David Ike at a freedom rally.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: anonentity
As a person who can predict the way things were panning out, David Ike seems to have written the book thirty years ago, and what he has been warning about is playing out before our eyes. After all the small independent businesses are gone, during the next lockdowns, most will be state-dependent, and if you want to eat and feed your family you will have to toe the line, or simply starve. At the freedom rally on the Isle of Wight, he gives a good speech on the way it will all pan out if we don't do anything to stop it. www.bitchute.com...

Ike didn't predict the pandemic, he merely parotted warnings that mainstream science has been giving since the 1970s.

The whole reason that there was even a virology lab in wuhan was because scientists thought that a pandemic might start there.

WADR buuuuullsheet, the lab is in Wuhan to be away from prying eyes and nobody in America would want this in their city, town, or neighborhood. China has no qualms and they plop in down in a city, so now we are at was it an accident? or part of an experiment gone wrong? who knows but it wasn't there because it was thought a pandemic would start there. It's there because the NIH can fund crap like letting sand fleas eat on beagles unprotected faces.

The lab wasn't away from prying eyes, it was in a built up area and they advertised it because they were proud that it was there.

The money that they received was public knowledge because it went through normal channels.

The lab was there because the area was at risk of a coronavirus outbreak.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: AaarghZombies

He has and claimed if they were innocent they would sue him, but they never do I wonder why?

Link, please.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

I lived in Miami prior to that. Boat people ..coming into everywhere.

It was a humanitarian nightmare.

Boat people. Million dollar mansions, hotels, resorts...and the refugees...

originally posted by: Granitebones

originally posted by: St Udio

originally posted by: Granitebones
As the years have gone on My respect for David Icke has increased. I still draw the line at the blood drinking alien lizard thing, but a lot of what he posited has come to pass.
The fact that he said a long time back that there are high level child abuse rings that involve politicians, celebrities, high ranking police and military etc was proved to be uncannily accurate.
a reply to: anonentity

i agree with your post...


but ADD

he never told about the 25% oof Vatican church clergy and priests/ monks/ abbots being either gay or pedophiles or both...but i did... way back in pre-Y2K

The term Predatory Homosexuals is the most accurate in the cases you refer to.

Being that these vile excuses for human beings purport to be religious, you'd think they would know theres a special reserved for them in Hell.

a reply to: andy06shake

Don't they need money like we all do? And what's wrong with being successful? Why attack people who expose gross atrocities instead of those committing them? If someone breaks up a fight, I don't then start criticizing him for just acting the hero to make himself look good. Give credit where credit is earned.

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

Tell me again how many kids those two have personally saved?

Nothing wrong with being successful.

Plenty wrong with punting lies and hyperbole, presenting it as fact, to satisfy their own agenda.

Plenty wrong with denying the likes of the Sandy hook incident also.

Science is not My Ickes friend you see nor history for that matter.

Anyhoo good luck with all those ""Truth Vibrations"".

a reply to: andy06shake

Why are you so cold and uncaring? What does it matter if they saved a handful or a great many? They helped to inform the public, to raise awareness so something was done about gross child abuse. Why are you incapable of admitting that is a good thing? I find that bizarre.

Name me a news source that has never gotten info wrong or exaggerated something? I'll hold my breath. Alex Jones and David Icke were right about far more than they were wrong about. If you wish to attach dishonesty to their character, then present a case with evidence to support it. Otherwise you're just throwing bogus claims around. Talk is cheap.

I never claimed David Icke was a heavy science guy. I said he has been proven right about many things. If you can't prove me wrong about that, then either admit it or move on. Playing semantics is so boring.

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

They two have not saved anything but pennies in their bank account.

Not a handful of kids, or a great many, but none, at all.

As to "cold and uncaring" would you prefer we just tar and feather the pair of them and run them out of town?

Because that's what we do to snake-oil salesmen.

Your ""prophets"" are nothing more than modern day charlatans LoneCloudHopper2.

