Australian Friends- How y'all doing?

a reply to: Krusty the Klown

Are you for real!?!
Its not really a choice when you're deciding between feeding your family, paying your mortgage and being allowed to leave your house or else.

I was thinking you were an idiot but wasn't sure, thank you for removing any doubt.

originally posted by: Krusty the Klown
a reply to: Artlogic

No, no-one has been forced under duress to take the jab to keep their jobs. I've quit jobs for much less than that and it led to a much better job. We now have a labour shortage in the country - if the employer mandates the jab - that is on the employer not the government. F@ck that employer, there are heaps of jobs available now because there are no foreign workers here, just go and work somewhere else. No-one is forcing anybody to work anywhere.

I go down the pub and the cafe with my vaxxed and unvaxxed friends most days of the week and we don't seem to see what your describing.

No legal precedent has been set, big employers are crying out to government complaining that they can't get enough workers.

What sort of work do you do my friend?

Restrictions for unvaccinated people
From 17 December 2021, unvaccinated people are not permitted to:

visit vulnerable settings, including hospitals, residential aged care, disability accommodation services, and prisons. This does not apply to residents and patients of these facilities, and there will be some exceptions for medical treatment, end-of-life visits, childbirth and emergency situations
attend hospitality venues such as hotels, pubs, clubs, taverns, bars, restaurants or cafes
attend indoor entertainment venues such as nightclubs, live music venues, karaoke bars, concerts, theatres or cinemas
attend outdoor entertainment activities such as sporting stadiums, theme parks or tourism experience like reef excursions
attend festivals – either indoor or outdoor – such as musical festivals, folk festivals or arts festivals
attend Queensland Government owned galleries, museums or libraries.

www.covid19.qld.gov.au...

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Democratic governance is dead, voting is pointless.
Corporatocracy, thats where we are at.

a reply to: Artlogic

Like I said, you live in QLD.

Come down to NSW most of that does not apply here, that's just your Anastasia with her rules.

FYI she just scrapped the border closures today so hopefully you can get some food now like the rest of the country.

Your welcome to come and stay at my place if you like.

a reply to: Iknewstuff

Who is forcing you not to leave your house if you are not a case contact?

What jurisdiction do you live in?

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Hey F2

You and I are very like minded and I agree with what you are saying re the influence of bureaucracy in western governmental rule.

You must take in to account we live in different jurisdictions with different health care systems. We have universal health care here in Australia, ie socialised medicine, which is not driven by the profit motive. The medical bureaucrats here... some of them actually care about helping people. Very different in the US - very scary.

Everything else I agree with you on.

originally posted by: Krusty the Klown
a reply to: Iknewstuff

Who is forcing you not to leave your house if you are not a case contact?

What jurisdiction do you live in?

Apologies, you're not an idiot you are just selfish.
It doesn't affect you and you're OK so no one should complain is basically what you're saying.

I'm in Melbourne, I've lost my job and technically aren't allowed in anywhere except supermarkets.
What's going on is tyrannical and if you can't see that you're part of the Problem

a reply to: Iknewstuff

Thanks for the pre-judgement, but I'm out of work because of all this too. I'm just not complaining about it as though its everybody else's fault. It's just the universe and the planet we live in. It deals up all sorts of adversity at all times of life.

As I said earlier, most people in Australia born past WWII have never faced real adversity like the Depression and WWII threats of invasion and food shortages and rationed food, let alone what it's like living in a third world country right now. As a history buff I can appreciate it and can see where we sit in perspective of how hard it was living in the past compared to how well we have it now where we can't live without wi-fi and a big screen TV.

I don't know where my next job will be, but I'm not going to sit on my @rse blaming everyone else, I'm just going to get on with it and get hunting for the next job.

P.S. I feel for you losing your job, QLD and VIC seem to suffer more because of your Labor Premiers, if you can look to NSW, there are heaps of jobs on offer, hopefully I can find one too.

a reply to: Krusty the Klown

I'm also a fan of history and at no other point in time has pretty much the entire world been put under martial law for what is basically a nasty flu.
People are losing their jobs and their sanity not because of health based decisions but political ones.

If there was a genuine reason for the nonsense that's happening that's one thing but I'm sure even you can see there is no logic to what's happened the past 2 years.

Im still working just not in my usual capacity.
I'll make another assumption which is that since losing your job you have been happily on the dole.

No offence but you come across as self entitled and very unlikable

a reply to: Iknewstuff

None of the world has been placed under martial law due to the pandemic in the last two years, that a different thing. Martial Law is brutal and nothing to do with reducing death due to disease.

People have been losing their jobs and their sanity, including my own, on minimising loss of life and quality of life, particularly in Australia which is what this thread is about.

I do understand the logic what's happened in the last two years in Australia. What I think is the biggest travesty and tragedy is that is was not a combined Federal response. The s@itshow that has happened between the states shows that the states are now irrelevant and should be abolished. What I have seen people from other states say what is happening to them is astounding compared to how things have been like in NSW from the start - including you.

