatting with everybody he meets it would get better...

If he↑ doesn't like your suggestion and thinks you should mind your own business, then what would happen? If he decides to stop talking to you, then at the same time he would also be taking your advice. Less time talking to you = more time with his dogs.

My thinking was that if she would remove him sideways he'd lose balance and be forced to pay more attention to where she's going.

I don't understand "remove him sideways"

a reply to: Peeple

I think it reaches a point (the molesting and straying away) where you are perfectly fine if you speak out to it.

Situations like that depend a lot on how you approach them. It's not intrusive to make another human aware that there is an issue and even provide a solution. The difficulties come with the approach and how to begin the conversation.

I would start like with a smile and approach them like "Hello, good day I noticed ... and if you noticed too that ..., I can offer you a solution that might help you with this"

This does not accuse the one of being incapable, but asking if he made that observation too and offering a solution that they need to ask for. So you are very passive in offering a solution and it's up to the one to engage the conversation and accept your offer.

It would be different if you'd start approaching like "Hey you need to .... because ....". Dogs are often like children, so the owners kind of protect them from all bad say.

Coming from a family with trained dogs, it's hard to shut up some times and often I do. But when I see things like you described it's my duty to point them out because I love dogs.

It would be different just bickering, but you are ready with a solution. It's the same with children, if I see a parent with three kids and one wanders off constantly to beat / annoy random strange kids, I would speak out to it, too, if the parents would just not care.

a reply to: BrokenCircles

Less time talking to you = more time with his dogs.

We have two minutes we talk if we meet, I'm not the issue. Lol.
Mostly when I bring him his dog back because my girl is 'popular' and we're always playing ball and having fun so he kind of always comes looking for us and follows us around.
I don't mind much he's a nice dog, but it's just not ...right. And I have had other people complaining to me that they had problems with him.
The owner is self-declared dog trainer. That's another thing why I'm kind of sure he wouldn't respond well to me saying something.

I don't understand "remove him sideways"

She always tries to just hold him back, forces 180° opposite direction. If she would adjust that angle to a ca. 90° he couldn't pull full power.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

I just feel like I tried that with my jokes. But obviously subtle doesn't sink in.
He's kind of famous amongst dog owners in the area. Some are fans others the opposite. I don't know but I'd guess a lot of people have already told him he should control his dogs better. So it's a little tricky to find an approach that he thinks about the suggestion without feeling attacked. Because at some point blunt is the last option. But I don't want him to think that I don't like him, you know?

a reply to: Peeple

Hm. If you want to help you might have to drop your thought patterns about the last sentence. If he does think that because you want to help him, consider if it's worth the hassle in bending and twisting who you are, to get his appreciation (in lack of a better term).

This doesn't fit perfectly but you might get the idea:

Instead of doing good deeds for appreciation, do them by yourself, be kind and warm, steady, reliable and true to yourself. Then you will be loved, appreciated and welcomed, just like the sun.

If you fear that he might be incapable of acknowledging your help for what it is... Maybe that's not the type of person you want to be around. If you can't be yourself, really what are you winning?

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

No it's more that I get along with everybody and I don't want the drama just because I had to get involved without being the one who has the actual problem.
It's not about appreciation, just that I don't want to get involved in the looming conflict. Preferably prevent it altogether.

a reply to: Peeple
You're harmony seeking person?

Then you might have to make a decision. Do you like the harmony but not be able to say what you think you need to say? Or are you going to endure situations like that for someone else's appreciation and have the harmony?

At what price?

It's two harmonies in concurrency. You won't be able to have both. One is external and one is internal. Coming clean no matter the outcome would give you inner peace and harmony, the freedom to express yourself no matter what the fallout is, being true to yourself.

Sticking it back because you do not want to destroy the harmony... seems to violate your inner principles, so it looks like you can't have both.

Not trying to be a smart ass and telling you what to do, but I learned it's better to ask questions, from a wise man. In a way, we're very similar but let me tell you, I've been like this before and I got nowhere really, and it got others nowhere because I didn't speak up to not destroy harmony.

Whatever you do it's all your decision, just trying to provide some perspectives for you to look at.

originally posted by: Peeple
No it's more that I get along with everybody...

LOL. I'm a people person too!!!!!

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

You wouldn't believe that from me being the ATS resident chief bitch...lol
But offline yes I like harmony.
And as I said to BrokenCircles

I have had other people complaining to me that they had problems with him.

Because they see us wandering around together. And some folks are really pissed. That's what I meant with preventing the potentially looming conflict.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

When online and offline personality crash...

originally posted by: Peeple
When online and offline personality crash...

I know, you're probably sweet in person. I'd let you buy me a drink before you verbally berate me and then punch me in the throat.

a reply to: Peeple

Oh so it's also about your image towards others and your image in his eyes? Hm that changes everything in perspective. A real friend calls out something that is wrong, with love and good heart.

A real friend will understand that and receive it, and even if not agreeing, will value you for your honesty or discuss the matter with you. Friends like that are seldom though.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

You have spinach in your teeth.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
Sums it up pretty good!

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

We're not friends we greet we laugh we go seperate ways.
The us in 'see us wandering around' was the dog.

a reply to: Peeple

Now I am completely confused lol. Whatever you do, don't overthink it, go by what your heart tells you to do.

I know... the ultimative non answer

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Peeple
When online and offline personality crash...

I know, you're probably sweet in person. I'd let you buy me a drink before you verbally berate me and then punch me in the throat.

That must be this inflation I keep hearing so much about. For a drink I should get more than that