As i have already pointed out Alex Jones is a Sandy Hook denier who's conspiracy theories have resulted in real world acts of violence and harassment.

And as to Mr Icke well their is the lizard stuff and 5G nonsense, and the fellow did claim to be the son of God at one point.

Hence my ambivalence to believe or entertain there QAnonsence.

Believing nonsense from fruit loops because you choose to without actual facts and evidence to support such is counterproductive at best neverminded boring.

You see "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" and those two have squat.

a reply to: andy06shake

Your opening statement is a complete lie. Because they spoke out about child abuse which wasn't being investigated, they at the very least contributed to its exposure. Why lie about it? Do you dislike them for exposing child abuse and just don't have the guts to admit it? You're not making sense here.

Again, calling them frauds is meaningless name calling. And who is "we" who "tar and feather"? Hmmm?

Everyone knows about Sandy Hook. I already said every news source makes mistakes. I asked if you had any case that he is the fraud you are claiming him to be. So far, all you have is one mistake and some name calling. Not impressed.

Yes, David Icke had made some weird claims of which he was most likely wrong. What's harder to prove with that stuff is intent. Did he intentionally try to deceive people, or does he really believe this stuff? A number of people who've known him say he really does believe it. But none of this debunks my statement that he was right about many things. You keep grasping at straws as to argue with me rather than addressing my statements. I'm not interested in pointless back and forth. If you have no real argument, then this is a waste of your time and mine.

What does QAnon have to do with anything? Are you being dishonest again or are you grossly uniformed on the two individuals you are trying to criticize? Alex Jones has spoken boldly out against QAnon several times. During Jan 6 when the riot/walk in of the Capitol happened, he yelled at people not to go along with it. David Icke has also spoken against them. So are you relieved to know they oppose QAnon? I suspect you don't care. Tell me I'm wrong.

Again, name calling and cheap claims. I said both Alex Jones and David Icke were right about many things and you've presented zero arguments against this statement or against the evidence I have provided. How old are you anyway? It's childish to just call names and smear people without presenting a logical argument. It seems to me you're just trying to score points for a political side, with no interest in truth or evidence.

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

So no kids then after all imagine that.

What political side im i trying to score points for pray-tell?

As to truth and evidence that's not what those two are shovelling.

And if you fail to see the similarities between the nonsense Qanonanuts are punting and the crap David Icke comes away with i suggest you read more of his books.

As to Jones, is he not buried up to his neck in all this January 6th Riot nonsense?

To my knowledge Jones has been subpoenaed via the "Capitol Riot Committee".

a reply to: andy06shake

Sure, you may just be a troll. Whatever, dude. Keep on projecting.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: anonentity
As a person who can predict the way things were panning out, David Ike seems to have written the book thirty years ago, and what he has been warning about is playing out before our eyes. After all the small independent businesses are gone, during the next lockdowns, most will be state-dependent, and if you want to eat and feed your family you will have to toe the line, or simply starve. At the freedom rally on the Isle of Wight, he gives a good speech on the way it will all pan out if we don't do anything to stop it. www.bitchute.com...

Ike didn't predict the pandemic, he merely parotted warnings that mainstream science has been giving since the 1970s.

The whole reason that there was even a virology lab in wuhan was because scientists thought that a pandemic might start there.

WADR buuuuullsheet, the lab is in Wuhan to be away from prying eyes and nobody in America would want this in their city, town, or neighborhood. China has no qualms and they plop in down in a city, so now we are at was it an accident? or part of an experiment gone wrong? who knows but it wasn't there because it was thought a pandemic would start there. It's there because the NIH can fund crap like letting sand fleas eat on beagles unprotected faces.

The lab wasn't away from prying eyes, it was in a built up area and they advertised it because they were proud that it was there.

The money that they received was public knowledge because it went through normal channels.

The lab was there because the area was at risk of a coronavirus outbreak.