And no I have not been happily on the dole, how can anybody be happily on the dole?

I've been living on my savings which won't last too long.

I'm glad that you still have work and hope the best for you and your family.

a reply to: Krusty the Klown

I am from the USA but actually live in Europe. I see the downside of socialized medicine as well; it is not a utopia. Long wait times as compared to patients who use the same systems but have private medical insurance. Some of the doctors are good, others aren't. But then, I've yet to see a big government system that was particularly efficient. Some of the systems work out mostly to the benefit of the public.

You seem calm with the situation you are experiencing. Hope it all works out for you and your countrymen.

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

That sounds the same as here in Oz.

We have the private and the public system here too.

Nothing will ever be perfect.

originally posted by: Iknewstuff

In a state with 4.5 million people (95% fully vaxxed) we are averaging around 40,000 cases per day.

That's actually crazy. In Ontario (Canada) we have around 15 million people and our highest ever daily count was under 15k. Although we just stopped testing people this month so the real numbers are likely 10x higher.

Hey Crusty....
I'm in NSW and am glad.....I'm experiancing the same as you....north and south of us is mental because of bad Premiers / control freaks...just like the U.S. with some of their crazy state Governors / control freaks.....
I'm old school blue collar tradie.....I'm still getting hired for work even though I'm unvacced, as a casual...come, earn and leave...suits me....they have penciled me in for outages this year...things are looking better.
I grew up in a world where politicians were considered a joke....they were full of crap ...BUT now its the reverse and the sun shines out of their asses and they can do no wrong, so say X amount of our country ......

my opinion....politicians CAUSE problems.....they are not problem solvers.....they don't have the skills...
we have a Federal Election coming up...lets see what happens then....a few chickens may come home to roost.
I always remember and laugh....cane toads.
a reply to: Krusty the Klown

If Australia force vaxxes up to, let's say 10 boosters, statistically everyone will have had a bad batch by then. Probably 90% depopulation within 3-5 years.

a reply to: tri-lobe-1

Good to hear you're doing OK Tri-lobe.

I'm wondering if the Labor Premiers are doing it to try and destabilize the Federal government and the coming federal election?

Although I don't know how that would work???

Understand, initially the government made no moves to openly enforce/mandate the shots here in Australia. They did however incentivise business's to do so. Given the lockdowns had already been in effect, prior to the jabs being made available. Majority of people folded to get the jabs. On the basis of being able to maintain their way of life. I myself unwillingly committed to doing this.

Now that I have tested positive, currently dealing with the effects of covid. Having more recently seen data presented, to effectively quantify the vaccines aren't safe. An dont do what GP's and government officials have stated. I can't submit to taking another one of these shots... however I don't have the expressed confidence that others would do the same. So many people have convinced themselves these shots are the only way. Even in the face of evidence that states they are not.

originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: chris_stibrany

Hey mate.

Broken Hill, what a place. Cheapest beer I ever had was there at the Working Mens Club. The architecture there is also quite remarkable, check it out.

From my own personal perspective things really are not going well. The Missus and I are segregated from many parts of the community and that does not look like changing anytime soon, if ever. The missus is a teacher and is refusing to become a participant and so will be out of a job pretty soon. I lost any chance of income in the middle of last year.

So were looking at selling soon and getting out of Queensland, and if we could Australia, but I doubt that'll be possible.

The problem is the psychosis that has now become entrenched here. They're going hell for leather to inject all of the children. In NSW they even changed the health legislation last year to come up with the term "Mature Minor Consent". That means a child can provide consent to the experimental injection in the absence of a parent. Yes you read that correctly. We're talking about children who have yet to decide whether they want to be an astronaut, brain surgeon or train driver making a decision about an experimental medical procedure that even the scientists who came up with this sh!t can't answer.

Even now with the admission from pfizzer that their injections do little to fcku all against the virus, the injection rollout is set to stay and expand, as is the segregation.

These are the hospital numbers from yesterday;

Today Western Australia has completely shut it's borders to everyone. Even if you have an immediate family member that dies there and you're in another state, too bad.

So many people have lost their minds, and I don't think there is anyway back for them.

That means a child can provide consent to the experimental injection in the absence of a parent. Yes you read that correctly.

I can report that the exact same thing is happening in the Netherlands and for a while now.

Pot k

This is kettle k

Your black +

a reply to: Iknewstuff

The roads are crap now mask wits are allowed to leave home again.

I don’t watch teevee or listen to radio so I have natural immunity to the clot shot hype.

Deaths are starting to creep up but by my reckoning the first jabbers should be starting to drop about nowish.

Still making splash and growing veggies so no worries there.

Sun is hot and the water is warm.

How’re you going?

a reply to: chris_stibrany