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The Moral and Ethical Decline of America
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Byrd,
Your point is comptley valid. Forgive me for not discussing all reasons, governments fail, I was talking about the effects internal corruption, via external ideological warfare tactics. Of course, direct action of superior use of force, is also effective, no doubt. I am a U.S. Marine, quite aware of force.
The title of this post, is in reference to moral decline, not brute force.
...ALL enemies...with or without guns.
Aelita,
This is not a joke, if your are going to toss your opinion around like a rag doll, please give support or reason for your claim. If you can prove what I am saying is wrong, misguided, or otherwise, I welcome correction at all times, it only makes me a better person, ipso facto.
When we say Communist, there is a reason, please read "das captial" by Marx. He declares the goal of Communism to destroy old thinkers, and way, by death camps, to allow the "the new man" to emerge. They believe man will evolve, into a god. Therefore, all disagreement must be killed, to allow the “new man” to emerge, problem is most people cannot believe they are that crazy.
I am not against you, just your statement.
Here is part of my basis for my claim, tell me if any thing here looks familiar?
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
Your point is comptley valid. Forgive me for not discussing all reasons, governments fail, I was talking about the effects internal corruption, via external ideological warfare tactics. Of course, direct action of superior use of force, is also effective, no doubt. I am a U.S. Marine, quite aware of force.
The title of this post, is in reference to moral decline, not brute force.
...ALL enemies...with or without guns.
Aelita,
This is not a joke, if your are going to toss your opinion around like a rag doll, please give support or reason for your claim. If you can prove what I am saying is wrong, misguided, or otherwise, I welcome correction at all times, it only makes me a better person, ipso facto.
When we say Communist, there is a reason, please read "das captial" by Marx. He declares the goal of Communism to destroy old thinkers, and way, by death camps, to allow the "the new man" to emerge. They believe man will evolve, into a god. Therefore, all disagreement must be killed, to allow the “new man” to emerge, problem is most people cannot believe they are that crazy.
I am not against you, just your statement.
Here is part of my basis for my claim, tell me if any thing here looks familiar?
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
When look at the internet and "us", even the pranksters, and the media, and world politics, we do this stuff:
So in short, in a democracy, it's the "Mintuemen" and "Conspiracy Theorists" who are the last line of defense politicaly. So that's why we have the 1st and 2nd Rights on the Bill of Rights, and if you read 18th/19th Century literature enough, like I do, you see this is "The Context" of their usage the founding fathers in the states actually wanted.
Go "US"!!!!!!
[edit on 3/29/05 by BSB2005]
- Study; everyone researches what they know best or are comfortable studying, there is little pressure unless they volunteer.
- Constant Inquizativeness: We always ask questions till we can't sleep at night, even with TV, radios, and PC's in our bedrooms.
- Defense: Everyone who's here learns at least(EVENTUALLY) learns basic hand-to hand combat defense for (rape, "Gastopos", muggings,etc.) "normal
crimes", & we know we can't trust a govt. on some things; so we do it oursleves, even if Buffy is our teacher.
- Unification: We are united by a simple, but standard code of ethics that make us diffence, even by "religious" Americans, who don't seem to
care as long as they aren't effected personally. Basicly, just missing the point of OUR exsistance. They really need to see "National Treasure" to
get the point. If they don't take the responsibilaty for our govet. someone has to regruadless of background, beliefs, favorite bands, genders, -IT
DOESN'T MATTER! WE'RE AMERICANS AND RESPONSIBLE PPL WORLDWIDE, WE CAN'T LET THEM WIN!
So in short, in a democracy, it's the "Mintuemen" and "Conspiracy Theorists" who are the last line of defense politicaly. So that's why we have the 1st and 2nd Rights on the Bill of Rights, and if you read 18th/19th Century literature enough, like I do, you see this is "The Context" of their usage the founding fathers in the states actually wanted.
Go "US"!!!!!!
[edit on 3/29/05 by BSB2005]
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