Looking for a documentary Lunar Elfin Wonders

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Author of that article has fallen for the lava floor deception, he is analyzing fake, airbrushed frames and thus comes to flawed conclusions. How could he know if he never saw the real photo of the lake.

a reply to: tachyonator9

Sidebar….. here are articles about Vladimir Terziski, from Bulgaria, that doesn’t put him in a good light. (Yes I know it’s from a sensationalism tabloids)

(Re-post) LUNACY Conspiracy theorist makes ridiculous claim that Nazi scientists set up a base on the MOON – and he says he can prove it

And this one….. Nazis landed on the MOON’ Truth behind shock claims Hitler reached SPACE

According to these articles….. Vlad’s credibility is being called into question.

From the Imgur link….sourced by Vladimir


Adding……. (Link didn’t work) here’s a screenshot…

Unfortunately, I can’t subscribe to Vlad’s assertions…imo.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

For a moment i thought you got some new info from Vladimir, his last interview being a radio one in LA in 2000 or 2001.

As you can see in the source article in Daily Star which is clearly a pulp/yellow internet zine, they just wrote "Bulgarian researcher Vladimir Terziski claims to have “evidence” of the Reich’s successful missions to the Moon." no where, when nothing, so they are quoting based on his old published stuff most likely youtube videos. To this they add their skepticism about Nazis reaching the Moon in rocket saucer, not even the mention of the far more important gravity saucers, so nothing here to touch Vladimir's credibility. That said, i have not planned to share this other stuff, but now i have to, so Germans had whole multiple series of gravity propelled saucers and allegedly a cigar mothership too prior to the end of WW2 and apparently long before going back to first model JFM which first flew in 1922. For start here is an FBI document about a Polish guy, ex Nazi war prisoner who in 1944. in eastern Germany saw a 75-100 yard wide Nazi gravitational saucer which stalled the tractor nearby and Nazi soldier who was aware of the test of the spacecraft did not attempt to start it until the it left the area.

vault.fbi.gov.../p88



Nice documentary about Nazi saucers, audio is little out of sync but its ok

youtu.be...

a reply to: tachyonator9

Hey, I think German aerospace is fantastic and was ahead of its time. I even have some model’s of the Horten Brother’s flying wings.

It’s the bases, cities, artificial domes, etc on the moon…. I can’t agree with without boots on the ground, rovers and newer and updated orbital lunar imagery with better cameras zooming in with close-ups.

German exotic aircraft is good for a thread on it’s own.

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originally posted by: tachyonator9
originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo inser shameless liess... You've alleged that someone used photos that weren't public knowledge when in fact they were. Your arguments just aren't holding up. So many lies and deceptions,

The editing of my post is childish. Grow up, stop acting like a petulant adolescent.

Firstly, they aren't lies. For them to be lies they would need to be a) untrue and b) I would have to know them to be untrue. Neither of those is the case.

but let's focus just on this particular lie,

Not a lie, the pst I made above proves that, however we'll play along with your little game for a bit...

i ask you again, if the color shot of the Lake i embeded above is "in the public knowledge" SHOW IT, none of the frames you linked even resembles it let alone be it.

Obviously the links I gave you were too difficult to follow. Let me spell it out. This is the Apollo 8 image in question:

www.lpi.usra.edu...

and this is the low resolution copy of that image from the link above:

This is the section of your supposedly secret image superimposed on that Apollo 8 photo - note I've had to reverse the image:

Here is that image of your superimposed on the Zeiss slide from the link I posted above:

Here is a photo of my copy of the Apollo 8 Photo Analysis book:

Note the publication date:

It contains every photograph taken by Apollo 8. Here's the page with the relevant image of Tsiolkovskiy:

and here is that image with your one superimposed. Again, your image need flipping to make it correct:

It's had to be stretched more becaue of the viewing angle of my photo, but it is identical.

The awful photocopy of the front page of the Orange County newspaper 'The register' is showing a cropped copy of Apollo photo AS08-12-2196

www.lpi.usra.edu...

Here's the copy from my book superimposed on the newspaper image:

Just for fun, I found another copy of the Apollo 13 image in my collection:

That's from the 1974 magazine series ' Man in Space'.

All of the photos you have posted are public domain and always have been. They have always been available in books, magazines or slide and photograph collections.

a reply to: tachyonator9

look up vector symbology and nasa

I did not edit your post, i only quoted just the sentence i decided to address. As for your last post with skew and warp tools in PS you can make any perspective fit, and even more importantly your frames COMPLETELY lack the color and the details of this photo. In other words, no relation WHATSOEVER.

originally posted by: tachyonator9
I did not edit your post,

So this:

" inser shameless liess..."

doesn't count as an edit?

There's a difference between not quoting things that aren't relevant and adding a false accusation to a post.

i only quoted just the sentence i decided to address. As for your last post with skew and warp tools in PS you can make any perspective fit,

The fact is that it's the same photo shown in the links I gave you. Prove otherwise. I could have scanned the book, but you're not worth the effort.

and even more importantly your frames COMPLETELY lack the color and the details of this photo. In other words, no relation WHATSOEVER.

The reason my photos lack the colour of yoru version is because they haven't been edited to add them. The colur cast on your photos either been added deliberately or is present in the poor quality images that have been used already. I have numerous copies of the same photographs that vary in colour profile depending on how the printers have chosen to deal with them. Whining about them being the wrong colour is a poor attmept at deflecting away from the content.

