The Camels are on the Horizon

I had never heard this and am not even sure it is truthful but I thought it was worth sharing and pondering....
From an Email:

The Camels are on the Horizon

The founder of Dubai, Sheik Rashid, was asked about the future of his country, and he replied, "My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I ride a Mercedes, my son rides a Land Rover, and my grandson is going to ride a Land Rover…but my great-grandson is going to have to ride a camel again. “Why is that, he was asked? His reply was, “Hard times create strong men, strong men create easy times. Easy times create weak men, weak men create difficult times.

Many will not understand it, but you have to raise warriors, not parasites." And add to that the historical reality that all great empires...the Persians, the Trojans, the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Romans, and in later years, the British...all rose and perished within 240 years.

They were not conquered by external enemies; they rotted from within.

America has now passed that 240 year mark, and the rot is starting to be visible and is accelerating. We are past the Mercedes and Land Rover Years….the camels are on the horizon.

The greatest generation consisted of 18 year old kids storming the beaches at Normandy. And now, two generations later, some 18-year-old kids want to hide in safe rooms when they hear words that hurt their feelings. They also want free stuff from the government because they think they are entitled to it.

The "camels are on the horizon" for sure.

a reply to: 727Sky
Oh my goodness! Ain't that the truth!
Love it.
Thank you for posting.
Rainbows
Jane
PS I wonder if this was an inspiration for The Second Sleep by Robert Harris released in September 2019?

a reply to: 727Sky

The ROT begins at the top of society.

The richest take there corporations and jobs to tax havens outside there nation, corporations take control of the government through bureaucratic corruption and incompetence, vested interests that do not have the future of a nation or it's people at heart syphon the best a nation has into there own bank account's.

The Romans did it through the corruption of there own leadership and the growing power of there provinces which led to Rome becoming irrelevant before the Visigoth's sacked it, the empire had even split in a Roman form of Secession into the eastern and western Empires, the Eastern continued for another thousand years after Rome itself was sacked it's capital being Constantinople.

Hard times do not breed hard people they breed desperate people, they breed inequality with growing division between the rich and the poor, the rich are the ones that think they are entitled and the poor are ever more poor.

The British Empire was largely an administrative rather than a military empire and along with the French empire it dissolved but never fell, it dissolved because that is what the US wanted and we were flat broke after the lend lease which we had to pay back to the US, this excess money in the US economy then drove the US economic boom of the 50's and 60's which drove up prices of goods as people had more money to spend and in a barter system were supply and demand dictate prices the result was that wages had to go up to keep pace.

In the US AND the rest of the west this led to greed and corruption that eventually took over our government's.

Subsidies to company's were scrapped by corrupt politicians in many western nations because the US had demanded them to do so under the old argument that they were anti competitive and harmed US exports to those nations, trade tariffs were dictated and negotiated, often a one sided negotiation and those that refused to harm there nations by scrapping subsidies to there company's found that the US and others slapped huge import duties on them - to level up the playing field and since the US was the biggest market back then that was a big deal.

Even though they already pulled the strings the world bankers got even more powerful, governments got even weaker and the people in job's refused to accept pay cuts because the price of goods in there economy's were still rising, this led to several recessions all avoidable and all due to corruption and bad leadership.

Eventually in the aim of scrapping borders for business most right wing and even some left wing governments scrapped or reduced to almost nothing tariff's on imports as well as whatever subsidies they still had for there own business, this left the only option for some of them to partially renationalise publicly and nationally important business that could not compete and to then run them at a loss to the tax payer, this happened more in other nations and I have no knowledge of the US ever doing so.

From the 1970's onward Job's bled to the Asian job sector, there was at that time not really much of an economy to exploit over there so the corporate elite built one, the Communists of China whom had eaten there own people during the cultural revolution were quick to catch on to the fact that they could use there enslaved population as slave labour and modernise there nation off the back of greedy westerners with little or no sweat for themselves.

Industrial towns and city's in the west became jobless over night, city's that had been thriving since the 1800's were suddenly full of people with no way to pay there rent's, proud neighbourhoods became slum's, Drugs which had been a mild problem in the 1960's became an epidemic problem as people ran away from there bleak and HARD lives.

But those that have will always look at those that do not and see it different, it's called rose tinted spectacles over here.

The truth these ARE hard times.

And it was not easy times that made them, it was corruption and greed because some people can never have enough.

