Clown Time Why are they telling people to get Vax’d for Omni?

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: putnam6


This will end up in the Supreme Court more than likely will it not?

Yes, however so far they have heard the cases quickly, and
have handed down rulings on the wrong side of liberty.

They have denied religious exemptions in all previous
cases, which is a new left bent for the SCOTUS.

I suspect that if a Muslim or Luciferian had an issue they would approve of Religious Exemptions. But any traditional religion other than Muslim and they will be acting just like the leftist we had been warned were taking over slowly but surely back during the McCarthy days.

a reply to: Justoneman

I think your right about that, I just read there is new
legislation about just that thing you mentioned.

But other than that, its pffft to us.

As I said in another thread, the 6th circuit ruling;
2 people handing down a sentence to 80 million
Americans. I can't see my way to have faith in ACB
and Kavanaugh. I am not sure what comes next,
but I can say with all certainty that it is not going
to be bipartisan.

Something.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: bastion

Why are you comparing the mRNA shot to vaccines?

It's new tech and this is the only bar to measure it against as older vaccines are a completely different animal.

I was adressing the widespread claim that they're not vaccines which is false and based on misinfo and misunderstanding of vaccination and ignorance that 'protective immunity has been the definition for decades.

People can understandably have reservations about newer tech (though the reality is mRNA has been studied for several decades) and that should be respected - but that's no reason to make stuff up about the vaccines.

Am I still an asshole for calling out all the bull# since the beginning?

Throw off the shackles of control.

When you set aside your fears and opinions and you look at what is happening with an open mind, that is when you will see the tendrils of power and control being used behind the Covid pandemic.

The amount of effort and control being used would make someone think people are dying by the millions daily.

They found a way to control us. There will be no amount of “give back” for that control. We are being duped. We know it but are allowing it to happen.

By all means, you don’t have to believe anything I am saying. You can stand proud behind what you believe. When they take control of all facets of your life through the continued Covid agenda, when the last piece of freedom is taken from you, remember you were proud to believe in it.

Children didn’t need Vaxxed. Now they do.
Get vaxxed or lose your job.
Proof of vax or you possibly can’t shop or eat.
Vaccine is less effective now.
Vaxxed can be infected and pass it.
No acknowledgment of the superior ability of you bodies abilities to kill it off.
Alternate medicines condemned.
Erosion of parental rights
Crime waves being supported
Lack of engagement to get back to work
Inflation on the rise from printing to much money

….all connected to the over reach for power since Covid showed up.

originally posted by: AutomateThis1v2
Am I still an asshole for calling out all the bull# since the beginning?

We agree with your right to call BS. We may not agree with each and every one you feel are BS, but we agree you are correct in saying how ever it is you see it. Truthful people learn other truths and I sometimes will see I was wrong because I was brave enough to express my thoughts with others who give me reason to ponder all aspects of the truth.


The clown factor we have here is more sinister than a rodeo clown or a clown trying to make people laugh and maybe we should use an adjective or two with that noun clown of a new word.
Clown Creepies
Creepy Clown Freakshow
Creepy Clown People
New words like this might work
Frankenclowns ; Fraudciclowns

Those innocent clowns deserve better.

a reply to: network dude

If you have the vaccine, but do get sick, you will be much less sick, than if you didn't have the vaccine.

The truth is, they don't even know THAT for sure. Everybody has the individual ability to react differently to every situation.

In the meanwhile, we've got a member right here on ATS who's had Covid 4 times now; twice before vaccination and twice afterwards. According to them, their symptoms haven't been any less from the vaccination than they were before the vaccination.

Until a study is done on people who have been infected more than once, they're never going to know this.

originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: bastion

Why are you comparing the mRNA shot to vaccines?

It's new tech and this is the only bar to measure it against as older vaccines are a completely different animal.

I was adressing the widespread claim that they're not vaccines which is false and based on misinfo and misunderstanding of vaccination and ignorance that 'protective immunity has been the definition for decades.

People can understandably have reservations about newer tech (though the reality is mRNA has been studied for several decades) and that should be respected - but that's no reason to make stuff up about the vaccines.

did the definition of "Vaccine" change during covid?

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Welcome to this weeks Clown World episode.

Every other story is about Omni, especially in big cities like NY, it’s exploding. Everyone keeps saying
Get vaccinated, and if you are vaccinated get boosted…

But then this………….

www.reuters.com...

GENEVA, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Preliminary evidence indicates that COVID-19 vaccines may be less effective against infection and transmission linked to the Omicron coronavirus variant, which also carries a higher risk of reinfection, the World Health Organization said on Wednesday.

The WHO, in its weekly epidemiological update, said that more data was needed to better understand the extent to which Omicron may evade immunity derived from either vaccines or previous infection.

So riddle me this…if the vaccines don’t work against this strain, what are we vaccinating for?

We hope that is you get 4 shots you may have upwards of 70% reduced risk of infection for 3 weeks. Lol.

originally posted by: canucks555
If you're vaxxed then there's a better chance that your ass won't end up in the hospital.
Thought this was obvious by now.

