So here's why I think mask don't stop fuzzballs

Let's say fuzzballs are carried in micro water droplets. Indeed, they are so small they can act as water condensation nuclei. Let's assume you breathe moisture containing fuzzballs onto a mask. Sure, the mask will initially catch the moisture. But at room temperature the moisture will not stay on the mask forever. It will eventually evaporate, taking fuzzballs off the mask and into the surrounding air. In the air micro water droplets are too light to fall to the ground and remain suspended in the air as a form of mist, a ground level cloud if you will. Here are two videos showing the effect of mask on moisture breathed out.

originally posted by: ResistanceFighter
Let's say fuzzballs are carried in micro water droplets. Indeed, they are so small they can act as water condensation nuclei. Let's assume you breathe moisture containing fuzzballs onto a mask. Sure, the mask will initially catch the moisture. But at room temperature the moisture will not stay on the mask forever. It will eventually evaporate, taking fuzzballs off the mask and into the surrounding air. In the air micro water droplets are too light to fall to the ground and remain suspended in the air as a form of mist, a ground level cloud if you will. Here are two videos showing the effect of mask on moisture breathed out.

Here's why you're wrong:

www.youtube.com...

Basically, at the scale of viruses, every surface is sticky (due to things like Van Der Waals forces). When a liquid droplet lands on the fiber of a mask, the liquid can evaporate, but a virus (and other dissolved solids) can't. So, even when the droplet has evaporated, everything solid that was in it is still attached to the fiber.

a reply to: 1947boomer

Seems your claim is unfounded. If water vapor can leave, why can't viruses?

It's the medical BS community preserving and promoting this fake mask agenda. I can go anywhere I want, but if I have a doctor appointment or in any kind of medical setting; I have to fake mask on, why? They say "trust the Science" But "Science" says mask cant help the spread of covid 19 or any variants?

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a reply to: 1947boomer

N95 is good but it is too expensive for the masses to use on a daily basis. It costs about 10 bucks a piece and cannot be used more than once because the moisture breathed onto it dissipates the charge after a single use. KN95 does not have charge but is cheaper at 3 bucks a piece, still too expensive for the masses to use on a daily basis. The only mask cheap enough for the masses to use on a daily basis is surgical mask or its fancier variations.

a reply to: ResistanceFighter

I find stinky places like gas station washrooms almost unbearable with a mask on.

Maybe it’s just me, but man, I find the aroma way worse.

Wonder why that is?

Surgical masks don't really do much thats not to say they do nothing but the effectiveness of the basic surgical facemask has been in question long before covid

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

At best they redirect air this may make the area that your breath travels less in distance but it would be the same volumetric wise as little air acctualy will be filtered bye the mask

There is no positive air preshure against the mask material there for there is no power to the actual filtering of particulates

To sum it up there is no possible way to filter air with the current facemasks we have none... literaly none are made to filter exhaled air

This could be done and be done cheap yet hear we are without that solution seems odd considering it might acctualy work

a reply to: ResistanceFighter

Masks stop large droplets. They do not stop fine aerosols.

Large droplets are produced ONLY DURING SYMPTOMATIC STATE when you are coughing or sneezing.

Fine aerosols are what are supposedly produced during asymptomatic state.

The entire reason we are told we need to wear masks is to protect others in case you are asymptomatic. But they don't.

If you are symptomatic it may stop some droplets from infecting others. Wearing one for yourself will only help you if you are directly coughed or sneezed on. Large droplets fall to the ground rapidly.

Oh and wearing cloth and surgical masks increase the chances of Influenza Like Illness (ILI), which includes coronaviruses.

And masks cause mouth breathing. Nose breathing produces Nitric Oxide which is highly effective against coronavirus infection. There is a NO nasal spray that Israel brought to market (IIRC).

Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.

Conclusions: This study is the first RCT of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. This is an important finding to inform occupational health and safety. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection. Further research is needed to inform the widespread use of cloth masks globally. However, as a precautionary measure, cloth masks should not be recommended for HCWs, particularly in high-risk situations, and guidelines need to be updated.

