Approaching the Magic Hour...

Hi ATS,

I had an interesting experience tonight. I performed a small ritual, a simple divination in fact, which I did fully under the authority of God, without any reason other than it was the right time to do it, based on the signs in the world, the dreams I have, and the open vision I had at church on Sunday.. So, I initially utilised an online 'Urrim & Thummim' type 'yes/no' random generator, and to my two questions I received a 'yes', which had been what I was hoping for. But then I realised that there was a chance, albeit a very small outside one, that some other person or agency (artificial intelligence even) could have had some influence over those results. As a result, I decided to repeat the divination by totally analogue means, something that literally only God could control in a meaningful way. I decided to flip a coin. I flipped twice. On the first time, the coin bounced off my thumb on my right hand & landed heads-up in the crook of my right arm. It was basically a trick shot. Second flip was pristine – must have spun forty times high in the air, landed heads-up on my hand. I took this as a two for two sign that my questions (two of them) had been answered in the affirmative. I only flipped once per question, because I was full of conviction that God would answer in a single toss with a yes or no. As I knew I would receive an answer (an intuition based on the circumstances), I didn't toss twice per question to provide for a 'no answer' result.

On another thread (the one about the Astroworld diabolism) there were some hisses & claws out regarding magic, and how/why it should be used. Someone said that the servants of Christ also use magic, but God takes care of the details of that magic, so the servants don't need to learn the formal rules of magic in order to achieve the results that were intended. The person in question asked “Therefore, what's the difference between them wielding magic & myself wielding magic?” Now this is a pretty stupid question, because the obvious answer is - “If the omniscient, omnipotent Creator decides to issue forth some magic, you can be certain that it will serve the highest good of the circumstances, and it will bless the people who are its intended recipients, without hurting anyone in the process. The person chosen as the channel for that 'divine magic' (miracle) can be assured that he/she did nothing wrong, and that there's no way he misinterpreted God's perfect will with regards to the matter in question. If a person decides, on the other hand, to learn all the arcane, formal rules of high magic, there is never a guarantee that they're using it properly, even with the best moral outlook, with the right intent, in the right circumstances, or that they're achieving the right result, without hurting someone or some situation, and there's therefore no guarantee that you didn't just create some sort of mess which will require cleaning up.

If there's regular magic, and God magic, wouldn't you want to be certain that you're doing it how God intends for it to be done?

As for the matter of why magic isn't a straightforward tool that anyone could & should use, well, anyone could use it, but they certainly should not, in almost all circumstances. This is because although magic was something we originally would have been intended to discover on our own, this world has been infected with a darkness (a rebellion of high powers) which pollutes even the noblest intention when there is not a sustained will to serve God's will. So when people say they only do white magic, it's like saying you're a star which radiates light to the universe – but in actual fact you're situated next to a black hole, which warps even the light which manages to just about scrape past the outer edge of the event horizon, the minority portion which does not get sucked into oblivion within the heart of darkness. Warped light does not allow a true rendering of the image, and therefore is detrimental to the realm of pure spirit, where only absolute truth & virtue will do. If our light is warped in transit, we are misrepresenting what is in our hearts, and there's an analogy to be had which is to say that the light, being warped, misrepresents Reality, and thus opens up the possibility of leading someone into gross error. The only light which can avoid the gravity well of the infection at the core of this system is the light which is not radiated from a source within this system, and therefore cannot be warped in the same way, as it filters directly through to its target without any deviation whatsoever, and makes manifest exactly what is supposed to be the outcome. Warped light from within a finite source in this system can only create warped representations of what was intended, even when the intention is clear. Clear light from above & beyond the system creates a true representation, and even a slightly cloudy intention in the human aspect of the equation is okay, because clear & true intention accompanies the light – we are just the relay that calls for the light.

I believe that we are now in a time in this world when the 'ancient future' Thunders will begin to sing, and their mystery will be made known. Human life & the human spirit are being assaulted by the heart of darkness & those that serve its noxious pull.. New things are about to happen in the world, because the sin of the evil ones is now piled so high & their corruption of the fabric & peoples of this world so complete, that without some of that clear, true light, everything will be lost. We're approaching the magic hour, I believe, when the Truth will become known for the radiant, wonderful mystery that it is, serving total freedom, enabling totally full & satisfying life, destroying the intent of the Devil's carnival sideshows (such as the ASTROWORLD Diabolism), and putting that heart of darkness in a box forever. It won't be an easy time, but I believe it will be a liberating time, for those who value Truth, and all the attendant virtues which accompany divine love.

Cheers,


FITO.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment
That's not magic, that is playing games of chance and calling it God's will. Of course without the proper ritual - Enochian even if that is what floats your boat, literally any spirit or entity can gain control of your experiments. I say this out of concern.

