My "vaxxed" friends are all sick...

My granddaughter is still sick with the Covid virus, so is my daughters husband and his daughter. They are all vaccinated. Their sickness from the virus was way worse than mine, maybe more like the wife's illness from covid...she was also vaccinated. The vaccine doesn't work very well in my opinion, none of us would probably have been at risk of dying anyway.

The daughters family are out and about with hockey and all sorts of social events, same with the granddaughter, so they wanted to do more so they said they got vaccinated....yet because of their risky lifestyle, I really did not want to be around them much because it has been known right from the start that a vaccinated person with the mRNA vaccine can still get covid and pass it on...how does that actually protect the vulnerable they visit? The vaccines also do not protect those who are at the highest risk...so why bother vaccinating people who have little risk of dying from covid or orf getting a serious case. There is so much deceit being spread by the Federal Agencies that it turns my stomach...the deceit is usually not an outright lie, it is that they are steering us to interpret things incorrectly. Lying without actually lying.

originally posted by: MDDoxs

originally posted by: incoserv

originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: incoserv

There are social media platforms that have sections that post stories of anti vaccination people demonizing the vaccine, diminishing the seriousness of the virus, fighting against the “establishment” and ultimately dying.

Ironic, funny and sad.

There are thousands and thousands of instances of people who have taken the injection and become gravely sick, are permanently incapacitated or dead!

That is ironic and sad, but not funny.

Fascinating, the claim you just made also frequently appears on these anti vaccine persons timeline.

It doesn't change the fact that no one should be forced to get these shots and that most people in 2020, all unvaccinated, got mild to no fluish symptoms. Used as a predictor through 2022 we'll continue to see most people get mild to no symptoms so no one should be bullied by media and government to get them. If I feel they are unneeded and/or unsafe for me, the coercion amounts to cruelty.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: incoserv

There are social media platforms that have sections that post stories of anti vaccination people demonizing the vaccine, diminishing the seriousness of the virus, fighting against the “establishment” and ultimately dying.

Ironic, funny and sad.

thinking that someone dying is funny is demented.

It is when the person is equally demented in a world of excess information. The problem is they get tricked in to believing false information, information peddled by individuals who imagine themselves crusaders, spreading false narratives on obscure social media boards.

a reply to: MDDoxs

spreading false narratives on obscure social media boards.
You mean like how grand the mainstream news media had being doing for the past two years? just doses and one dose and life would return to normal if we all Get vaxed.

Look at Gibraltar 100% vaccinated and cases all time since the start of the pandemic. And in Aus they want to keep boosting every three months. Sorry that is not maintainable.


Nothing had changed once you get vaccinated look at the rules, mandates they are all still in place no matter if you are vaxed or boosted. They wont let go these things even if everyone kept massive complying to get these rules out.

problem is they get tricked in to believing false information

No different from believing the supposed TV experts from advisory tables who sit all day in their bedrooms giving interviews how effective the boosts are right? and how un vaccinated are the ones causing the problems right?

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: putnam6

How could the Canadian PM, JT and Doug Ford be urging the unvaxed to get vaxed or be blaming the un vaccinated for the spread or those in ICU?

The un vaccinated cant even travel on trains or airliners last time i checked?

Because they are heavily invested in this now, not only financially but politically. They are hoping people won't check the numbers. If this falls apart so might their political futures, if it comes out they lied or profited in any way, they should have problems finding a job at a Tim Horton's

I'm seeing the same thing. I have 4 employees. 3 are now in quarantine. 1 if those 3 has been having heart palpatations, dizziness and getting sick every other week with something that drags her low. My best friend is also vaxxed and boostered and has tested pos., been sick, and quarantined twice.
Almost everyone in my family is vaxxed and they have ALL been really sick at least once but tested negative.
There were reports coming out about the vaxx destroying the immune system but I haven't been following it. Madness

a reply to: Starcrossd

Here's the thing - The vaccine isn't supposed to prevent all illness of every kind, and when we kept ourselves stuck indoors, we kept ourselves from doing what we normally do - mixing and matching and spreading around all the thousand and one little bits and bugs we normally share amongst ourselves.