Perhaps you are correct China is well known for its most excellent treatment of those that would question the regime.

Normal channels where did I say Fauci handed to them in a paper bag? it's that hide in plain sight. But mostly just because a bunch of like-minded CDC and NIH know how to funnel through normal channels doesn't mean it's above suspicion or scrutiny. Hell even most of the left admits now sheepishly it originated at the lab, that alone warrants discussion and investigation all aspects of our associations with the lab in Wuhan.

Not to mention got any links previous to 2020 that state that was the purpose? not to mention I could easily see China agreeing for Wuhan to be a location and being handsomely rewarded financially for doing so.

Not to mention the article below supports some of your theories and Mine as well, can't find any indications prior to 2020 that this was why the Wuhan lab was upgraded, perhaps it was done because out the over 35 level 4 labs it was the only one in China Why build a new one when upgrading the current one would do. FWIW they did say the lab was built in Wuhan after the concerns of the previous SARS episode, not exactly because they thought it would be where it would start as much as public sentiment was behind it after the SARS episodes.

Wuhan Institute of Virology already hosts a BSL-3 laboratory. A distinct BSL-4 facility is currently being built based on P4 standards, the original technology for confinement developed by France. It will be the first at level 4 in China, under the direction of Shi Zhengli.

Published: 23 February 2017
Inside the Chinese lab poised to study world's most dangerous pathogens

BSL-4 is the highest level of biocontainment: its criteria include filtering air and treating water and waste before they leave the laboratory, and stipulating that researchers change clothes and shower before and after using lab facilities. Such labs are often controversial. The first BSL-4 lab in Japan was built in 1981, but operated with lower-risk pathogens until 2015, when safety concerns were finally overcome.

The expansion of BSL-4-lab networks in the United States and Europe over the past 15 years — with more than a dozen now in operation or under construction in each region — also met with resistance, including questions about the need for so many facilities.

“ Viruses don’t know borders. ”

The Wuhan lab cost 300 million yuan (US$44 million), and to allay safety concerns it was built far above the flood plain and with the capacity to withstand a magnitude-7 earthquake, although the area has no history of strong earthquakes. It will focus on the control of emerging diseases, store purified viruses and act as a World Health Organization ‘reference laboratory’ linked to similar labs around the world. “It will be a key node in the global biosafety-lab network,” says lab director Yuan Zhiming.

The Chinese Academy of Sciences approved the construction of a BSL-4 laboratory in 2003, and the epidemic of SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) around the same time lent the project momentum. The lab was designed and constructed with French assistance as part of a 2004 cooperative agreement on the prevention and control of emerging infectious diseases. But the complexity of the project, China’s lack of experience, difficulty in maintaining funding and long government approval procedures meant that construction wasn’t finished until the end of 2014.

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

I'm pretty "sure" what those two are all about.

Presenting the fact of the matter is hardly trolling.

You have been here since 2012 should understand that just fine.

If you wish to place your faith in the likes of those two or associate them with being modern day ""Prophets"" thats your own lookout.

Most people can see them for what they are full of, and its something you wipe off the bottom of your shoe.

Have a nice day.

originally posted by: Granitebones
I sometimes wonder if the outrageous stuff is actually a very clever way of getting other information out there. By promoting the more extreme he has the advantage of the establishment believing that everyone will think hes a lunatic and no one will give anything he says any credibility.
a reply to: ARM1968

Nah, it's a marketing thing. He makes his money by getting attention. A certain section of his niche market loves hearing about what you call "the outrageous stuff". Otherwise, it gets too boring and he loses the attention of those who want to hear the more exciting intriguing exotic and extreme stuff. It's conspiracy entertainment.

Reptillian overlords is a lot more intriguing to hear about for some people than merely some greedy rich people (elite). It's also more Sci-Fi (for those into that sort of thing, see the amount of comments on the aliens&UFO's forum in comparison to other forums here, it's a big market within the conspiracy entertainment market).