Sex Slave Ring Operated by Israeli Organized Crime

Amnesty International and the US State Department are investigating what appears to be a massive sex slave ring in Israel. By some estimates, between 4,000 and 6,000 women have been sold for as much as 10,000 dollars a piece within the last four years. Most of these women are being 'imported' from Eastern European countries, and forced into prostitution where they recieve only a fraction of the profits from their activities.



Prostitution is widely regarded as the oldest profession in the world, yet even in modern times, we find the most civilized of nations still contributing to the darkest side of this multi-billion dollar industry, sexual slavery.
For Israel, this raises serious questions from the global community. Often claiming the moral high ground in the world's geo-political arena, this recent investigation has brought to light a serious issue that desperately needs to be addressed and dealt with. How can we continue to impose our beliefs and our sense of morality on the Eastern World in light of the hypocrisy of decrying their culture's positions on womens rights as immoral, while we openly support countries that engage in sexual slavery?

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(edit for headline accuracy)

[edit on 28-3-2004 by SkepitOverlord]

while we openly support countries that engage in sexual slavery?

Excellent. Does this mean that we can pull out of the UN because it runs
sex slave rings in Indonesia? And pull out of the UN because it's refugee
camps have 1/4 of the children being victims of child pedophiles? If you
are calling for us not to support Israel because of this, then we should
stop support for the UN , and the Netherlands, and Eastern Europe,
and Indonesia, and Africa .... all have massive sex slavery problems.
Heck, Africa has SLAVERY in general. Best pull our Peace Corps folks
out!

Seriously ... I must be missing something (like a whole bunch of
overactive hormones). I just don't get why the world is so obsessed
with crude unloving sex. Guess I'm getting too old or something ...

Report: Israeli sex trade industry amounts to over US$1 billion per year
Thousands of women are being smuggled into Israel, creating a booming sex trade industry in Israel that amounts to over US$1 billion a year, a parliamentary committee said on Wednesday.

According to ynet, findings showed that some 3,000 and 5,000 women are smuggled to Israel each year and sold into the prostitution industry, where they are constantly subjected to violence and abuse.

The report, issued annually, said some 10,000 such women currently live in 300 to 400 brothels throughout Israel. They are traded for about US$ 8,000 – US$ 10,000, the report said.

The U.S. State Department ranks Israel in the second tier of human trafficking around the world, saying the Jewish State does not maintain minimal conditions regarding the issue but is working to improve.

Most foreign prostitutes in Israel come from Ukraine, Moldova, Uzbekistan and Russia and many are smuggled in across the Egyptian border.

© 2005 Mena Report (www.menareport.com)

BTW, that's one of the reasons Germany has blocked immigration by jews : they are too heavily involved in the sex slavery business...

[edit on 28-3-2005 by krotzkrotz]

How can we continue to impose our beliefs and our sense of morality on the Eastern World in light of the hypocrisy of decrying their culture's positions on womens rights as immoral, while we openly support countries that engage in sexual slavery?

Maybe you read the article wrong? It's either that or you are intentionally engaging in misleading readers. I'll go with the first because I don't think you're the type to do the latter.

Your article mentions that there is a current parliamentary investigation into activity that is being performed by a "CRIMINAL UNDERGROUND" for millions of dollars. These are the words of your article, not my words.

So your point here is that Israel is engaging in sexual slavery because there is a criminal underground in the country involved in it?

I'm sorry, was that a serious point?

There are criminal undergrounds in my own beloved Manhattan, run by Asian groups in which girls as young as 10 years old are working 16 hours a day on sewing machines. There are groups in Mexico that are selling their own 12 year old sons and daughters to wealthy tourists who wish to engage in activities illegal in their own homelands. Rings exist for prostitution activities in Amsterdam Prague and Budapest as well. Were you under the impression that those rings were ok, but the Israeli one isn't? Were you under the impression that the girls in the other cities, and the toddlers in Mexico were being given great pay packages, benefits, and new cars? How naive.

