How to stop organized retail theft vol 1

I was thinking more of something like this

Once the looter leaves the store with it, it becomes an unsellable item if gotten back. With the current laws the way they are, injuring or killing looters except for maybe under martial law conditions are grounds for the looters to sue. USA is a country full of hungry lawyers wanting that big break.

a reply to: peter_kandra

That sounds like a good idea. Thanks for the info!

Simple solution. Have tickets to the item under a picture of the item and are only available if requested from a salesperson. If you choose to have a display model, make sure it is securely locked attached to something that would take time to cut through. That said, it is a sad state of affairs that these measures are even necessary. Diversity is definitely NOT our strength.

originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
a reply to: machineintelligence

You're assuming this is an issue that the people who created wish to see solved.

Here's a conspiracy theory:

Go light on property crime in certain areas. Encourage it, even.

In the face of rampant retail theft and property damage, businesses close down and move out of the area. Any law-abiding persons residing in the area who are able to move will do so.

Property values plummet.

The people who created the problem buy up the property cheap. Then they throw out the undesirables and restore law and order. They rebuild the area and, Presto, huge profits.

It may take a few years, but pay close attention to real estate values while this is happening. See who buys the land.

That was basically the plot of Robo-Cop. The Omni Corp did that exact thing.

These raids are set up online.

Unfortunately they are not the only less than legal, and often lethal, activities that are arranged online.

I hate to be the one that brings it up, but accountability and responsibility, are chatacteristics that are no longer required of our youths. They get a free pass, because they are not characteristics that are taught or instilled in them.

If we are honest about responsibility and entitlement, the blame should be placed were it belongs, and it is not on the child.

Parenting has been removed from the home, and those parents that attempt to fulfill their duty as parents, are too often punished for it, by the schools, government, and society.

I agree with the poster that suggested we go back in time a bit.

A little old school discipline, parenting, and community support, would stop a lot of this. The punishment should fit the crime, and it should fit the child.

I was not lucky as a child. My parents, my mother and my father, did not believe in corporal punishment. I often begged for a spanking, but my father was a believer in a punishment that made you think about your transgression. That usually ended up being something that took hours, a lot of sweat, and muscle aches for days.
Chopping wood, washing, polishing, and buffing, was their favorites. If you were stupid enough to do a job poorly, you would be repeating it, until you got it right.

May be why so many of us 10 children grew up so anal and detail oriented.

Parenting old school, would not stop those events that are staged, but it would stop the youths from performing the copy cat events, that go viral, and stimulate more activity.

We give our children loaded weapons before they can walk or talk. We give them no training, few if any warnings, knowing that anyone that wishes them harm, has easy access to activating it, and we think it is good parenting.

I won't get into what I see on a regular basis, as the result of a society run through the matrix of the WWW.

I can tell you that I am saddened by the number of parents that have to watch, come face to face, with the horrors that befall their children, as the result of an ill fated event caused by unsupervised and irresponsible activity initiated online.

Even if they are able to pick up the pieces, they will never be the same. With the most expensive of frames, with the patience and skills of a master, and multiple layers of shellac, the seams where the broken peices were realigned, will still be visible.

Parents of today have become experts at formulating excuses for children. They are not protecting their children, and in the end, it will be little consolation for a child lost, imprisoned, or one they will have to bury.

originally posted by: eManym
Once the looter leaves the store with it, it becomes an unsellable item if gotten back. With the current laws the way they are, injuring or killing looters except for maybe under martial law conditions are grounds for the looters to sue. USA is a country full of hungry lawyers wanting that big break.

Here is what we do then. Make it if you get injured in the act of a theft you have waived your rights to a jury trial and waived your rights to life and limb.

originally posted by: sarahvital

doesn't work

a reply to: musicismagic

yeah i deleted it, was practicing how to imbed vids

a reply to: machineintelligence

yeah,
#1...dont allow people wearing masks hoodies and gloves into your store.

#2... install another set of doors to create a bulletproof airlock-type chamber,
use rfid tags, keep doors locked until computer checkout says O.K.

#3.... have FREE coffee and donuts for officers from any branch of service
at entrances.

#4.... REQUIRE I.D. TO GET IN with their faces on video

and youre right, they should be able to track down ANY device that gets wifi, with precision..