A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers. BMJ Open 2015

Airborne transmission occurs only when infectious particles of

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: ResistanceFighter
Let's say fuzzballs are carried in micro water droplets. Indeed, they are so small they can act as water condensation nuclei. Let's assume you breathe moisture containing fuzzballs onto a mask. Sure, the mask will initially catch the moisture. But at room temperature the moisture will not stay on the mask forever. It will eventually evaporate, taking fuzzballs off the mask and into the surrounding air. In the air micro water droplets are too light to fall to the ground and remain suspended in the air as a form of mist, a ground level cloud if you will. Here are two videos showing the effect of mask on moisture breathed out.

Here's why you're wrong:

www.youtube.com...

Basically, at the scale of viruses, every surface is sticky (due to things like Van Der Waals forces). When a liquid droplet lands on the fiber of a mask, the liquid can evaporate, but a virus (and other dissolved solids) can't. So, even when the droplet has evaporated, everything solid that was in it is still attached to the fiber.

If what you say is true, then masks are what's causing the breakthrough cases. How could you not catch covid with it literally in your face full time?

a reply to: network dude

In his face, in a warm moist environment. Perfect breeding conditions for many pathogens. Breeding and mutiplying. Reinhaling it over and over, straight into his lungs.

How more directly can you make youself ill?
Then don't forget the constant touching ( now pathogen is on their fingers) and wearing them around the chin ( neck maskers) or the one ear danglers making sure it's all spread around.
Plus these stink rags are lying on the floor everywhere I go, full of some stranger's incubates.

Meanwhile normal, healthy people have their mouth area exposed to sun uv light which kills all dodgy critters, don't constantly touch their gobs, don't spread their spit to their chins, don't dangle their spit from their ears and don't throw away billions of old rags that are now killing wildlife and fish.

It's obvious which choice makes sense and which is the dumbest thing since hitting youself with a brick on the head.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: ResistanceFighter
Let's say fuzzballs are carried in micro water droplets. Indeed, they are so small they can act as water condensation nuclei. Let's assume you breathe moisture containing fuzzballs onto a mask. Sure, the mask will initially catch the moisture. But at room temperature the moisture will not stay on the mask forever. It will eventually evaporate, taking fuzzballs off the mask and into the surrounding air. In the air micro water droplets are too light to fall to the ground and remain suspended in the air as a form of mist, a ground level cloud if you will. Here are two videos showing the effect of mask on moisture breathed out.

Here's why you're wrong:

www.youtube.com...

Basically, at the scale of viruses, every surface is sticky (due to things like Van Der Waals forces). When a liquid droplet lands on the fiber of a mask, the liquid can evaporate, but a virus (and other dissolved solids) can't. So, even when the droplet has evaporated, everything solid that was in it is still attached to the fiber.

If what you say is true, then masks are what's causing the breakthrough cases. How could you not catch covid with it literally in your face full time?

Not to mention wearing masks for long periods seriously damages eyesight by concentrating germs which otherwise quickly disperse into the air around the face and the eyes area.

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originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: ResistanceFighter
Let's say fuzzballs are carried in micro water droplets. Indeed, they are so small they can act as water condensation nuclei. Let's assume you breathe moisture containing fuzzballs onto a mask. Sure, the mask will initially catch the moisture. But at room temperature the moisture will not stay on the mask forever. It will eventually evaporate, taking fuzzballs off the mask and into the surrounding air. In the air micro water droplets are too light to fall to the ground and remain suspended in the air as a form of mist, a ground level cloud if you will. Here are two videos showing the effect of mask on moisture breathed out.

Here's why you're wrong:

www.youtube.com...

Basically, at the scale of viruses, every surface is sticky (due to things like Van Der Waals forces). When a liquid droplet lands on the fiber of a mask, the liquid can evaporate, but a virus (and other dissolved solids) can't. So, even when the droplet has evaporated, everything solid that was in it is still attached to the fiber.

Unless you can specify the capacity of these masks, YOU ARE WRONG.

If the masks are stopping and holding things, then how long until they are full and shed virus at the same rate as no mask?

You dont know because the info is not pertinent because masks dont stop airborne disease. Non Disposable REPIRATORS do (only when used EXACTLY as required), but most of the population does not know the difference.