As FlyersFan said, some nations like Indonesia and, quite honestly, more than half of Africa are doing the same thing.

Now, according to your article, some in the Israeli parliament are trying to close down such illegal criminal elements. Instead of supporting them in that effort you wish to cut off ties. Logical? No. Not in the least.

The United States has problems of its own, and many cities, like New York, have worked out to shut down such operations. It's generally considered a good thing in my neighborhood when some unethical bastard is carted off in cuffs and you see 100 kids who've been abused coming out into daylight for the first time in their lives stepping away from the sewing machines and getting a chance at a real life. Perhaps this problem exists in Israel too. Perhaps someone is now trying to shut it down as well.

So explain to me twitchy, why single out Israel for this sex trade problem when dozens of other countries have the same activities going on? Speak out about the others. Are the others launching Parliamentary investigations like Israel has? No, not that I've seen. Yet we should only cut off Israel, right?

Additionally, I'd like to know where you get off calling Israel a "Country that engages in sexual slavery" because of a criminal element. By that logic you should be out in the streets calling every nation in the world a criminal nation because like it or not every nation has a criminal element. We blame crimes of those elements on nations now? Or only for Israel?

Anxiously awaiting your response.

EDIT: krotzkrotz, I don't think there's any place on this forum for those type of comments. Reevaluate.

[edit on 3-28-2005 by Djarums]

Djarums, you have a poor understanding of the Immigration policies of Israel. You don't just walk into Israel, and immigration is strictly limited to those of Jewish faith, yet these women are imported to Israel by the thousands. That, by common sense alone, would be indicitive of governmental collusion.
As to singling Israel out, by their own accounts, they are god's chosen people. They above all others in the world have received the blessings of God almighty himself, so you'd think that given the sanctity of their beliefs, they would be the last to engage in human sexual slavery. Perhaps the Talmud gives them this right?
It's an issue of moral hypocrisy, yes other nations engage in the 'sex trade', however, there isn't a coalition of international forces in Tel-Aviv enforcing the rule of law there either is there? Perhaps there should be.

Djarums, even if there are huge prostitution netwroks in the US, France, Russia and most countires of the world that does'nt mean that they are ENCOURAGING or SUPPORTING or ALLOWING slave-trade networks.

First of all there's a huge difference between prostitution and slavery -or even sex slavwery-, a distinction ethat both Twitchy and you don't seem to get. Pimps do not OWN prostitutes, neither do they sell them for a few thousand box to perverted people. Some own them only in an indirect way, like "honey, you get banged by that guiy and I give you a special rebate on your next heroin fit"- kind of thing. There are many prostitutes who also do it on their own... and by conscious choice.

And there's the issue of Israel having huge sex-slavery networks without the government appearantly doing nothing against it...

First of all -and that's a very important question, which the news article fails to approach- WHO are these sex-slaves that are being managed and owned by Israelis? The answer is quite obvious I guess... as slavery comes in great part from the absence of protection from civil rights and Law on individuals, so only PALESTINIAN womens don't have status and rights which are recognized by the Israeli state!

Also, why is it that we have come to a situation where the US, AI and mroe importantly the Israeli opposition party are the only ones who are able to awknowlege and disclose the existence of such networks in the Isreali society? Maybe because the government would be involved into covering up the thing... hey?

Of course there's not much proofs or evidence, as of yet, of the involvement of the actual Israeli regime into sex-slavery trades, but the facts somewhat speak for themselves...

Well, I can say fact seems to have been ignored in this thread entirely.

Echtelion, you are wrong about some of your points:

1) I guess you forgot all the stories we read about prostitutes who decide to leave their "pimps", even in the US who are either beaten and forced to continue their practice, or simply killed on the side of the street. Some do join "by conscious choice", but if you think they can simply leave" by conscious choice" you are either horribly mistaken or deluding yourself.