Tossing a coin and random yes no generator is not damn magick, buddy.

a reply to: AfterTheGoldRush

I see your point, but Urrim & Thummim was a simple ritual which depended upon God being sovereign over the universe, to the point that by His providence, he could control the outcome of a coin toss, or its equivalent with the gemstones. I believe He is sovereign over the toss of that coin. I asked Him to provide an answer in the toss of the coin. So you could call it a prayer/faith ritual or whatever, the point is, my intention was set, I asked & trusted that there would be a simple answer, and I accepted the outcome. So whether it qualifies as magic, it's immaterial, because my will was submitted to the will of God, I was following my intuition in undertaking the task, it seemed right based on a myriad other reasons - one of which is that I have literally nobody to turn to in helping me to answer the two questions I asked (no, I will not share the details, it's extremely private), so I turned to God. I have enough confidence in my relationship with God that under these very specific circumstances, what I did was the only way to answer the questions.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Are you using universe time when predicting the magic hour? That could be centuries from now.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment
You have absolutely no idea what you are doing. A random generator, missing the Enochian rituals is not magickal or reliable. Try a pendulum, but I doubt whether you would be able to open a circle, invite the correct Angelic entities and lock out the bad ones. You are laarping. That is all. I just hope you don't open yourself or your home to evil things.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

The only problem is that God only answers questions and gives us answers when HE feels like the timing is right for us to receive them. There is no guaranty that an answer you receive upon your demanded timing is going to be that of God's, but only time will tell. Were either of your questions related to timing?

I'll be curious to see if you experience more waking visions. I'm assuming that's what the last paragraph of your opening thread was about?

a reply to: Deetermined

Yes, the questions were both related to timing - questions that I have wrestled with for eighteen months in sharp relief, but for years in fact, prior to the unfolding of the plandemic. And I concur that unless the time is right for the revelation, then there's no guarantee that the questions have been answered by God. But due to the vision/s of Sunday, and following certain events in the world recently, I'm confident that the time to ask the questions was now.

As for the previous poster referring to the opening of magic circles, I simply wouldn't want to do that in any conceivable version of my reality - God speaks in a different way to people who walk a different path.

a reply to: AfterTheGoldRush

You seem to think I'm trying to practice magic. I was referring to magic as a slightly more open concept than your strict interpretation allows for. I'm comfortable with my choices in this regard, and I trust in God for protection, not the tracing of circles.

Buddy if you are such a good christian, you know NOONE KNOWS THE TIME OR THE DAY.....Perhaps if you have having visions and feeling a need to go against what your book says, you might like to consider that you are being fooled by the big trickster...Magick is not games of chance. Best case scenario you are getting confirmation of your own mental delusions. Worst case scenario, you are being #ed with. ...a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Didn't the Bible have something to say about divination?....


Leviticus 20:27
“A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.”


Jeremiah 14:14
And the Lord said to me: “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I did not send them, nor did I command them or speak to them. They are prophesying to you a lying vision, worthless divination, and the deceit of their own minds.

originally posted by: olaru12
Didn't the Bible have something to say about divination?....


Leviticus 20:27
“A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.”

It appears that passage is referring to someone channeling or trying to resurrect the dead. Is that what divination is? I was under the impression it is some sort of 'reading the tea leaves' type process if you will. Not my thing, but they don't seem to be of the same thing as I am looking at it.

Edit: I see you added a passage. That at least appears to reference something similar though it could be read as in regard to a specific incidence of prophesying as I think I've heard of other prophecying in the bible that seems accepted. Again, it's not my area of expertise at all though. Just going by what you posted.

The Bible is part corrupted, part eviscerated, part lies, and a little truth. It is meaningless gobbledygook at this point. But still...live by the sword die by it. Tossing a coin is no more divination than rock paper scissors...or using an only yes no generator with a vaguely biblical name...Games of chance is about the exact opposite of divination. a reply to: Halfswede

a reply to: olaru12

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the biblical prohibition referred to in your quotation is specifically against 'divination by means of calling upon the dead' - as 'raising' spirits of the dead is what mediums and necromancers do...

...so, divination by prayer and tossing coins is probably okay.

originally posted by: lostgirl
a reply to: olaru12

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that the biblical prohibition referred to in your quotation is specifically against 'divination by means of calling upon the dead' - as 'raising' spirits of the dead is what mediums and necromancers do...

...so, divination by prayer and tossing coins is probably okay.

I guess it's all up to personal interpretation; And that's a slippery slope....

originally posted by: AfterTheGoldRush
The Bible is part corrupted, part eviscerated, part lies, and a little truth. It is meaningless gobbledygook at this point. But still...live by the sword die by it. Tossing a coin is no more divination than rock paper scissors...or using an only yes no generator with a vaguely biblical name...Games of chance is about the exact opposite of divination. a reply to: Halfswede

In regards to the first assertion you made, may I ask who taught you that? Or where you learned such a philosophy? Is this fact or conjecture? Asking for a friend.

a reply to: AfterTheGoldRush

What Is the truth then in your eyes?

Flipping a coin isn't divination. A magic 8 ball isn't divination. Drawing a random card from a deck isn't divination. Opening a fortune cookie isn't divination. Making a paku paku origami toy isn't divination. What do all these things have in common? People who spend 5 minutes on the internet Googling fun party tricks because they are ignorant.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
Flipping a coin isn't divination. A magic 8 ball isn't divination. Drawing a random card from a deck isn't divination. Opening a fortune cookie isn't divination. Making a paku paku origami toy isn't divination. What do all these things have in common? People who spend 5 minutes on the internet Googling fun party tricks because they are ignorant.

Dude, it IS the fortune cookies... they are always right.... LOL

But in all seriousness, there is no need for this. We know the way, The Truth, and The life.

Nothing else truly matters.

Exactly. A lot of time, effort, study, personal risk and devotion goes into the practice of divination. I would not dream of asking a 'time' question related to Armageddon, and if I was prepared to ask, I would expect 'crickets' in reply. Tossing a #ing coin! You have to be kidding me! A yes no generator! For crying out loud! a reply to: TzarChasm

Not comfortable replying to that one. a reply to: hopeisasound