People are simply forgetting what it's like to be sick now that we're starting to live our regular lives again, and everyone is super paranoid thanks to the state of fear the press has kept us in so that every little thing we get seems like it's ten times worse because we're afraid it is for all our various reasons.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Gothmog

If we're operating under the assumption at this point that the "vaccine" is no more than a therapeutic that blunts symptoms and is not an effective preventive at all, then the statement you're reacting to is true.

Your beef then would be more with the idea that we call it a vaccine because it conveys an idea that it stops you from getting ill and has actual preventive value when it doesn't seem to beyond maybe the first week or five after you get it.

Wait , what ?
I never mentioned anything about the effectiveness .
What i was saying was in rebuttal to incorrect comparisons and faulty math among sets and subsets .

originally posted by: incoserv

originally posted by: Spacespider
I wonder if it is the same thing in those vials, because here in Denmark I know lots of people getting vaxxed, including the 3 shot, including myself. I did not get sick nor did they ?

It's been proven that the vials/lots do not contain the same stuff from batch to batch. I'll post a video shortly.

So if someones vaxxed and gets sick, they got a bad batch, if they are vaxxed but havent gotten sick (like myself, with booster) its one of those safe batchs...

How convenient for those that think there's a conspiracy.

a reply to: Gothmog

How do you account for areas with insanely high vaccination rates that also have high infection rates?

The vaccine isn't what we were told it would be. Now I have no doubt at the point of release they had the hubris to think it would be, but, ummm, life finds a way. Rona mutates like all viruses tend to over time, and the vaccine is about as effective as any other that we've come up with for rapidly mutating seasonal type respiratory illnesses.

a reply to: BigfootNZ

Is an experiment and the experiment is not over, the vials and the doses are not the same, but because you are a volunteer you do not need to know.

My sister-in-law and my mother in-law got the JJ the same day, both were injected by different nurses but while my mother-in-law had not symptoms after the jab, my sister-in-law ended in the ER with blood clot in her legs and having emergency surgery, she now has problems with her blood.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Starcrossd

Here's the thing - The vaccine isn't supposed to prevent all illness of every kind, and when we kept ourselves stuck indoors, we kept ourselves from doing what we normally do - mixing and matching and spreading around all the thousand and one little bits and bugs we normally share amongst ourselves.

People are simply forgetting what it's like to be sick now that we're starting to live our regular lives again, and everyone is super paranoid thanks to the state of fear the press has kept us in so that every little thing we get seems like it's ten times worse because we're afraid it is for all our various reasons.

Not bumping my old thread but I think it shed some light on what you posted.

The Human Microbiome - And So Much About Microorganism We Don't Understand

a reply to: ketsuko

How do you account for areas with insanely high vaccination rates that also have high infection rates?

That was precisely my point.
My reply to the original post by the member did not take into effect of comparisons and weighted factors .

originally posted by: booyakasha
i have 4 friends that all got the vid last week.
one unvaxxed friend who got over it in about two days.
3 vaxxed friends who have beens sick for a week.
one of my friends is a nurse at the U of U. He didnt take a test for the vid cause he has no sick days left he says. Went to work last night...
Another is a nurse at a different hospital. She hasn't been to work in a week.

I've hung out with these people all last week before they got sick. Im still fine. Still unvaxxed.

Well I acquired immunity to Omicron in December 2021. I'm unvaxxed and it lasted about 14-15 days for me. The first 5 days of it, the muscle and back aches were terrible. It literally felt like some sort of chemical fire was going on in my blood and muscles. I have an extremely high pain threshold, but the pain from Omicron was so intense that I cried myself to sleep. After that, it was more like a cold with congestion then runny nose. Congestion. Then runny nose.