If masks worked, we would have time limits on sharing a 15x15 room with strangers VS a 50x50 room. We do not because this is faith based BS for democrats who failed science.

Masks do not work. The other way you know for sure, there would be statistical analysis after statistical analysis with talking heads showing reduced numbers per capita with mask mandates, and the news would harp on it all day every day forcing other places to enact mask mandates out of fear. They do not because the data does not exist, but if they worked, you could easily get the data at this point. Between the amount of people we have to statistical analyze, then all of the cities with mask or no mask mandates with comparable demographics, crossed with hospital data, death rates, all broken down into age groups, who stays home, who goes to work. The data is there, and people ARE looking at it to try and scare the masses, but the outcomes do not support masks doing anything at all. Not even a 1% change.

THE DATA DOESNT EXIST OR WE WOULD NEVER HEAR THE END OF IT. YOU ARE MAKING A FAITH BASED ARGUMENT AND CALLING IT SCIENCE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BELEIVE IN MASKS LIKE KIDS BELEIVE IN SANTA.

originally posted by: ResistanceFighter
Let's say fuzzballs are carried in micro water droplets. Indeed, they are so small they can act as water condensation nuclei. Let's assume you breathe moisture containing fuzzballs onto a mask. Sure, the mask will initially catch the moisture. But at room temperature the moisture will not stay on the mask forever. It will eventually evaporate, taking fuzzballs off the mask and into the surrounding air. In the air micro water droplets are too light to fall to the ground and remain suspended in the air as a form of mist, a ground level cloud if you will. Here are two videos showing the effect of mask on moisture breathed out.

You could at least have given me credit. I have been making that argument for well over a year, and you are the first person to ever repeat it that I have seen. I posted it here yesterday for the first time. I started arguing this on page 3

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: markovian
Surgical masks don't really do much thats not to say they do nothing but the effectiveness of the basic surgical facemask has been in question long before covid

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

At best they redirect air this may make the area that your breath travels less in distance but it would be the same volumetric wise as little air acctualy will be filtered bye the mask

There is no positive air preshure against the mask material there for there is no power to the actual filtering of particulates

To sum it up there is no possible way to filter air with the current facemasks we have none... literaly none are made to filter exhaled air

This could be done and be done cheap yet hear we are without that solution seems odd considering it might acctualy work

Surgical masks are really really good at one thing. If you are leaning over something for an extended period of time, and are worried about contaminating it with little drops of spit from talking, they are awesome. If we are social distancing and practicing basic hygiene, none of what a surgical mask can accomplish actually matters. Its symbolic.

They do ZERO to prevent airborne disease. They are not filters.

N95 are filters with 0.3 micron holes. Viruses get as big as about 0.12 micron at most. Bacteria are 0.3 micron and some bigger, thats why if you can get an N95 to seal, it is good for sweeping out an old factory with heavy dust and rat poop getting into the air, but it will not filter anything in the air itself below 0.3. Thats one of the reasons 3m has always put right on the box, 'not for the transmission of airborne pathogens', or something like that.

Personally, I bought a gross of blue masks in February of 2020 when I saw this coming. I knew they were going to do mandates, but I also knew it was a waste. I own a whole bunch of 3M cartridge filters for real respirator masks that actually filter things from the air like small particulates and organic acids, things that would kill you if you thought an N95 could save you. Thats why I have known for many years that an N95 (common drywall mask) would not do anything.

A whole bunch of Americans know this is a fact, they just are scared to pop their heads up to say it with the current freedom lover whack a mole going on by the fed.

a reply to: TrollMagnet
According to the artical I linked they dont even attribute to a large decrease in infection but do cause a increase in accidents

And I'm fairly shure in 2050 it will be known as one of the largest medical mistakes in history kinda like how we look back on the 70s

a reply to: ResistanceFighter

When the water evaporates the viral particle is attached to the mask.

The CDC just recommended all gullible people over age 18 get booster shots.

www.cnbc.com...

Next logical announcement will be, those who have gone more than 6 months since their vaccination are now unvaccinated. And subject to all the fines and punishments that come with that designation.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: ResistanceFighter

When the water evaporates the viral particle is attached to the mask.

There is no evidence of this claim.