2) According to the "MENA Report" quoted above...

Most foreign prostitutes in Israel come from Ukraine, Moldova, Uzbekistan and Russia and many are smuggled in across the Egyptian border.

Where was the part about it being Palestinian women? Oh right, that doesn't exist either.

3) You and twitchy keep saying the government is directly involved in this, while you proceed to ignore the fact that your own sources acknowledge a Parliamentary inquiry initiated by Israel with the intent of stopping this practice.

Twitchy, you decided that Israel's immigration policies prove that the government allows and encourages this crap. Unfortunately you also ignore the above quote which indicates that the women have been SMUGGLED across the egypt-israel border.

Then again, one statement you made makes me wonder if I should even continue to argue this:

Perhaps the Talmud gives them this right?

Twitchy, if you are interested in arguing facts, that's great. If your interest lies in making remarks about religious texts that you have never read, save for some mistranslated statements, and use them to back up your trashing of the secular government of Israel, then you're wasting your own time here.

Make up your mind, either you're trying to discuss this sex ring problem or you're trashing ancient Jewish texts. Let us know which one.

Ignoring the drivel some members posted above, and RETURNING TO THE TOPIC here is the summary of the arguments.

I believe that based on the government's inquiry into the problem, Israel is letting us know that they are interested in ending this terrible problem. I believe that the US and others should be supporting Israel in ending a WRONG practice. You believe that we should cut off ties from them. Fair enough?

[edit on 3-28-2005 by Djarums]

*sigh* this from the same folks that say we have no right to invade a nation when their spec-ops "terrorists" cause murder and mayhem? That we cannot blame the organizations that deliberately and openly support such henious activities?

But we're supposed to get all anti-Israeli and anti-Jew over this? And not anti-Egyptian, or anti-Russian for them supplying the victims?

All or nothing, people. I can understand the desire to blame an entire nation for the problems of it's criminal underground, but you have to do that blaming with *all*, not just one nation.

Otherwise, you're looking for excuses, to justify your propaganda.

Sex slavery is a major problem in Israel.
The US even put them on a 'tier 3' list and that's a major thing for the US to do since they usually support Israel no matter what they do.

state.gov
Israel (Tier 3)

Israel is a destination country for trafficked persons, primarily women. Women are trafficked to Israel from the New Independent States (specifically Moldova, Russia, and Ukraine), Brazil, Turkey, South Africa, and some countries in Asia.

The Government of Israel does not meet the minimum standards for combating trafficking in persons, and has not yet made significant efforts to combat the problem, although it has begun to take some steps to do so. The Government recognizes that trafficking in persons is a problem, but devotes limited resources to combating it. NGO's and some concerned government officials have criticized the Government for failing to undertake vigorous efforts against trafficking, especially given the occasional violent methods of traffickers and the significant numbers of women who are trafficked into the country. In June 2000, the Knesset amended a 1997 prostitution law to prohibit the buying or selling of persons, or forcing a person to leave their country of residence to engage in prostitution. The penalties for rape and violation of the 1997 prostitution law require roughly a doubling of the sentence if the victim is a minor. The Government has convicted one trafficker under the new legislation. The Government has provided training to immigration officials at Ben Gurion airport. The Government has not formally begun cooperation with other governments on trafficking cases, but has worked with Ukrainian officials on one trafficking case. The Government has not conducted anti-trafficking information campaigns or other efforts aimed at prevention. Little protection is provided to trafficked persons. Victims of trafficking are detained, jailed in a special women's prison separate from other female prisoners, and deported. Victims who are willing to testify against traffickers may be granted relief from immediate deportation, but the Government does not actively encourage victims to raise charges against traffickers. Israeli NGO's have encouraged victims to take legal action. Some victims have accused individual police officers of complicity with brothel owners and traffickers. The Government provides limited funding to NGO's for assistance to victims.