I used to see the analogy between the collapse of ancient Rome (which is a mostly fictional point of view) and the current decline of western society but in fact there are very few genuine parallels to draw upon.

Roman elite poisoned themselves using Lead to pipe there water, seal there jars, FLAVOUR there food and add colouring to it, they ended up with so much lead in there body's it caused imbecility, they were replaced by the colonial elite whom took over Rome with the disappearance of the patrician's, regional governor's lived like mini emperors and Rome was run on the back of a slave economy, even when Christianity became the dominant religion (Albeit a centralized and very different form of Christianity to what had existed up until then) of the empire Slavery continued, Rome was a SLAVE Based economy with up to 4 to 8 slaves for every free man in many regions, though after the revolution and near defeat of Rome by the slaves under Spartacus they had been given a few more rights such as the right to retire and a pension paid by there owners it did not go away even after the fall of Rome but continued in one form or another right up until the 1800's.

It was Christians whom quoted the bible, if you have two coats and your brother has non give unto him the one you are not using, the son of man has no place to lay his head, go sell all you own and come follow me, build up your treasure in heaven, the story of Ananias and Sapphira (Christian church as a Kibbutz style commune).

It was Christian reformists in the west that worked to give people right's and freedom, many died doing so.

The first WESTERN Socialism though Marx ideas had influence later began with these Christians and indeed the Christian take on socialism that had nothing to do with the ATHEIST and SECULARISTS versions that grew into the evil and corrupt state corporations that owned there own people we know of as twentieth century communism.

Here is another take on it, HARD TIMES DESTROY NATIONS, especially when they come on the back of easier times.

The Camels are indeed on the horizon but for different reasons than you think, growing power in militants hands, weakening western power and the looming threat of western and eastern powers weakening one another that will create a power void into which they will leap.

You want the truth, as long as the current political scum bags rule our nations, as long as our media is controlled by corporate tycoons and social engineering secret service agency's, as long as our opinion is not our own but someone else's that they have indoctrinated us into, as long as our food and water and air is laced to dumb us down and make us more pliable we will continue to decline.

It is not that we are weak it is that we are ASLEEP and think we are awake.

But by all means bring back the hard times, time when men were lucky to live into there 40's, when woman were lucky to survive there first child birth and in which most children died before they reached adulthood, strong people indeed.

Children working down mines at the age of four or younger with no education, running behind early industrial weaving machine and being killed on an almost daily basis to fix problems with those machines.

Those empire of old were cannibals that fed on there own people.

It is far more complex than you or I used to believe.

“Hard times create strong men, strong men create easy times. Easy times create weak men, weak men create difficult times. "

I believe it's called balance. Things can only go one way for so long, then it's inevitable that the scales reach a tipping point and it all swings back in the other direction. Often quickly.

Natural equilibrium.

a reply to: LABTECH767

Yes. It really wasn't very difficult for H.G. Wells to visualise his story of 'The Time Machine'. The food that the Morlocks discreetly left out for the Eloi to eat was more than likely spiked with some sort of narcotic to pacify them. The time traveller thought that mankind had finally banished warfare and predatory behaviour in the far away future. But the fact revealed itself - the predators had moved underground and were feeding on the more passive Eloi who lived on the surface.

The story is just a sci-fi projection of what has happened and what is still happening. As you say, the majority of people are asleep at the wheel and dreaming that they are awake.

as long as our opinion is not our own but someone else's that they have indoctrinated us into, as long as our food and water and air is laced to dumb us down and make us more pliable we will continue to decline.

That statement is so true.
Something is wrong, just watch how stupid TV is these days.

Dumbass Feminism will be the rot that destroys America and the West.

originally posted by: Granitebones
Dumbass Feminism will be the rot that destroys America and the West.

Not feminism - victim ideology. The idea that because you breathe, you deserve, and if you don't have where others do, you are owed because they took it from you.

Not to disagree but you've outlined the exact feminist mindset.
a reply to: ketsuko

originally posted by: Granitebones
Not to disagree but you've outlined the exact feminist mindset.
a reply to: ketsuko

Yes, but it's not unique to feminism, so it's not a uniquely feminist mindset and thus wrong to blame them. It's a mindset that exists all throughout society everywhere. People have forgotten that they are largely responsible for their own circumstances.

If someone else has and you don't, it might largely be because of your own choices in life and not because they kept you from having.