The fact is that your supposedly secret photos are just a cropped photo of a slide that was freely available. Your claim that it wasn't a publicly available photograph has been proven wrong and you've been lied to.

Iremembered I had this saved. It's from an ebay listing for a slide catalog from one of the many companies that bought the rights to reproduce them and sell them to the public:

It has several Tsiolkovskiy images, including this one:

As for that high altitude Apollo 8 shot used on the 'Register' front page, here it is in the 1969 book 'Lunar Panoramas":

and the 1971 book "A new photographic atlas of the moon"

Both my copies.

It's also available in this auction sale of an original press photo:

www.worthpoint.com...

and in the Apollo 8 mission report

www.worthpoint.com...

Let's have a look at that 'Newspaper' front page in more detail:

It's purporting to be a front page of the Santa Ana paper 'The Register' (it became the Orange County Register later, my mistake).

It's fake. How do we know it's fake? Because of the way it looks and what's in it. First of all, it's not form 1972, it's from an article published on October 16th 1971.

I know this because I found this collection of 'paper handouts on George Adamski'

pdfcoffee.com...

and in it is this:

which gives the article date, and nowhere does it claim to be a front page. The article relates to a very thin, very tenuous cloud of water vapour found by Apollo instruments:

adsabs.harvard.edu...

It's often cited as 'proof' that there are gushing waterfalls and oceans by cranks, but other reports have suggested that the tiny amounts could have been from Apollo 14's ascent module exhaust or even orbital urine dumps:

arxiv.org...

Anyhow, back to the image. Looks familiar right? The photo on the right is the same one as is used in the Fred Steckling book. The layout is very, very similar, in fact, when you take the text from the top bit of that 'handout' and superimpose it on the 'front page', this is what you see:

It's an exact match. There's also the matter of the white blocking of the text above the Apollo 8 image (circled). What's being hidden there? Why? Why is the banner headline presented above the Newspaper's own banner as if to give it far more importance than it was in the actual edition. The Register's banner appeared at the top, not part way down.

So, the front page presented as some sort of proof is a fake. The article itself is genuine, but it's been lifted from other documents by UFO cranks trying to fool people and superimposed with other things to present a false narrative. Who is it that's lying, exactly?

Let's also look at the photo itself on the supposed front page.

Here's a photo of the relevant page from the original printing of Fred Steckling's "We discovered alien basesd on the moon" book, obtained from the Secureteam10's (yes, them!) twitter feed:

twitter.com...

Let's see how it matches up with the one on the 'front page':

The red arrows point to the thin arrow used in Steckling's book and a blemish in the Apollo photo itself.

That blemish does not appear in the original Apollo image (see my links above), nor does it appear in later editions of Steckling's book:

Fraud, pure and simple. Lazy research? Not from me.

"insert shameless lies" is more like a joke altho its true as time will tell, you deny the truth.

Your main issue is that you refuse to admit that NASA and other space agencies are editing Moon photos to extreme degree, we are not talking bit here and there, we are talking COMPLETE and ABSOLUTE removal of color, contrast, detail, in one word INFORMATION.

From your previous post i got a sense you agree that those two NASA videos i linked are valid altho you see nothing strange about 'em. Fine. Let's forget lakes, vegetation, cities... Let's focus on a simple comparison. Watch the first two videos again, first is of course Tsiolkovsky and second is also far side, unknown location.

www.youtube.com...

How do you explain the difference, the high contrast, brown Moon in the videos...



And the official look, this one being Apollo 17 shot of Tsiolkovsky from Wikipedia, i could've picked any other one as i shown before, or other space agency, they ALL show it like this. I assume you're gonna say it's the "lightning effect"



BTW the frame AS08-12-2196 you focused on i already shared before, i got it many years ago in artificially colorized version from now dead Holyconservance website, i think the source is Jose Escamila. Below you can see the crop of the Lake and further zoomed into south-western shore, you can very clearly see those are cities.

Didn't Ken Johnston claim to have seen movie film showing a lit dome inside Tsiolkovskiy Crater?

AS08-12-2189 showing Humboldt crater and as you can see number of lakes inside it.

Few of the earliest photos of the lake, probably Lunar Orbiter 1

Journal of Borderland Research Vol. 25 No. 05, 1969.

This is a high resolution scan

i.imgur.com...

"The centers of some of the craters glow. They just glow in the very dim light", stated astronaut Cernan.

"He said the cloud spread out to cover an area of more than 10 square miles"

This would be impossible without an atmosphere and stronger gravity.

I can’t help but wonder if H. G. Wells himself may have been to the Moon and created his main characters for his book, The First Men In The Moon (1901) in order to tell of his actual experience through his Science Fiction Fantasy writing.

Many elements are told….his character’s go to the moon in plain clothing, once on and in the moon they discover it has oxygen, it has plant life, it has water and inhabitants living undercover.

Perhaps it’s his story that’s taken and revised, re-versioned, retold and adapter to be spun and presented as facts by others.

I encourage anyone to read the book….. at least, at a minimum, read short chapters 7, pg. 41 through and including chapter 10.

Perhaps you’ll tell yourself…..now where have I read (heard) that before in much more modern times?

Perhaps H. G. Wells actually went to the moon…… Perhaps, Vladimir Terziski is fan of H. G. Wells works, as well as others.

I suppose H. G. Wells could have been a Remote Viewer.

The First Men In The Moon

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Official (death) vs Unofficial (life)