Jerusalem Post
Less worth celebrating are Israel's reported 3,500 annual rapes, 220 murders, 13,000 drug use arrests, 10,000 drug trafficking arrests, not to mention an internationally notorious sex trade. Earlier this year, Haaretz's Ruth Sinai reported the number of brothel visits in the country at one million per month. This, in a country with fewer than three million adult males, including foreign workers.

Jerusalem Post
There are between 1,000 and 3,000 women in Israel who are subjected to sex slavery, and there is an intensive commerce in women in the country, say editors of the most recent survey conducted by the Knesset's Center for Research and Information examining the public's attitude toward trafficking in women.

"Nobody knows exactly how many there are, but I would add another 0 to that number. The figure is probably more like 30,000," argues Annette Collins, founder of the women's self-help group Anachnu Shavot ("We Are Worthy") and one of the organizers of this week's international conference on the sex industry.

Amnesty International

The Israeli government has failed to take adequate measures to prevent, investigate, prosecute and punish human rights abuses committed against trafficked women. In general, trafficked women are effectively treated as criminals by the various Israeli agencies with whom they come in contact, rather than as victims of human rights abuses. This is so even though many of them have been subjected to human rights abuses such as enslavement or torture, including rape and other forms of sexual abuse, by traffickers, pimps or others involved in Israel's sex industry. Trafficked women come into contact with many different Israeli governmental agencies, but there appears to be no coherent governmental policy to combat these human rights abuses.

2004-08-14-Israel-a-Human-Trafficking-Haven (Fox News).wmv

EDIT: It seems they have made some arrests:

MosNews
10 members of the network were detained in a joint police operation over the weekend. The investigation began a few months ago, when several suspects were arrested in Jerusalem on suspicion of smuggling women from former Soviet republics into the country to work as prostitutes, the paper reported. A Russian police official told the NTV television channel that some of the women also served as surrogate mothers.

During the investigation, one of the network’s leaders, Israeli citizen Shota Shmalashvili, nicknamed Tarzan was found in Moscow.

He and other members of the criminal group were arrested on suspicion of smuggling over 100 women across the Egyptian border over the past few years and selling them to escort services and brothels in Israel at a price of about $7,000 per woman.

[edit on 28-3-2005 by AceOfBase]

You have voted Djarums for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.


....Djarums, it is good to know you are out there somewhere.

In response to Phugedaboudet, this isn't propoganda, much of this information is comming from Israeli sources.

Originally posted by Djarums
If your interest lies in making remarks about religious texts that you have never read,

You would be suprised at what I have read. I do little else but read and have devoted now fully two decades of my life to reading, and what formal education I have had was majored in literature. You're the one who has turned this topic into something more extravagant,

why single out Israel for this sex trade problem...Yet we should only cut off Israel, right?... where you get off calling Israel a "Country that engages in sexual slavery"...Or only for Israel? (picking on poor Israel...ad nauseum)

My motive, if you must define one and would like to classify it as such, is simply to propogate a simple truth, that it's high time Israel began to answer to and be held accountable for their actions in the world community. Like everyone else is. Take a look at the UN, every single time a vote has come up to even so much as censure Israel, the US, singularly, has blocked it. There are bombs falling and soldiers marching in many arabic and other countries, at this very moment, in the name of the higher morality and decency of the western world. How can we expect them to live up our standards when apparently our standards are thusly represented?
Yes, for naught else, I agree with you on one thing, back to the actual issue....


[edit on 28-3-2005 by twitchy]

I am going to be as honest as I can, but I am horrify that Israel has this type of things going on I though that, the country was regarded high for having so many holy sites in their soil when it comes to religion.

How come US has not said anything about it, but it has called other countries in south American evils for allowing prostitution of young girls.

Where is the US outrage about this problems.

I am just in a daze about all these.

Originally posted by marg6043


Where is the US outrage about this problems.