This is utter and total bull#.

Thought that was obvious by now.

a reply to: canucks555

You know the vast majority of people ending up in the hospital now are all vaxxed,despite what that box in your living room tells you.

Cardiac wards in NB have been full of vaccinated patients for over a month.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: bastion

Why are you comparing the mRNA shot to vaccines?

It's new tech and this is the only bar to measure it against as older vaccines are a completely different animal.

I was adressing the widespread claim that they're not vaccines which is false and based on misinfo and misunderstanding of vaccination and ignorance that 'protective immunity has been the definition for decades.

People can understandably have reservations about newer tech (though the reality is mRNA has been studied for several decades) and that should be respected - but that's no reason to make stuff up about the vaccines.

did the definition of "Vaccine" change during covid?

No. As stated earlier it remained the same - the claim it changed is a myth based on a US dictionary changing their definition - the scientific definition never changed as the papers I posted from 1980s and 2008 show.

The claim it changed is based on ignorance of how vaccines work and how the vast majority of vaccines cause protective immunity and only a couple cause sterlised immunity.

People just recite the claim it changed from a facebook false claim instead of actually looking up the reality or scientific definitions.

If people choose not to have the vaccine I completely respect and support their right to do so - however I don't support making stuff up and abusing science and maths to fit either side of the argument.

My personal opinion is using these false claims debases the legitimate concerns about the vaccine and makes it look like the people opposed to it don't know what they're talking about - there's plenty of legitimate arguments and concerns to use rather than fake, unscientific claims based on people regurgitating false info instead of looking into it's validity.


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On topic: Variants like Omicron only show how dumb mandates are, it has an evolutionary leap that bypasses the memory of vaccination and natural immunity but doesn't evade other induced immunity such as t cells from vaccine or natural immunity.

A virus and pandemic is a dynamic system, it evolves and spread dynamically - using a static approach such as mandates is completely illogical and doesn't reflect the reality. While the vaccine was based on a more stable arm that is more resistant to evolution, a virus will evolve the way it evolves - there's no guarantee a strain wont emerge that renders the vaccine induced immunity 0% protection, but natural immunity has a hypothetical 100% immunity.

The data simply isn't in yet for efficay but Omicron came from someone with a comprimised immune system and has a lot of evolutionary leaps that were not expected to happen and bypasses a significant portion of the protection current vaccines induce - it'll take at least six weeks for real data from hospitalisations, deaths etc...to come in.

In the meantime all the statements and analysis is just guesswork and ballpark estimates; they're based on reasonable and logical assumptions but it's nowhere near the standard of evidence, data and scientific investigation that would justify the push for boosters we're getting here in the UK.

a reply to: JAGStorm

At best it’s because there’s billions of $ to be won or lost via vaccines. At worst the megalomaniacs are saving the planet by killing the humans.

But I agree, there’s a red flag gap in the logic. If the aim is truly to save lives and avoid long term economic strife, then they should be implementing containment measures as quickly and as urgently as they push the vaccines. It’s not an either or situation. Both vaccines and containment would be employed simultaneously with equal force if the narrative they use to flog us the vaccines was true. It doesn’t add up!

Then again there’s a third option: We’re governed by fvcking idiots who couldn’t find their own r’soles with a guide book.

a reply to: JAGStorm

'they' are building the skeleton framework, for a Protein, whiich will compromise every person who submits to the vaxx & booster (which are the actual blueprints/ instructions to generate a 'elemental' or sub-life-form (Golem) within a persons immune system)

there is your daily dose of doom-porn... chuckle if you dare

a reply to: St Udio

Covid RNA base pair sequence is exactly the same as Chromosone 8

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: St Udio

Covid RNA base pair sequence is exactly the same as Chromosone 8

tell me more


btw, a sequence is often repeated

a reply to: St Udio

CTCCCTTTGTTGTGTTGT is an 18 character primer sequence found in the WHO Coronavirus virus testing protocol document the primer sequences are what get amplified by the PCR process in order to be detected and designated a 'positive test'.It just so happens this same exact 18 character sequence is also found in Homo Sapiens Chromosone 8.I dont know why the only conclusion I can definately make is that they can find a 'positive' result in anyone they want.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Welcome to this weeks Clown World episode.

Every other story is about Omni, especially in big cities like NY, it’s exploding. Everyone keeps saying
Get vaccinated, and if you are vaccinated get boosted…

But then this………….

www.reuters.com...

So riddle me this…if the vaccines don’t work against this strain, what are we vaccinating for?

Death, they are for death. Creating it, not preventing it. The PTB have been publishing the memo's on this since at least the 80's. Hell, I remember reading a CIA generated plan from 1964 (in 1981, 17 years after it was written) outlining the UN, population reduction, herding what's left into cities and North America being a single "zone" under a one world technocratic government run by facists. From 1964!!!

Cheers - Dave