Worried about my wife

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

I remember Bush signing the Patriot Act, and not sure if he or someone else stated then.

Once that bill was passed, nothing will ever be the same again. Amazing how smoothly that transition took place.

I know I complied😑

I think Covid/the engineered spike protein is more dangerous than just a regular flu like ‘anti vaxxers’ say which therefore makes the vaccines more dangerous. But I also think the spike protein from Covid and/or the recently vaccinated IF there is shedding is a risk for unvaccinated people.

Both unvaccinated and vaccinated should do things to prevent blood clotting/heart issues/etc. While I think the governments of the world are off their rocker I think they also know something that we don’t about the virus itself. If the spike protein was genetically engineered with say the HIV genome, who KNOWS what a cold virus with HIV like features will do to our health long term. Best to be on guard.

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Shooting that experimental poison inside a body that already is protected with numerous T cells makes no sense.

So easy to find information throughout internet by medical professionals showing us FACTS
about the dangers concerning this experimental drug which is NOT a vaccine.

a reply to: Lux96

Yes after watching these guys story I am stunned anyone would do this! It was a MRNA too

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
So keep job or gamble with your life and she took the gamble.....

God forbid...but if she has severe side effects that lead to a permanent disability or death no one to blame..except herself.

A job over my life....no thank you.

a reply to: DAVID64

Murder by extortion if she dies. Charge every one of them.

a reply to: DAVID64

I am so sorry your wife was forced to comply.You
two will be in my prayers.

a reply to: Lux96

Reported adverse reactions is not the same as proven adverse reactions.

Technical but significant.

originally posted by: sciencelol
Just quit your job.

You can get another job that pays just as well and wont mandate the jab.

And it doesnt have to be in your field.

People are begging for employees

This.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: Lux96

We had these in the 50's in school:

Smallpox
Diphtheria*
Tetanus*
Pertussis...and Measles, Mumps, Chicken Pox..

All of them

Ergo? Your premise is we should be seeing issues now...later...as you suggest current vax would do?

Wow...It's always been 50-50

I am quite tired of people who give inane advice without even the foggiest clue about the differences between old school vaccines and the gene therapy mRNA shot that causes your immune system to attack your own cells. Increasing the chances and negative effects with each following injection.
You are spreading misinformation because you have no idea what you are on about.

a reply to: Lux96

You know? A retired responder...we treat...and learn to "do" without thinking.

Yes, we become cynical...but I'm smart enough...like you...to know...and understand all the implications.

Honest. We EMT's believe..medically at least...to treat...and certainly don't agree w a lot, as you don't.

That's WHY we are what we are doing you see? No judgements, no convincing you, you're sick, injured, bleeding...that's bout the only thing that matters.

Maybe it's just that's us jaded that vac are good, ok, necessary....but...we know better too.

Everything we know? It's 50-50. In practice, theory and application.
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Best wishes to your wife. I hope she does not have too bad a reaction from the shots. My wife had the J&J about five months ago and she did not have any side effects at all. She just got over the SARS-CoV 2 infection and it was not bad. I had it too, no vaccine at all, and it was just a couple day event with a little reduction of ability to taste things, noway even close to her loss of taste and smell.

Yesterday I found an article of pfizers upcoming approval of an antiviral med and I showed it to her along with another article of which foods naturally do the same things. She said that we have been eating a lot of those foods for a couple of weeks, I said I know, I have been cooking and I don't want her croaking or winding up in the hospital....She will be seventy in a few months, she is also on a couple of meds that do increase risk, I wasn't going to let this virus turn covid so I cooked and prepared foods that were antiviral for those two weeks. I also was using chemistry that was similar to the UKs approved covid inhibiting medication. She told her friend today on the phone her illness was not very bad because I have been giving her anti-viral foods....but in essence, just because those foods are the basis for the medicines they are trying to get approved it does not mean that the foods helped her, there is no proof at all that she would have done worse without them because I was not going to chance her getting really sick. These pharma companies have structured things so that only evidence they create the design of is accepted as evidence. I don't care, my wife is doing great....If it helped it helped, who cares, I tried and she is better, better than sitting on my thumbs and doing nothing and increasing the chance of her having to go to the hospital.

a reply to: DAVID64

Not to forget the best for your wife, you n family. Ok?
God Bless

Always fight the good fight! And we'll come n bandage ya when hurt!
😁👍

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Lux96

I'm concerned about long term effects as well.
Not for myself because I'm 50 and male but my 19 yr old daughters future is a different story.

As I mentioned above, I know a lady who's cycle was effected.
Will there be long term issues down the line?

With people's cycles affected after ONE round of this shot, and further "boosters" for infinity, I would expect long term issues. It's taken me a long time to believe it, but yes, I think this is specifically designed to sterilize a segment of the public. There's a reason Africa started rejecting Gates' vaccines, when they found out women were becoming sterile. And there's no reason to assume it wouldn't be tried on the entire world. There is a difference between something that sounds outrageous, impossible, unfathomable, and the possibility that it's actually true. Six million Jews exterminated like bugs = unfathomable, also = happened.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: Lux96

You know? A retired responder...we treat...and learn to "do" without thinking.

Yes, we become cynical...but I'm smart enough...like you...to know...and understand all the implications.

