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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
(again had to truncate title so I could post this.)
The lying mainstream media, and the liars factcheckers are claiming this is not true, even though we have the video of Fauci actually stating this.
Fauci Admits That Covid Vaccines May Actually Make People ‘Worse’: “It Would Not Be The First Time"
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: network dude
so he didn't say it?
He said it, but he wasn't talking about any vaccines available today. OP got this from a reddit thread yesterday in which OP got dragged for presenting that as something he said recently. It didn't work there, but you sll seem to be falling for it here.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
He said it, but he wasn't talking about any vaccines available today. OP got this from a reddit thread yesterday in which OP got dragged for presenting that as something he said recently. It didn't work there, but you sll seem to be falling for it here.
originally posted by: The2Billies
Actually, he didn't say it would make people worse.
originally posted by: The2Billies
He said vaccines would make the pandemic worse.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: carewemust
Thank you for that link.
BTW, the CDC has admitted that 79% of Omicron cases are among the FULLY vaccinated, and only 21% of Omicron cases have occurred to unvaccinated people...
By Joseph Curl • Dec 14, 2021
About eight out of 10 people who have caught the Omicron variant of COVID-19 were fully vaccinated, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
Just 20% of COVID-19 cases caused by the Omicron variant, based on an examination of diagnoses from December 1-8. There were 43 cases attributed to Omicron; 34 were among people who had been “fully vaccinated.” What’s more, one-third of the 34 had also received a third “booster” shot. Just one of those suffering from Omicron was briefly hospitalized.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, an immunologist and director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases who serves as President Joe Biden’s chief medical adviser on COVID-19, now says “the early data indicates that Omicron may not pose as great a risk of serious illness as the Delta variant, but stressed that further information is needed before he can definitively confirm that,” the Mail reported.
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CDC: Only 21% Of Omicron Cases Occurred In Unvaccinated People
Omicron Variant Found in More Vaccinated People in U.S. as Resistance Concerns Persist
So, it seems possible that the vaccines/boosters themselves caused the mutation of Omicron like French Nobel Peace Prize Luc Montagnier stated.
originally posted by: fencesitter85
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: carewemust
Thank you for that link.
BTW, the CDC has admitted that 79% of Omicron cases are among the FULLY vaccinated, and only 21% of Omicron cases have occurred to unvaccinated people...
By Joseph Curl • Dec 14, 2021
About eight out of 10 people who have caught the Omicron variant of COVID-19 were fully vaccinated, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
Just 20% of COVID-19 cases caused by the Omicron variant, based on an examination of diagnoses from December 1-8. There were 43 cases attributed to Omicron; 34 were among people who had been “fully vaccinated.” What’s more, one-third of the 34 had also received a third “booster” shot. Just one of those suffering from Omicron was briefly hospitalized.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, an immunologist and director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases who serves as President Joe Biden’s chief medical adviser on COVID-19, now says “the early data indicates that Omicron may not pose as great a risk of serious illness as the Delta variant, but stressed that further information is needed before he can definitively confirm that,” the Mail reported.
...
CDC: Only 21% Of Omicron Cases Occurred In Unvaccinated People
Omicron Variant Found in More Vaccinated People in U.S. as Resistance Concerns Persist
So, it seems possible that the vaccines/boosters themselves caused the mutation of Omicron like French Nobel Peace Prize Luc Montagnier stated.
What you people keep conveniently missing out with all this data, is that the majority of people are, vaccinated. In the UK, it's the overwhelming majority. So OBVIOUSLY there will be higher numbers of cases in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. It is not and does not claim to be a method of avoiding catching it; it minimises the harm if you do catch it.
Honestly it's laughable watching you people trying to have Eureka moments with widely published and understood data. Stick to YouTube videos.
Zuckerberg: “One of the questions I’ve heard from a number of people is: Doing the safety trials obviously is incredibly important because you want to make sure you’re not injecting people with something that could be harmful. But once you have that, why not push harder on rolling it out more aggressively, even if you don’t know how effective it is? What’s the public health rationale and thinking behind needing to prove it’s extremely effective before rolling out something that you know is safe?”
Fauci: “OK, That’s a good question. The initial safety study, Mark, is to see if I inject it in the arm, does it have some sort of idiosyncratic or bad reaction? There is another element to safety, and that is if you vaccinate someone and they make an antibody response, and then they get exposed and infected, does the response that you induce actually enhance the infection, and make it worse?
And the only way you’ll know that is if you do an extended study, not in a normal volunteer who has a risk of infection, but in people who are out there in a risk situation. This would not be the first time if it happened that a vaccine that looked good in initial safety actually made people worse.
There was the history of the respiratory syncytial vaccine in children, which paradoxically made the children worse. One of the HIV vaccines that we tested several years ago actually made individuals more likely to get infected. So you can’t just go out there and give it unless you feel that in the field, when someone is getting infected and exposed, being vaccinated doesn’t make them worse. That is why you got to do a trial.”
Zuckerberg: “One of the questions I’ve heard from a number of people is: Doing the safety trials obviously is incredibly important because you want to make sure you’re not injecting people with something that could be harmful. But once you have that..
originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: network dude
so he didn't say it?
He said it, but he wasn't talking about any vaccines available today. OP got this from a reddit thread yesterday in which OP got dragged for presenting that as something he said recently. It didn't work there, but you sll seem to be falling for it here.
So because he said it in the past, it isn't true?
Getting "dragged" (?!) on Reddit is IMO a badge of honor; you catch the most flak when you're directly over the target.
This looks to me like, based on when it was recorded, Fauci hedging his bets if "Project Warp Speed" ended up being catastrophic, i.e. it was the early days of the vaccination "program" and he wasn't sure which way this was going to go.
Now, after the other shoe has dropped, and after the politicians have seized on this is enact their digital passport programs, there's no way you'd hear Faucci utter anything of the sort, and if he let such a remark slip out, it'd be sanitized straight away.
originally posted by: fencesitter85
What you people keep conveniently missing out with all this data, is that the majority of people are, vaccinated. In the UK, it's the overwhelming majority. So OBVIOUSLY there will be higher numbers of cases in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. It is not and does not claim to be a method of avoiding catching it; it minimises the harm if you do catch it.
Honestly it's laughable watching you people trying to have Eureka moments with widely published and understood data. Stick to YouTube videos.
MARIA CHENG and FARAI MUTSAKA
November 19, 2021·6 min read
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“COVID-19 is gone, when did you last hear of anyone who has died of COVID-19?” Ndou said. “The mask is to protect my pocket,” he said. “The police demand bribes so I lose money if I don’t move around with a mask.” Earlier this week, Zimbabwe recorded just 33 new COVID-19 cases and zero deaths, in line with a recent fall in the disease across the continent, where World Health Organization data show that infections have been dropping since July.
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But there is something “mysterious” going on in Africa that is puzzling scientists, said Wafaa El-Sadr, chair of global health at Columbia University.
Africa doesn't have the vaccines and the resources to fight COVID-19 that they have in Europe and the U.S., but somehow they seem to be doing better," said Wafaa El-Sadr, head of global health at Columbia University.
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