What if covid was China's plan to bring down the west?

a reply to: glen200376

our governments have either been corrupted by chinese money or infested with infiltrators as well big business, globalist corporations and media.
I doubt china and cpc are at the top of the tree, they are just a means to an end for those that are.

THE NAKED COMMUNIST: 45 COMMUNIST GOALS
On Jan. 10, 1963, Congressman Albert S. Herlong Jr. of Florida read a list of 45 Communist goals into the Congressional
Record.
1. U.S. should accept coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. should be willing to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the U.S. would be a demonstration of "moral strength."
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used forwar.
5. Extend long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China and admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free
elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the U.S. has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with
its own independent armed forces.
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the U.S.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the
curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in textbooks.18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations that are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to
"eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings," substituting shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio
and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural and healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for
intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of
church and state"
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to
cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part
of "the big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture – education, social agencies, welfare
programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioural problems as psychiatric disorders
which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose
communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and
retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special
interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally Reservation so the U.S. cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems.
Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

how many can you check off?

a reply to: TzarChasm

Jan. 9,2017 was 11 days before Trump sworn in. Here is the official archive:

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: zoller

What if covid was China's plan to bring down the west?

Ummm.

Duh.

there you are…I was jonesing for some DB sarcasm

So they tested it out on Wuhanians to make sure it was effective enough to spring on the West? Had some tweaking to do?

a reply to: zoller

With few exceptions, all of the world's governments have been colluding on this for over a decade.

a reply to: tamusan

That's right it's a coup of some kind and all the MP's look scared #less.

a reply to: Anadandan

Wuhan was the perfect place for it to quickly spread around the world and it also happened at the perfect time for it to do so.

Trump's import embargoes on China were really starting to bite. The CCP looked on the ropes.

Covid emerges from China and suddenly the whole world is on the ropes with them.

2+2=?

Then again, sometimes thing's aren't necessarily how they appear.

However, the obvious math here should have China trying to convince the world this ain't so. Instead they seem to want to obfuscate investigation and remain isolated. Meanwhile they recover from Covid faster than most, almost as if they knew it was coming.

Not saying it's an open and shut case, but that's how it appears.

Ok. Right, let’s get this straight. This is not a government plan as such. It makes no difference who is in power as they are ALL the same. ALL controlled by the same faceless shadows. Democracy is an illusion to pacify us, just a game we THINK we have a hand in.

China are just a tool for these people and just as controlled. They are, however, playing the lead role. The DNA/rNA sequence given to the vaccine makers by China should have been a giant red flag. Covid was the key and the inhuman rush and pressure for the vaccine appears to me to have been the actual goal. Hence why they are pushing it ever harder and faster now - knowing it will have no impact against Omicron.

We are deep in to this. The reasons to me are hazy, the actual goals difficult to gauge, as I’m not sure vast depopulation IS the goal, as that drives their wealth, power and, to some degree, anonymity.

a reply to: tamusan

I just don't buy it. China wants revenge for the wrongs of the past and wants to be a major player but this not how they will go about it. The virus has hurt China. Right now China is more huff than puff.

originally posted by: McGinty
Trump's import embargoes on China were really starting to bite. The CCP looked on the ropes.

Covid emerges from China and suddenly the whole world is on the ropes with them.

2+2=?

Then again, sometimes thing's aren't necessarily how they appear.

However, the obvious math here should have China trying to convince the world this ain't so. Instead they seem to want to obfuscate investigation and remain isolated. Meanwhile they recover from Covid faster than most, almost as if they knew it was coming.

Not saying it's an open and shut case, but that's how it appears.

Not to mention that CCP's only bsl4 biowarfare lab was within blocks of ground zero.

Or that we KNOW CCP was researching gain of function in THAT bsl4 lab.

Or that Obama quietly AUTHORIZED that otherwise ILLEGAL research funding 11 days before 45 was sworn in.

Which was 1 day after the now famous secret whitehouse strategy meeting on how to obstruct & damage 45.

Until someone actually finds a bat with covid19, there is no case to consider for anyone with IQ over 70.

CCP lost control of a bioweapon research project, and then caused millions of deaths and many trillions of dollars in damages for a completely and easily preventable global pandemic by covering it up while allowing global spread.

In an effort to save face.

Of course, CCP could have proven this to not be the case at any point since October 2019, when a whistleblowing CCP defector told the world about the hell CCP had unleashed on everyone.

CCP could easily prove their innocence still today, if they didn't in fact lose control of one or more biowarfare research specimens.

But instead CCP threatens WAR with Australia, who had the audacity to request an investigation.

CCP is a lying dog faced tiger.

The face of this evil is not worth saving.

It should have been treated like an attack on NATO and China should have been held responsible.

originally posted by: oddnutz
a reply to: glen200376

our governments have either been corrupted by chinese money or infested with infiltrators as well big business, globalist corporations and media.
I doubt china and cpc are at the top of the tree, they are just a means to an end for those that are.