Honest. We EMT's believe..medically at least...to treat...and certainly don't agree w a lot, as you don't.

That's WHY we are what we are doing you see? No judgements, no convincing you, you're sick, injured, bleeding...that's bout the only thing that matters.

Maybe it's just that's us jaded that vac are good, ok, necessary....but...we know better too.

Everything we know? It's 50-50. In practice, theory and application.
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Gauge Grosskruetz is this you?

So due to your experience as a first responder you understand mrna vaccines better than the other people in this thread? Do you understand how absurd that premise is...?

I feel like you might be confused...

As others have mentioned you cannot compare mrna vaccines to old school vaccines. There is literally no long term data on the mrna vaccines available. They only have short term data and so far it does not look all that safe. This does not even account for the boosters - which are shaping up to be twice a year minimum.

So.. do some research ok?

originally posted by: DAVID64
....and more than a little pissed.

Last week, the hospital where my wife works gave the employees an ultimatum. Get the vax by the end of November or get suspended. They will not outright fire you, but you'll be suspended till you comply. Up till now, it had been available, but not mandatory, but for some reason, they are just now making up their minds.

See how insidious this is ? This is how they get you. We can't force you to take it, but we'll take away your livelihood till you do what we say and if you quit, well too bad for you. My wife has blood pressure and kidney problems and takes several meds a day. Her Dad has had a triple bypass, clotting issues and her Mom has had a stroke, so her family history is not great.

She got her first jab yesterday and her arm is sore and she's not feeling her best this morning. I will be keeping a very close eye on her.

I hope your wife is ok man. That's a hard choice for her to have had to make. The people forcing it known this and anticipate many to choose like your wife did. Coercion.

a reply to: DAVID64

Hope she is feeling better today

a reply to: Imperator2
Don't waste your breath. I explained to him in the past, that just because he is used to force medical procedures on others (life saving or not), he should not copy this to everything in his life.

Sure, if someone has their mouth full of teeth and blood and is struggling, you force that on them, for their good.

That attitude bleeds over, every single EMT I know is like this when it comes to health.


Disclaimer:
EMT are valuable persons for their service to humanity, no doubt about it. They need a certain mindset or attitude to function and I understand that therefor, borders have to be blurred. Like forcing something onto someone. But really, every single EMT I know has this attitude of a doctor but is none. I get that they are on the front line and sometimes need to convince people to their own good.

But often they forget to differ between these situations and situations where they have no authority to speak up. I once had an EMT in a thread where it was about speed (as in velocity). The speeds described are perfectly legal and also manageable for someone with a propper license and experience.

Yet that one commented on how anti social this all is, forgetting completely that literally millions of people drive like that daily and nothing happens. Because the one was from the USA too and can just not imagine driving such speeds save.

Perspective again.

a reply to: Imperator2
Then you understand ..we take all the info from people like you..and unlike you ..like your info here? We take all info ..all...good, bad, potential, possible...yep...to assimilate all of it to treat the injured and dying.

So thanks for adding what we learned in studies in oh ..1985...and will continue to utilize....as needed.

You were so into it....you missed my point, perhaps too simple.

God Bless


Of course this is different. We knew and know, and go to work.

You assume too little of the education of emergency workers/personnel.

We'll still come when you call ....👍

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Force? We force nothing on anyone.

Dont want us there? We're gone. Really!

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: Imperator2
Then you understand ..we take all the info from people like you..and unlike you ..like your info here? We take all info ..all...good, bad, potential, possible...yep...to assimilate all of it to treat the injured and dying.

So thanks for adding what we learned in studies in oh ..1985...and will continue to utilize....as needed.

You were so into it....you missed my point, perhaps too simple.

God Bless


Of course this is different. We knew and know, and go to work.

You assume too little of the education of emergency workers/personnel.

We'll still come when you call ....👍

You come because it is your job, not because you want to come. I think you are confusing your job with you being some kind of super hero going around and deciding who to help. You realize that type of rationale and reasoning would make you delusional right?

I would add more in response, but I don't think it will help you. Thatdamnduckagain is absolutely right.

originally posted by: DAVID64
....and more than a little pissed.

Last week, the hospital where my wife works gave the employees an ultimatum. Get the vax by the end of November or get suspended. They will not outright fire you, but you'll be suspended till you comply. Up till now, it had been available, but not mandatory, but for some reason, they are just now making up their minds.

See how insidious this is ? This is how they get you. We can't force you to take it, but we'll take away your livelihood till you do what we say and if you quit, well too bad for you. My wife has blood pressure and kidney problems and takes several meds a day. Her Dad has had a triple bypass, clotting issues and her Mom has had a stroke, so her family history is not great.

She got her first jab yesterday and her arm is sore and she's not feeling her best this morning. I will be keeping a very close eye on her.

Um...she works at a hospital, right? She has access to many doctors, correct? Has she made any attempt to get a doctor to make a written medical statement that says she is not a good candidate for the shot? And why in hell did she take the first shot anyway??? Crazy. I took both shots, no problem, then again, I'm very healthy. In fact, I had covid (flu) March 2020 and it kicked my butt very hard -- that's why I took the two shots but no more. Not that I do not trust CDC but rather I don't even like taking aspirin. Best to you and your wife but she really should get a 'medical waiver.' The resources to do it are at her finger tips...