Firearm laws moving while we are distracted.

Quick on the heels of the Oxford, Michigan school shooting. Gun grabbing politicians are on the move to restrict magazine capacity and more of firearms.

Senate Bills 785 and 786 and House Bills 5627 and 5628 would prohibit the sale and possession of firearm magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The bill would make selling or owning high-capacity magazines a misdemeanor.

When I debate someone who is in support of common sense gun reform etc, pointing the moronic nature of these types of laws is usually an easy win.

Some quick facts:
The shooter in MI used a handgun. When you buy a handgun, they typically come with a magazine or 2, sometimes 3 (Looking at you FN)! Now in some other heavily gun restricted states that already enact these anti 2A policies, there are compliant packaging. That is they come with magazines only meant to hold the appropriate number of rounds. Meaning, no real need to go and purchase more magazines.

The article goes on and only gets juicier:

Those who own firearms with high capacity magazines before Jan. 1, 2023 would need to report it to their local law enforcement agency in order to continue legal ownership of the gun.

Wait, now all the firearms I may own with higher capacity than 10 rounds would need to record it with local LEO's? Sounds like a gun registry? In Michigan, you are required to record your handgun purchases. With this law, every gun that has a 'high capacity' magazine will need to be registered in order to be legal. Even a weak imagination can see ways to circumvent this but that's not the point.

Bayer said that the timing of the legislation wasn’t directly tied to the shooting, but lawmakers can’t wait for the next incident.

....right. Lying POS.

“The end goal is the same: we want all of our kids to grow up healthy and safe,” Swindell said. “Guns are the second leading cause of death in children and teens in Michigan, these are the primary victims of gun violence... Children and teens are watching and listening and absorbing reaction to these tragedies.”

Could that be because before the victims bodies were cooled the media made sure we knew the name of the alleged assailant, his parents, home etc etc? Famous? Infamous?

Not to mention the living excrement that is politicians trying to further erode the 2A. However these same morons will never lead by example. The people they count on to protect are well armed and will continue to be.

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I guess I should go and buy another case of 30s.

a reply to: projectvxn

I wonder if these pieces of trash know that they are the greatest gun marketing objects in existence.

Maybe they do know and own stock. I'd like to find that out.

a reply to: JinMI

When California started restricting magazines to 8 rounds, I went and got extenders for all my 15 rnd mags.

Unfortunately, I lost all my firearms in jetski accident.

But I live in Texas now.

How do magazine capacity and other limits keep a would be mental case criminal from using more guns instead of more magazines ?🤫

a reply to: JinMI

Ummm does suck but I can switch pretty freaking fast. Especially my MCX Virtus.
10rounds easy is just fine for me.

originally posted by: xuenchen
How do magazine capacity and other limits keep a would be mental case criminal from using more guns instead of more magazines ?🤫

Very solid point.

originally posted by: xuenchen
How do magazine capacity and other limits keep a would be mental case criminal from using more guns instead of more magazines ?🤫

How do more laws keep criminals from breaking laws.....?


Circular logic that can't have an answer. So, in lieu, more laws which directly violate the 2nd amendment.

a reply to: JinMI

I think they're just trying to piss everyone off at once. I'm just not sure there's another goal.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: JinMI

I think they're just trying to piss everyone off at once. I'm just not sure there's another goal.

That would also be my guess.
I know I'm on that progressive side. But laws proposal like this just doesn't make sense.

My firearms haven’t moved nor will they until they come for me, all bets are off after that.

I'm so glad that I live in Idaho.

Yeah... the winters can be brutal... and wildfire seasons are even worse...

...however, this crap will NEVER fly in Idaho...

When they collapse our energy infrastructure, and ban fossil fuels... when they collapse our cities into violence... well, those of us with horses and firearms will still be here.

So, what will we do, when the socialist utopian dream fails?

We will do, what Americans have always done. We will take care of each other.

a reply to: JinMI

When ever one of these tragedies occurs and the anti-freedom gun-grabbers start in with these "laws" I always have to ask if the laws stated would have prevented the tragedy in the first place?

a reply to: DBCowboy

Indeed

In any instance was your response to your question, yes?

a reply to: JinMI

Not yet.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JinMI

When ever one of these tragedies occurs and the anti-freedom gun-grabbers start in with these "laws" I always have to ask if the laws stated would have prevented the tragedy in the first place?

No. They would not.

If the gun laws that are already on the books were actually enforced... things would be different.

a reply to: JinMI

The ruse is the language. Open mouth, enter bar of soap.

You see..

"High" capacity magazines are actually "COMMON" capacity magazines and have been that way for DECADES.

Don't let them fool ya.

What I'm seeing is a pattern of skirting the demographics as it pertains to this surge in killings.

Minority "communities" need to get their **** together.

There is not, and has never been, a surge in law abiding citizens killing each other.

However, there will definitely be a surge in law abiding citizens defending themselves if this 800,000 pound elephant in the room isn't addressed.

Willfully skirting the issue is condoning the issue.

Either way, get used to the numbers rising further because it's racist to say that this behavior on many levels is ENTIRELY cultural based, which it is.

My clips hold nine shells, and of course one in the cylinder It only takes a few seconds to put in a new clip and chamber it. I don't need more than twenty shells to bring down a bear with my D eagle. I don't ever want to shoot at anyone. One good thing about my eagle, a kid can't chamber it, in fact my wife can't even chamber it nor can my two daughters. Now a big seventeen year old boy could. I do have my two full clips with the gun, but the majority of my shells are locked up so I am not worried to much about a grandkid getting at them. Nothing is chambered in my gun, it only takes a few seconds for me to chamber it if needed, and kids cannot pull back the receiver....I bought the gun because I dod not want my kids to be able to have an accident with it.

I have been shooting a gun, BB guns at first, since I was six and my father was very strict about safety just like I am.

a reply to: rickymouse

I bought the gun because I dod not want my kids to be able to have an accident with it.

You've just given me all the justification I need to buy a desert eagle!


Thanks Ricky.

a reply to: xuenchen

They dont, I seem to remember a school shooting years ago at the university of texas where a guy got to a high point barricaded it and used multiple bolt action rifles, killed like 15 people.

Magazine size is just something to make people feel good about themselves for doing "something".