THE NAKED COMMUNIST: 45 COMMUNIST GOALS
On Jan. 10, 1963, Congressman Albert S. Herlong Jr. of Florida read a list of 45 Communist goals into the Congressional
Record.
1. U.S. should accept coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. should be willing to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the U.S. would be a demonstration of "moral strength."
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used forwar.
5. Extend long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China and admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free
elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the U.S. has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with
its own independent armed forces.
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the U.S.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the
curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in textbooks.18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations that are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to
"eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings," substituting shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio
and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural and healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for
intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of
church and state"
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to
cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part
of "the big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture – education, social agencies, welfare
programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioural problems as psychiatric disorders
which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose
communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and
retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special
interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally Reservation so the U.S. cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems.
Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

how many can you check off?

Thank you for the history lesson, it’s Absolutely revolting. but dead on accurate.

originally posted by: wdkirk
It should have been treated like an attack on NATO and China should have been held responsible.

It was.

NATO, and everyone else on the planet

No different than if USSR had 'lost control' of, and covered up instead of warning about, a secret submarine that successfully launched nukes on every NATO country at once.

Every leftist here saw the movie, and knows what the US response would rightfully be.

And yet those same leftists have been working overtime here for almost 2 years in an effort to defend what CCP just did.

Democrats.

~ Insert shocked face here ~

originally posted by: zoller

So it is my belief that covid was intentionally lab leaked and blown out of proportion by WHO to cause panic in the west and ruin the economy of the west, although they weren't able to achieve that ultimately, especially not in Republican states, although Democrat states mandate children wear mask all day at school which will result in serious mental damage to children in Democrat states.

by the West, do you mean Russia?

And why, if true, is China still in a near permanent state of lockdown?

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: zoller

So it is my belief that covid was intentionally lab leaked and blown out of proportion by WHO to cause panic in the west and ruin the economy of the west, although they weren't able to achieve that ultimately, especially not in Republican states, although Democrat states mandate children wear mask all day at school which will result in serious mental damage to children in Democrat states.

by the West, do you mean Russia?

And why, if true, is China still in a near permanent state of lockdown?

CCP's China is far worse than 'in a near permanent state of lockdown' right now.

Much, much worse.

Some weapons tend to backfire.

Exactly the reason such research was made illegal.

Until 11 days before 45 was sworn in.

Coincidence?

So, just to clarify…

The logical and rational conclusion ATSers have come to with regard to COVID is it is a bio weapon, created by China, to destroy the West. And by West we mean, non-communist based, democratic govts? Ie: US, Canada, UK, etc..?

If that’s the case, then why is COVID impacting China as well? Why does it have a more adverse affect on South-East Asian genetics? It’s also mutating into more transmissible, more severe variants. How would China be immune to this?

The real answer is: it isn’t true. It IS NOT a weapon created to destroy the West. Why? COVID infects and kills regardless of what your religious, political or other moronic ideologies might be. It doesn’t care whether you’re American, Canadian, Chinese or Russian; everyone is fair game.

Why can’t you guys focus on conspiracy theories that actually have evidence or even logical credibility?

a reply to: noonebutme

abovetopsecret.com
Is not for

conspiracy theories that actually have evidence or even logical credibility

If those were to exist.

Its just for entertainment.

You sound like Gilligan.
From Gilligan's Island
21 months ago that would have been insightful.
, today it's not.

originally posted by: zoller
So I noticed the head of WHO is this Tedros guy who is from the Tigray People's Liberation Front. No doubt from this party's logo it is a Communist party.

Tedros Adhanom

Tigray People's Liberation Front

I also seem to recall Trump withdraw the US from WHO after lashing out at WHO is working on an agenda with the Chinese Communist party.

Trump administration submits formal notice of withdrawal from WHO

Also, the fact that WHO deliberately skipped Xi letter to designate a covid variant pretty much validates the fact that Xi is WHO's boss.

WHO skipped over Nu and Xi to avoid causing cultural offence in naming new variant

So it is my belief that covid was intentionally lab leaked and blown out of proportion by WHO to cause panic in the west and ruin the economy of the west, although they weren't able to achieve that ultimately, especially not in Republican states, although Democrat states mandate children wear mask all day at school which will result in serious mental damage to children in Democrat states.

originally posted by: AndyMayhew
And why, if true, is China still in a near permanent state of lockdown?

Isn't lockdown the resting bitch face of fascism?

It could be argued that if China released Covid on purpose, then gaining even more control over their own populace would be an added bonus to the primary of damaging the West. Why would the CCP want to give up restrictions even if there were no more Covid. Before they would've been sanctioned by the West for implementing draconian restrictions, but now they are thanked.