The continued and blatant disregard of natural immunity is insanity

It's absolute insanity to push forward with vaccines while STILL ignoring natural immunity after 2 years. The CDC recently estimated 150 million Americans have natural immunity which is shown to be far superior to vaccine immunity in numerous studies. Infact there are over 140 published studies now.

The CDC recognizes natural immunity for nearly every single virus. And yet, were still playing this game that puts the "vaccinated" against the "unvaccinated" while ignoring everything else. Not only do we ignore natural immunity, but also front line treatments, and the harm the vaccine has caused. It really is a mass psychosis.

The strange neglect of natural immunity isn't strange, its simply nefarious intent. Most of us know why it's being done, but getting the sleeping masses to wake up seems to be nearly impossible.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

It’s crazy.

Not only natural immunity due to having had Covid is being downplayed but also maintaining a strong immune system in general.

Eat well, sleep well, and think well.

Not a mention of a healthy lifestyle and diet. I have even heard the pundit MDs downplaying the benefit of diet, vitamins and minerals when it comes to Covid.

Two years in with minimal mask wearing, virtually no sanitizer for my hands, just washing as usual. Worked every day around a ton of staff and customers, close contact five times, and unvaccinated.

Same with my wife who worked 18 months in test centres.

No Covid as of yet. Not saying we are invincible to it but so far so good without living in fear.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

it's so blatant & criminal and yet most of my family members/friends don't see any issue with the huge push for vaccines and continue to demonize "anti-vaxxers" and also often incorrectly lump "Trump supporters" into the same group SMH mass psychosis is right!

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

It is strange mate .

My theory is this , Either it's all about Power and Money concerning the Vaccine , Simply put the more Jabs the more potential boosters and Money.

or

The Virus is "gain of function" in short it has been manipulated to by pass our bodies natural immune system and the only way we will not all die is to get a Vaccine .

How do all the imbeciles on Earth square it up that after millions of years, we suddenly need a manmade vaccine to start living with a virus?
What do all these people Think happened with the common cold?
To those that never lived with it, it can still be deadly. Remember the end of the film "War of the worlds?"
[for those that don't: the aliens die of the common cold]
How do people think this immunity came about?
Some mystical juju?
No, exposure and natural immunity.
Now a cold is a doddle for most humans in the western world.

You can't run away from a virus, you can only wait until it becomes harmless, like omicron now is, and then live with it.
No vaccine can help, especially not one that isn't a vaccine.
A proper vaccine makes the taker immune and it's success is not dependent on healthy people to also have a jab.

The whole thing is beyond ridiculous and absurd.

You speak about this as if the goal was to actually protect people. It never was. Political power and profit are what's at play here.

The US is unique in it's complete refusal to aknowlege the important role natural immunity and hybrid immunity play in play in reducing risk and combating the Covid pandemic.

The Dems and CDC have rightfully been slated for politicising the issue and ignoring the evidence in Scientific journals as they're more interested in partisan politics than public health science and have adopted the unscientific stance more antibodies = better protected Vaccinating people who have had covid-19: Why doesn't natural immunity count in the US

Every other country recognised it medically and legally and also recommended delaying getting vaccinated for up to nine months after getting infected to minimise side effects and prioritise vaccinations to those with no immunity.

The CDC have only recently started collating data about re-infection and using the correct methods and testing procedure to get an accurate picture of natural immunity levels in the US after months of being slated in highly respected journals as other countries have been doing this for over a year and have accurate pictures in how effective it is.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

The Military Industrial Complex yields to the Medical Industrial Complex. It's still the MIC, but instead of the enemy being scary brown people overseas, now EVERYONE has become the enemy and only mass entry into global real time tracking databases grants you the privilege of freedom. The cabal wants to be able to speak to a computer and say "where is wsc, or virtu0s0 right this moment." "They are currently in a bush on your property" .

It's about making sure nobody can sneak up on them, and they can track down and quietly black bag dissenters while claiming they are a danger to all life on the planet so all the sheep scared of their own shadows will not question the actions of tyrants.

a reply to: bastion

And believe it or not, when brought up by those of us here in America, the bootlickers tried to reason away why this was so.

