Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (VAIDS) right on schedule

a reply to: Dalamax

In my estimation your estimates are estimated to be correct at least sometimes.

Yes. Appropriately approximate

a reply to: Grenade

a reply to: 727Sky

The OP is false.

The statement attributed to "americasfrontierdoctors" says: "It [the Lancet study] showed that protection against symptomatic COVID-19 declined with time, such that by six months, some of the more vulnerable vaccinated groups were at greater risk than their unvaccinated peers."

Go read the abstract; it's fairly short.

papers.ssrn.com...

At no place in the abstract does it say or imply that "..some of the more vulnerable vaccinated groups were at greater risk than their unvaccinated peers."

Here's what it actually says.

"Vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic Covid-19 infection wanes progressively over time across all subgroups, but at different rate according to type of vaccine, and faster for men and older frail individuals. The effectiveness against severe illness seems to remain high through 9 months, although not for men, older frail individuals, and individuals with comorbidities. This strengthens the evidence-based rationale for administration of a third booster dose."

The bozos at "americasfrontierdoctors" are using a study published in a prestigious journal (the Lancet) which never says what they claim it says to try to strengthen their crackpot theory.

"americasfrontierdoctors" are just flat out lying.

originally posted by: carewemust
in reply to: rickymouse
Why the hell isn't former President Trump sounding the alarm?

This, combined with his involvement in creating these jabs, makes me more and more suspicious of him every day.

If he doesn't come out about this soon, there will be no doubt he is part of the plot - and I don't come to this conclusion easily.

originally posted by: Skyman65
a reply to: MetalThunder

Again IMHO, a lot of covid deaths are actually Septic pneumonia, caused by MRSA bacteria.

Half right - it was actually caused by the deadly drug called remdesivir, that Fauci was instrumental in getting its EUA (along with the EUAs for the experimental gene therapy jabs) by demonizing and lying about the well known usefulness and efficacy and safety of both HCQ and Ivermectin.

Fauci deserves the death penalty for what he has done.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
in reply to: 727Sky
That's not exactly what the original report said, is it?

I see you are incapable or unable to actually back that up...

Prove it. Show what it actually did say that you seem to by implying shows that it did not say what the OP's subject says it said...

a reply to: 1947boomer

The OP is false.

The statement attributed to "americasfrontierdoctors" says: "It [the Lancet study] showed that protection against symptomatic COVID-19 declined with time, such that by six months, some of the more vulnerable vaccinated groups were at greater risk than their unvaccinated peers."

That's not false. First of all, your statement about it waning in "men" was just one out of the 3 vaccines. If you open up the full document beyond the "Abstract", you'll see that one of the vaccines shows NO effectiveness after 7 months, which means that the more VULNERABLE vaccinated groups WOULD BE at a greater risk than their unvaccinated peers.

a reply to: Deetermined
Wouldn't that mean that after 7 months the more VULNERABLE vaccinated groups WOULD BE at the same risk as their unvaccinated peers?

The title of the thread is wrong because the study doesn't show any type of acquired immune deficiency.

a reply to: daskakik

In my opinion, the term "vulnerable" is used to describe someone who's probably over 60 with other conditions. Not everyone of their peers who would be in that age group has underlying conditions that would make them more vulnerable.

The title of the thread appears to match the article that makes the same quotes as the ones listed in the OP. I haven't noticed anything in what I've read so far that mentions the vaccine causing the autoimmune deficiency, but then again, I didn't read every word of every study linked to the article either.

I'll look up and link the article that's identical to the excerpts from the OP.

ETA: Here's a repeat of the same article...

Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (VAIDS)

stateofthenation.co...

a reply to: anonentity
My testimony (own experience)
On Sunday, December 5, on the occasion of Saint Nicholas, my family (with the children) gathered. We were ten adults fully vaccinated (mainly Pfizer) and 8 children under 7. Everyone had received their 2nd dose in July (so just over 4 months ago). Result: 9 covid infections. Most of them with a high viral load (PCR test). I now have covid too. It's no fun, like the flu. Just about everyone who is infected has had a high fever and severe symptoms. You could say it would have been much worse without a vaccine (you're always right that way). The fact is: the vaccines do not protect against infection and its transmission not at all. (The children were not tested)
Don't say: protection is waning after 4 months. NO: protection is GONE after 4 months (maybe less than 4 months)!!
Disgusting what is happening worldwide. Unbelievable.

a reply to: Deetermined
I'm not talking about all the studies, I'm talking about the one mentioned/linked in the article. They split groups up by age, sex and comorbidity, if I recall correctly, so their peers would be narrowed down to a tighter match.

Also, even if what you described was the case, that isn't showing any type of acquired immune deficiency.

a reply to: zandra

Don't say: protection is waning after 4 months. NO: protection is GONE after 4 months (maybe less than 4 months)!!
Disgusting what is happening worldwide. Unbelievable.