Except, whatever version of Omicron that I caught came from the maintenance man that I work with. He caught it because he felt sorry for some homeless dumpster divers who were sick and he let them take showers at his place.

Being that was the case, what dumpster did those homeless people dig in to catch it? (probably a hotel dumpster along the highway, so something from a tourist).

And was it regular Omicron (BA.1)? Was it stealth Omicron (BA2)? Or was it the third version of Omicron (BA.3)? And I have no idea which Omicron that I caught. And it might very well be that I was co-infected with Omicron and something else being that it was dumpster divers who dug it up.

The rest of Arizona is beginning their surge. There's another 4 neighbors with Omicron and I am re-exposed to Omicron. But nothing. No symptoms. So immunity is achieved by January.

But Omicron mutates so fast, that it's probably best to get exposed and exposed to each little mutation because the next version might have 10 mutations, then 20 mutations, then 50 more mutations.

So if exposed to each little mutation here and there then the better the chance of fighting off the strain with 50 more mutations down the road.

Everyone has to keep building immunity.

originally posted by: incoserv
Just another anecdotal instance here.

My family has not and will not take the death jab. We live in a place where it's not compulsory and there is still no penalty or stigma to not having it.

I currently know three families that have been injected and are all sick. Spoke with them last night, hoping to get together today. They're all "quarantined."

In my family, we are following the FLCCC protocol (I can get IVM here OTC). I take IVM weekly, my wife twice a week. We circulate freely in society, don't use face diapers, take no extra precautions beyond common sense, and are well.

There is a massive injection campaign going on down the street from my house. I watch the sheep stroll by and just roll my eyes. I've lost all compassion for them. I figure this is maybe an instance of quasi-Darwinian "unnatural selection." I do know good people who have been duped and it pisses me off, but most of them are just idiots

This is ridiculous. Just f*****g ridiculous.

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I'll add another "anecdotal" to the list....my 4 coworkers who got jabbed are all out with covid. I work closely with them. I have not been sick, let alone caught covid since the beginning. I have not been jabbed.

a reply to: jidnum

Similar for me. During the last two weeks or so, of the handful of friends and family who have cold symptoms, all but one have taken the shot.

originally posted by: BigfootNZ

originally posted by: incoserv

originally posted by: Spacespider
I wonder if it is the same thing in those vials, because here in Denmark I know lots of people getting vaxxed, including the 3 shot, including myself. I did not get sick nor did they ?

It's been proven that the vials/lots do not contain the same stuff from batch to batch. I'll post a video shortly.

So if someones vaxxed and gets sick, they got a bad batch, if they are vaxxed but havent gotten sick (like myself, with booster) its one of those safe batchs...

How convenient for those that think there's a conspiracy.

Trust big pharma. Don't ask questions. Take the jab. They want to cure you not keep you sick. /s

originally posted by: fernalley
I have also noticed the vaxxed getting sick around here. They are testing negative for cv. A neighbor ,who is a nurse, returned from Mexico and got so sick she went to acute care. She tested negative for flu and cv. The others feel they had a bad flu and their families are catching it as well. One gal and her parents spent Xmas sick. I wonder if their immune systems have been compromised?

This is happening where I live also. Many getting very very sick with "colds" and "flu" and testing negative for COVID.

More than usual for winter.

All are double or triple vaxxed, as I am. SHUDDER

The government lied to me about vaccine protection. It was useless as far as I can see from what is happening around me and in the world.

Like Gibraltar with 100% vax rate and massive numbers now ill with COVID.

The governments of the world clearly lied and are still pushing and forcing as many as possible to take whatever was in those vaccines, it certainly wasn't 95% protective from COVID as they said repeatedly and with authority.

We, including me, were roundly deceived.

I'm old enough that if I die from it, so be it. But my 10 year old grandchild? I hope those responsible for this "great deception" rot in the worst hell possible. Looks like purposeful genocide on a world wide basis. Not just the vaccine but the development of the disease in China.