#5 nano-sized pixie dust, sleightly radioactive (not harmful) sprinkled on suspected
shoplifters as they exit, can be tracked by satellite.. dont wash off till half-life is up..
(i call patent)

originally posted by: Brotherman
I was thinking more of something like this

that would work but i like the things they had in the matrix revolution defending the city when the squid things were coming through that hole in the roof.
or tracers on everything or a plutonium dip on everything or trap doors with pungie sticks at the bottom of the pit,

or an Ebola spray on the way out? let em bring it back to the nests. claymores? snipers? come to think of it, what are they gonna do with 50 people trapped inside? arrest them? they will only be out the next day with a parking ticket. maybe the UN that's already there can help?
i mean a little Vlad the Impailer infront of each store would be a deterrent, i think. it won't take many i bet.

12 GAUGE!!

DOUBLE BARREL!

Drop the 1st one...NEXT???...situation OVER!!

originally posted by: cappie
a reply to: machineintelligence

yeah,
#1...dont allow people wearing masks hoodies and gloves into your store.

#2... install another set of doors to create a bulletproof airlock-type chamber,
use rfid tags, keep doors locked until computer checkout says O.K.

#3.... have FREE coffee and donuts for officers from any branch of service
at entrances.

#4.... REQUIRE I.D. TO GET IN with their faces on video

and youre right, they should be able to track down ANY device that gets wifi, with precision..

#5 nano-sized pixie dust, sleightly radioactive (not harmful) sprinkled on suspected
shoplifters as they exit, can be tracked by satellite.. dont wash off till half-life is up..
(i call patent)

pretty good ideas but the ID thing is racist as we already know.

a reply to: sarahvital

Suppose you can’t tell when I’m joking around. Here’s the sad part, what I really would like to impose is far worse then a robot and it don’t even involve killing anyone, normally. Think about that for a second…

What I would really do is make me a ball kind of like a big golf ball 3D printed and machined in a way that when under pressure explodes into equal fragments… these fragments would contain barbs like fish hooks that would need surgically removed, as the ballast and business side the other end would be outfitted with a neat multi color led that flashes the gay pride colors as well as a nifty gps tracker. I’d set my device to air burst using compressed co2 and design it to shoot my gps trackers at a 270 degree fan around head level, meaning I’ll be hitting mainly chests and legs.


How ya like me now?

originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: sarahvital

Suppose you can’t tell when I’m joking around. Here’s the sad part, what I really would like to impose is far worse then a robot and it don’t even involve killing anyone, normally. Think about that for a second…

What I would really do is make me a ball kind of like a big golf ball 3D printed and machined in a way that when under pressure explodes into equal fragments… these fragments would contain barbs like fish hooks that would need surgically removed, as the ballast and business side the other end would be outfitted with a neat multi color led that flashes the gay pride colors as well as a nifty gps tracker. I’d set my device to air burst using compressed co2 and design it to shoot my gps trackers at a 270 degree fan around head level, meaning I’ll be hitting mainly chests and legs.


How ya like me now?

No thats cruel and unusual. a bullet is preferable

a reply to: yuppa

Well when mobs like this get comfortable doing it in stores maybe they’ll move on to neighborhoods with nice homes if food starts getting scarce? If law enforcement don’t or can’t do what they need to do I don’t find it cruel or unusual to be able to track down violators like dogs. Trespassing on private property can land you the death sentence. My solution is non lethal

originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: yuppa

Well when mobs like this get comfortable doing it in stores maybe they’ll move on to neighborhoods with nice homes if food starts getting scarce? If law enforcement don’t or can’t do what they need to do I don’t find it cruel or unusual to be able to track down violators like dogs. Trespassing on private property can land you the death sentence. My solution is non lethal

you teach the crowd by setting examples. Criminals who betray the law should be considered to have waived their human rights. seeing a dude lose his head next to you is a powerful message. If you want to track criminals then rfid them when arrested as part of release.

a reply to: Brotherman

i remember seeing (tv) an anti-rape device sortof like that,
she inserted a glass jar and cut the metal lid into barbs
should have some glass shards in it though

a reply to: machineintelligence

Did it ever occur to you that city police departments may be getting pressured by the DAs and city councils to NOT do anything to deter this kind of crime. Look at the big picture. These stores go out of business since operating costs are too high. Amazon swoops down and captures the business they did with online sales. or they buy up big box and brick and mortar stores and have these as pickup sites for online purchases. No more home delivery, you go to them to pick up what you already bought. No theft losses. Amazon lines the pockets of the politicos and funds their re election bids and they're all happy as pigs in mud.