Do you not think it is happening here also?

Originally posted by Djarums
EDIT: krotzkrotz, I don't think there's any place on this forum for those type of comments. Reevaluate.

[edit on 3-28-2005 by Djarums]

Where's the problem ? Germany is currently revoking immigration priviledges for jews exactly for the reason that they are too frequently that they are involved in some kind of mafia/human trafficking activity. Is that a racist policy according to you ...?

Originally posted by SpittinCobra

Originally posted by marg6043


Where is the US outrage about this problems.

Do you not think it is happening here also?

You know what after posting the above I started to wonder about the same thing, I think this is going to be some dirty business that some in the US is profiting from it also.

while we openly support countries that engage in sexual slavery?

Typical anti-Israel\anti-Semitism, singling out Israel when this is a world wide problem including the USA (there are over 4,600 in the US, which is not a lot when compared to other nations)

hasn't anybody watched 48 hours
CBSNEWS\48 hours\sex..

Israel should be praised for doing an parliament investigation while many other countries (including major US allies) do nothing.


[edit on 28-3-2005 by 4USA]

This is awful

It might start cutting into the Muslim slave trade in Africa if left unchecked

Or the Indonesian Child Prostitutes
Or the Russian Mafias Sex slave rings
Or the..... well you get the idea.

Can you name ONE country this doesnt happen in?

Or does it just upset you when the "Dirty Jews" do it?

[edit on 28-3-2005 by Amuk]

Originally posted by 4USA

while we openly support countries that engage in sexual slavery?

Typical anti-Israel\anti-Semitism, singling out Israel when this is a world wide problem including the USA (there are over 4,600 in the US, a very low number compared to other nations)

Why stating the fact that israel is the number one western slave trader singling out "israel" ? Get out of your zionist media hype for a second. Israelis are prominently involved worldwide in slave trade. Or how else do you think israeli slave industry numbers in the billions ? That would be over 500$/year/capita or using a sex slave once per week/capita (referring to russian prices). Imagine the same ratio in a western nation, f.ex. the USA. It would total to over 150 billion dollars. Give it western prices and it will turn out around 600 billion dollars. Imagine that crazy number ?!? Germany is blocking jewish immigration for a good reason, give that a thought...


[edit on 28-3-2005 by krotzkrotz]

Germany is blocking jewish immigration for a good reason, give that a thought

Yes, let's block all immigration of a religious group due to the actions of a criminal element in a country. You have no idea what you're saying. First off, not all "Jews" are "Israelis" and second, not all Israelis are involved in this scandal. Please, again, reevaluate what you say before making blanket statements that come off as being racist.

I am just in a daze about all these.

Marg, the only thing you're in a daze about is the apparent difficulty you have of blaming anyone other than the US and Israel for things like this even though they take place damn near everywhere. I'd like to see your criticism of Mexico and Thailand for example for their filthy practices of not busting those who whore out their 12 year old daughters. Is that ok since it's not America or Israel?

It's crystal clear. Amuk put it very well, it goes on everywhere and needs to be stopped collectively. Singling out Israel does nothing except get you more posts on this site yapping about how horrible Israel is.

At least Israel has taken some actions against it as posted by AceofBase. I can name you 10 other countries that haven't, and yet you ignore those because it's not Israel. Thanks for adding to the transparencies of your thoughts. Makes it more and more clear every day why some people post certain things.

AceOfBase's quote from the Jerusalem Post speaks volumes:

Jerusalem Post
* * * This, in a country with fewer than three million adult males, including foreign workers.

One million brothel visits per month in a country with fewer than three million adult males, including foreign workers, strongly suggests that this problem is no mystery in Israel and that it is deeply embedded and accepted in Israeli society.

It's an issue worth bringing to light. I applaud Twitchy for doing so. There are some on ATSNN who are died-in-the-wool Israel supporters and who will pounce on anyone who dares criticize our Israeli masters.