if covid is a pandemic, why then do we have large homeless camps

originally posted by: AndyMayhew
Ah, someone else who thinks the USA is the whole world and nowhere else exists ....

Maybe try looking up the meaning of the word pandemic? And then look at what's happening in the other 200 odd countries in the world?

um there is homeless camps in mexico (along with those waiting to enter at the boarder be legal or illegal)
there are homeless "camps" in UK an other countries.

but notice no massive death in those either

im sorry but you also are an example of cherry picking and spin but not facts

scrounger

originally posted by: AccessDenied
Directly from a friend who works in a homeless shelter:
" The biggest reason why no Covid in amongst the homeless is because for the most part they keep to themselves. They don't intermingle with the rest of society nor does the rest of society care to intermingle with them. To most people they are invisible. Couple that with being outside in the fresh air usually, and exposed countlessly to things which test the immune system and there you have your answer."

Plausible, granted.

Would make for a interesting research paper.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: scrounger

Seriously, does anybody actually check homeless camps for covid?

well maybe yes or maybe no
but if covid is a "deadly pandemic" you be seeing massive deaths in the camps and they be trying to find out why..

so maybe there is covid in the camps... so?

unless its killing people then it isnt a factor to be feared or mandated now is it

scrounger

originally posted by: BrokenCircles
a reply to: scrounger

I wasn't saying you were wrong, and I wasn't denying anything other than the fact that you claimed to have provided "COLD HARD EVIDENCE", but you presented no actual evidence.

Just because you type it, doesn't make it evidence.

thank you for being an example of "doubling down" on a lie and trying to make it the truth by repeating it

the "evidence" is there is NO MASSIVE DEATH FROM COVID in the camps

the camps have about every factor to foster a "covid pandemic" possible but yet no reported massive death.
something that no only could not be hidden, but for covid mandate supporters would be PLASTERED ON THE NEWS every hour of every day for two weeks or more

even better someone like you be presenting it

sorry but the proof is there if you care to (figuratively and literally) open your eyes..

btw do you need someone to proof to you water is wet as well?

scrounger

originally posted by: scrounger

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: scrounger

Seriously, does anybody actually check homeless camps for covid?

well maybe yes or maybe no
but if covid is a "deadly pandemic" you be seeing massive deaths in the camps and they be trying to find out why..

so maybe there is covid in the camps... so?

unless its killing people then it isnt a factor to be feared or mandated now is it

scrounger

It probably kills about 1.6 percent of everyone who is infected.

Let's look at this logically. Cities with large homeless problems tend to be Democrat, and the Democrats are in denial that their homeless policies are in shambles, so admitting that covid is killing them would be like admitting that their polices had failed. So it's in their interest to turn a blind eye.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

1.6%

Backup that figure with a source please.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Granitebones
That does raise a very interesting point. I did some brief checking on the UK side of this and as yet I have not found any info wrt homeless camps post Covid.

Does the uk have homeless camps?

I was wondering if someone was going to ask that and the same answer applies regarding any post Covid coverage. I didnt mention it as I thought it might have lead to drift in the topic.

a reply to: scrounger

What lie is it that you think I'm 'doubling down' on? I made no claims.

I don't need any proof that this whole thing is bullsnip. I'm not disputing that at all.

However, just like I don't believe everything I'm told about Covid, I'm also not going to just accept the words you type as being absolute facts. You typing something doesn't make it evidence.

As you said, "If the role of ATS is to Deny Ignorance", then when someone says they have provided cold hard undeniable evidence, then I expect to see some evidence.



Did you post this thread with the hopes of possibly persuading people to see it in a different way?

or did you post it because you wanted to hear from others who already agreed with you?

Your avatar...That is a beautiful horse face.....Oh yea.a reply to: Granitebones

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: AaarghZombies

1.6%

Backup that figure with a source please.

In my signature.

a reply to: scrounger

50 Military medical personnel were sent here to help our local hospital.

Tapped out, 100 patients in a day...our workers can't any more.

Gov sending help.

So, whatever you're thinking.....you're way off the mark.

And you can die...or not, I don't care. Do you?

Keep believing every scrap of nonsense you keep putting here.

Med Resp

originally posted by: BrokenCircles
a reply to: scrounger

You have presented no evidence.

There is no evidence. 👍✌️

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Death with a positive test for Covid and death as a direct result of the virus are two different things. You said Covid kills 1.6% of those it infects, which simply isn't true.

Provide the source, i'm not rummaging through the ONS for something that doesn't exist. The onus is on you to provide evidence for YOUR claims.

Excess deaths comparatively to the last 5 years would be a better indicator rather than the inflated and skewed data sets your sources rely upon.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Death with a positive test for Covid and death as a direct result of the virus are two different things. You said Covid kills 1.6% of those it infects, which simply isn't true.

Provide the source, i'm not rummaging through the ONS for something that doesn't exist. The onus is on you to provide evidence for YOUR claims.

Excess deaths comparatively to the last 5 years would be a better indicator rather than the inflated and skewed data sets your sources rely upon.

During the first wave a 25% increase in excess deaths.

www.kingsfund.org.uk...

a reply to: ScepticScot

As it was ravaging through care homes, taking the weak and vulnerable.

Makes sense.

a reply to: scrounger
I've noticed in my neck of the woods, las Vegas, the number of those living on the streets currently have diminished, and started looking like foreigners are replacing the usual faces.
🙏❤

What we say about the homeless camps is also true about a good chunk of the third world. But they are not dying en mass either. Conclusion: it's more a scamdemic than a pandemic.

originally posted by: starviego
What we say about the homeless camps is also true about a good chunk of the third world. But they are not dying in mass either. Conclusion: it's more a scamdemic than a pandemic.

Or it suggests, as we already know, covid is far more deadly to older people.

Countries and groups with with lower median age will have lower covid deaths.

Like the homeless for example.

OMG just about 200 ft out my kitchen window 2 properties down on a place called Fountain Creek there are about 12 tents that have been there for months usually the cops will have a sweep every few months and run them off but not this year the last sweep was in March last spring, the cops now dont care and they are destroying the eco system of this creek with all the piles of garbage everywhere, when ever i see a large bonfire i called the fire dept and they show up and put it out im sure they tell the cops about the camp but nothing has been done about it. They must be halfway healthy they are always partying and I see them at the closest grocery store everyday asking for money. Sometimes I will find needles on a walking path when I take my dog out.

a reply to: scrounger

Facts over feelings. You've made a very emotionally charged post without any evidence and resulted to ad hominem attacks the first time someone presented a criticism. I'm sure you'll attack me as well.

You're trying to say that there is no pandemic because homeless camps exist. Even if covid killed 1% of people (which is doesn't), homeless camps would still exist.

Who exactly is:

cherry picking facts, ignoring scientific facts, ignoring hard numbers , twisting facts, "temper tantrums" , personal attacks and outright lies

?