I might suggest that a society of victims is easy to rule because they're always looking to those with power to even the score for them because a victim can't ever take power into his or her own hands against the oppressive other. So setting up society as competing groups at each others throats over perceived selfishness enables some of the worst power excesses in the name of "fixing" what's not broken and was always within their power to take for themselves.

That's why solutions never, ever seek to enable the group that needs, only to tear down the other group they blame for it.

originally posted by: HilterDayon
a reply to: LABTECH767

Yes. It really wasn't very difficult for H.G. Wells to visualise his story of 'The Time Machine'. The food that the Morlocks discreetly left out for the Eloi to eat was more than likely spiked with some sort of narcotic to pacify them. The time traveller thought that mankind had finally banished warfare and predatory behaviour in the far away future. But the fact revealed itself - the predators had moved underground and were feeding on the more passive Eloi who lived on the surface.

The story is just a sci-fi projection of what has happened and what is still happening. As you say, the majority of people are asleep at the wheel and dreaming that they are awake.

A very good analogy, I agree.

Another movie was the original first planet of the apes movie, a worker class of slaves overthrowing there masters and taking over the world while there masters are relegated to the slaves of the future.

But the time machine was definitely more realistic.

I would argue that the mindset you refer to had it's inception at the beginning of the runaway self-indulgence of the feminist movement. Specifically the "The fact that I want it means it's my birthright for it to come to me" mindset.
a reply to: ketsuko

a reply to: 727Sky


Ummm…well…that certainly begs the lie that there is anything resembling progress…in progressive ideology…

It also illustrates the exemplary…lack…of evolution…and enlightened reformation…claimed by Liberals…everywhere…forever…


It appears that anytime a society allows the liberal and the female…any role in governance…Therein is the seed of it’s own decay…

And the fault always lies in the lap of the conservative…and the devout…who refuse to cut off the feet of incrementalism…whenever it advances…


Kill the dichotomy within the construct…and never surrender to emotion based idealism…to the feminization of social interaction…


There is the white elephant…at the center of every fallen society…from ancient Greece…to present day…


In an observers…opinion…






YouSir

Naah, the reason his grandson will ride a camel is quite simple, not strong or weak just economics.
Dubai at the moment is riding the surf wave of opulence that their oil wells bring them. They a buying this, buying that, why host the October fest (that's a drinking binge to you and me if you don't know) when it's a no drinking country? Why buy into formula one series when they don't have any drivers? Why take over international football when the don't have any players or teams?
Oil money makes them big boys on the international stage, bbuuuttt, when that oil runs out or the world decides it don't want their oil (which might happen before their peak oil dilemma) they will revert back to the sandy obscurity they came from. THEN his grandson will have to ride a camel cos they wont have the money to buy a crap car never mind a Range Rover.

a reply to: ketsuko

That's a little simplistic.

I'm a firm believer in human rights that said to be realistic we have to approach rights and access with consideration. Do I deserve an Xbox X because someone else has one? No that's just stupid.

Do I have a right to access potable water, edible food and a dry shelter to rest my head? Yes, yes I do and so does everybody else. They also have the right to pursue such basic things to sustain life. However in most civilized nations there's laws against poaching, there's permits for hunting, laws against gathering rain water, building permits, health and safety concerns etc etc. Point being very few people on this planet have the ability to survive on their own without assistance and it's not because they're thick or useless eaters. It's because we cannot live naturally unimpeded.

It's been a while since the biggest man can take whatever he needs, there's rules to adhere to and after all everything is just borrowed anyways. We take nothing with us in the end.

Victims are rarely heard, the loud from this victim culture you ascribe to are usually just needy people sucking at the teat of civilization. Seems to me the majority of people are oppressed by the progression that is civilization... Great for the group though right?

a reply to: lakenheath24

Unicorns.

originally posted by: Granitebones
I would argue that the mindset you refer to had it's inception at the beginning of the runaway self-indulgence of the feminist movement. Specifically the "The fact that I want it means it's my birthright for it to come to me" mindset.
a reply to: ketsuko

No.

It began when people started to navel gaze too much and compassion became pathological.

a reply to: RAY1990

Do I have a right to access potable water, edible food and a dry shelter to rest my head? Yes, yes I do and so does everybody else.

No one has the right to expect anyone else to provide for them. You have the right to the things you provide for yourself through the means available.

If you ended up stranded alone, you have the right to everything you can produce unto yourself and nothing else, not even necessarily food, water, and shelter because those may not be possible for you to produce where you get stranded.

Too many things we've been told are "rights" really aren't.