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originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
So when Pfizer completed their expedited phase III clinical trial, skipping animal model studies, and doing so within a 6-month window, for something that would normally take 5-10 years, we all waited in anticipation for the miracle cure.
Though I can agree with you 100% on how wrong the draconian way the Goverment is treating all this your statement above is wrong and nothing more than a false statement that plays itself over and over on the net.
First human trials with mRNA was in 2013
Its been around for 30+ years
The way it works they don't need 5 to 10 years as maybe once was in days of old, it isn't 1940 anymore...
Phase 3 trials had about 10 times the people than normal Phase 3 trails...
mRNA isn't a drug, its a natural recurring molecule that only makes protein, nothing more or less, and NOT gene therapy in anyway.
It last 1 day and the protein about 2 weeks tops, so long term effects are rare compared to real drugs.
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Thats actually not true. The drug they created last year would normally go through many years of testing. Just because you tested a concept in the past doesn't mean it would count toward a new drug that's been developed. Furthermore ever attempt they made at creating an mRNA drug for the original SARS killed every single animal it was tested on. This was nothing like a normal timeline for clinical trials and even if it was, they faked the data so it doesn't matter how long it was, the data can't be trusted. They already got caught for this in the past. Fool me once...
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
But first, let's rewind the clock 12 years. In 2009 Pfizer paid the largest criminal fine in history for paying off doctors, and faking trial results, among other things:
www.justice.gov...
Or that according to a report that was released last summer, the global elite have up to 32 TRILLION dollars stashed in offshore banks around the globe, which can fund lawsuit after lawsuit against the people who are tired of being poisoned.
Who are Really the Top Shareholders of Monsanto?
originally posted by: zandra
a reply to: oddnutz
Do the mrna vanccines contain aluminium? I am not sure about that, but I don't think so.
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
I am normally pro-vax but this is really interesting and sounds as if there was some malfeasance in pushing through the trials and ignoring issues.
Thank you for this. It is one of the few anti-vax stories that seems to have merit.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Thats actually not true. The drug they created last year would normally go through many years of testing. Just because you tested a concept in the past doesn't mean it would count toward a new drug that's been developed. Furthermore ever attempt they made at creating an mRNA drug for the original SARS killed every single animal it was tested on. This was nothing like a normal timeline for clinical trials and even if it was, they faked the data so it doesn't matter how long it was, the data can't be trusted. They already got caught for this in the past. Fool me once...
Testing isn't about how long it takes, its about the viability of humans in many cases to test. In 2013 mRNA was used for rabies using 100 people with 300 shots, as example of maybe how hard it is to find suitable subjects, but that wasn't the case with COVID as they could find and did use 10,000s in the trails.
mRNA isn't a drug, so why do people keep saying it over and over. The body has like 10,000 different RNA that do simple tasks like make many different kinds of proteins. Its about as natural process as one can get, and in this case the mRNA makes only one protein that the body sees as an invader and reacts to.
The mRNA process for Rabies, Ebola, COVID etc etc all are the same process to produce a protein that the body reacts to so that when the real thing hits the body is ready. Prior to COVID they were testing mRNA on the heavy hitters for over a decade and so switching to COVID is an easy task as the process was already in place for a good while.
The reality is it is very elegant in how it performs compared to actual drugs that can totally screw up your body.
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
I am normally pro-vax but this is really interesting and sounds as if there was some malfeasance in pushing through the trials and ignoring issues.
Thank you for this. It is one of the few anti-vax stories that seems to have merit.
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
I am normally pro-vax but this is really interesting and sounds as if there was some malfeasance in pushing through the trials and ignoring issues.
Thank you for this. It is one of the few anti-vax stories that seems to have merit.
It's not anti vaxx it's pro truth. The term "anti vaxx" is government propaganda designed to mislead people. Just about everyone has had plenty of vaccinations, but question a new experimental one Thats like saying someone is anti car. You mean a pinto or telsa?
Watch this:
brandnewtube.com...
Here's the peer reviewed study:
www.ahajournals.org...