I'd hate to put folks on the spot, but with some very easy to find searches, there they are.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I agree that disregarding natural immunity is insanity but natural immunity is not "far superior" to vaccine immunity because natural immunity, just like Vaccine aquired immunity, runs the risk of an incomplete or weak immunity response after the first exposure.

Whether you get a booster after Vaccination or after Infection it helps insure your immunity is more complete. The more you keep reintroducing a virus the more your body learns to fight it. But who wants to keep getting sick in the hopes they finally are able to have a complete immune response?

Research does show that ideally the best and most lasting immune response is from those who had Covid and then also got the Vaccine.

Waiting for Zombie and his sources to come shine some "actual data and science" on this.

Stop pretending that this 'vaccine' contains the virus, it doesn't. It codes your RNA to PRODUCE spike proteins that then run freely through your body. Worst still, your body only learns to produce these proteins, it doesn't tell it when to stop....

So, no, a booster won't make your immunity 'complete' it will compound the already massive problem of, inevitable, vaccine enhanced strains.

Coding RNA to produce spike proteins is NOT the same as fighting off the virus, not even close, and for you to claim that it is, is dangerous and makes me seriously question your motives....


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Medical interventions designed to replicate natural immunity will always be inferior. Our bodies are amazing, we can deal the death blow to any puny virus and so creating hostile environments to any infection that wants to proliferate.

20 months now since I 'recovered' from all the published symptoms of the virus that has yet to be isolated for lab work. I therefore have few infantry antibodies and plenty of the real bruisers, fighter and t-cells and anti SARS2 corpuscles ready to kill any suicidal SARS type bug thing dead.

a reply to: Joneselius

If it weren't for those pesky kids...

Darn you caught me; I've been on ATS for 15 years just waiting to spring the mRNA lies on everyone.

I'm well aware how the mRNA Virus works. You - not so much.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

150 million immune is too high.

a reply to: teapot

Possibly you do, but if you haven't had a complete study to look at your B cells and T cells them you will never know until you get infected again.

It may be true that vaccine immunity is never as good as the good old fashioned getting sick, the issue is you had to get sick first to gain the natural immunity and not everyone comes out the other side unscathed with perfect immunity.

originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I agree that disregarding natural immunity is insanity but natural immunity is not "far superior" to vaccine immunity because natural immunity, just like Vaccine aquired immunity, runs the risk of an incomplete or weak immunity response after the first exposure.

Whether you get a booster after Vaccination or after Infection it helps insure your immunity is more complete. The more you keep reintroducing a virus the more your body learns to fight it. But who wants to keep getting sick in the hopes they finally are able to have a complete immune response?

Research does show that ideally the best and most lasting immune response is from those who had Covid and then also got the Vaccine.

I have heard this new "theory" from a few sources, except this new "theory" was just proposed after people saw not everyone was getting the quite profitable new Covid jabs.

Nice agenda driven theory. The only real problem with it is that it is completely BOGUS. It's never been applicable in human history before with other diseases that have vaccines in the 20th century.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Nope has never been about natural immunity, is all about testing new technology, what I see happening is how this scientist are going to destroy the natural immunity of humans in the pursue of selling them in an injection.

Walter Reed military scientists testing vaccine that could protect against Omicron, future COVID variants

Look at how now the military is looking for ways to get into the bandwagon of nanoparticle technologies all targeting the human cells, from DNA manipulation now nano particles is like the goal is to destroy the human cells.

www.msn.com... AS2sTn?ocid=msedgntp

I always said that we humans will be the ones to destroy our own species.

Why no old fashion real vaccines, I tell you why not, because you can not cure the common cold.

originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: v1rtu0s0


Research does show that ideally the best and most lasting immune response is from those who had Covid and then also got the Vaccine.

Where does this leave those of us that neither had the Covid or the vaccine?

Many of us have been exposed to both the vaccinated and unvaccinated that are sick with Covid but haven’t contracted it.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Everyone should do what they can to get infected with/by Omicron if they have not been infected yet.

Hospitalizations are few, and deaths are almost non-existent amongst reasonably healthy people (as always).

Best Vaccine Around: www.cdc.gov...

Good luck with catching the Omicron bug!

After that, you are FREE!