You're right. While some of these studies show waning immunity by 6 months, I've found three studies that show that they MAY (not even sure about that) be effective for only 2 - 3 months. In fact, when Pfizer went through trial studies on their booster shot, they were giving them out to people who had only been originally vaccinated 10 - 12 weeks earlier. So, they must have known that's when a booster probably was needed.

so we are playing "Syndrome of the Day" now to go with your soup de jour

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: rickymouse
These vaccines are not very good. They should have run longer testing on them before shoving them on the public. I am not anti-vax, but I am not happy with this one and the coverup of the side effects of the mRNA and other covid vaccines. You would think that with all the intelligent people working for the pharma companies that they could have come up with a better one...Oh yeah, those intelligent people are not the ones who run the companies and sell the products, those people are salesmen and profiteers and board members seeking profits..

Anything above 50% is good, and the side effects are no worse than with the normal flu jab for most people.

Even the serious side effects like clotting are nothing to do with mRNA, and have killed fewer than 100 people out of over 50 million.

This makes the vax a roaring success, and a triumph of mankind over Covid. Estimates are that several hundred thousand lives were saved.

Don't just read the vaccine propaganda. read the actual research, and make sure that the research you read is unbias and that the parameters are correct. I personally know of at least four people who had pretty severe complications to the vaccine and I do know of some people who died after getting vaccinated too close to a surgery. They now have put limitations in the medical system to not give this vaccine for a period before and after a surgery or certain medical treatments from what I heard from some people working in the hospital here and also from looking into it on the net in medical sites.

There is a lot of cover up going on about the side effects of this vaccine. A lot of high ranking medical professionals and people regulating the use of medicines are on defense because they called these vaccines perfectly safe so they are scrutinizing the interpretation of the research to make their decision they made look right. THIS HAPPENS IN ALL KINDS OF THINGS, NOT JUST IN MEDICINE....YOU SEE IT IN POLITICS A LOT AND EVEN IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND IN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AND OUR POLICE FORCES.

I do not believe it is as bad as some say it is either with these vaccines, but I will never say these vaccines are safe and effective because I have been studying medicical research and pharmacology for a decade and a half and frequent the FDA and Pharma sites and read their information. They trick us into believing things with they way they word things...it is legal but it is deceit.

I am not anti-vax and I am not against doctors, they have a job and the majority of them are good people. Some are brainwashed to believe what pharma companies say, but the majority are not that way. But they are restricted from saying things, if they get their license taken away they cannot help their patients anymore.

Don't you wonder why most doctors send people to the vaccine clinics to get their vaccination....they are also trained to not do people harm and they know this vaccine has not been tested properly, they just mention to their patients that there is a vaccine available for covid through the vaccine, from what I am hearing from people is that you have to ask your doctor for the vaccine if you want it from them....if you ask them for the vaccine, it is not them that are putting the patient in harms way if something is found out to be bad with this vaccine. Some are required to mention it is available but from what I have been hearing the vast majority do not try to push it on their patients. I respect them for that.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: carewemust

I'm not sure how old you are, but I've watched Donald Trump for a good portion of my nearly 60 years on this planet.

He is not in this for your good. Nor mine. Only his own self-aggrandizement. If some good comes of it, that helps us, that's more by accident, than intent. The Donald cares first and foremost about...The Donald.

I know that you, and far too many others, disagree with me on that. So be it. The world would be boring if everyone agreed with me.

You are correct with your conclusion BUT (big but here) you haven't looked at the results of his presidency vs that of the Biden presidency.

His presidency had low inflation and unemployment numbers. Biden may have a low unemployment number but inflation was at 6.8% in November. Trump made the US energy independent and a exporter of energy. Under Biden pipelines were cancelled and we're now a net energy importer. He even went to OPEC and begged them to increase exports.

Biden totally botched the Afghanistan withdrawal. And there the vaccination stupidity that's so bad he constantly losing in the courts.

Ultimate conclusion? Trump even with all his shortcomings was a far better president than Biden is. Biden and his Democraps appear to be Socialists/Communists that are attempting to destroy the country and turn it into a Socialist dystopia.

Trump: Miss Me Yet?

originally posted by: ConcernedCanadian
a reply to: 727Sky

None of the genetic horror stories associated with hiv came true and I'm doubtful anything of that very real magnitude pandemic will come from cooties 19 which feels more like junk science and fake news.

Got about as much chance of dying from covid as spontaneous human combustion.

Understood, but time might play a key role here, and repeated injections.

a reply to: ntech

I've never said that Trump didn't do better than most of us believed he'd do. 'Cause he did.

I was pleasantly surprised.

Biden is an incompetent moron who should never have been VP, much less President.

Can't say it any clearer than that.

Doesn't change my opinion on Trump in the slightest, however.

It's always been about feeding his ego. Nothing more, nothing less.

a reply to: seagull
I agree with you but I would ask if you could name even one politician/world leader who isn't in it for the same (or worse like selling us out for money) reasons? Altruism and self-sacrifice are a myth at that level of government.
Stroking Trump's ego is a small price to pay for the U.S. to stay on top.

We know this. It’s been painfully obvious for months, but the narrative shifted from protecting each other to protecting “the system”. # the system, it was broke before Covid and it will be broke long after it’s gone.