Covid or not: an alarming signal?

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: zandra

Could it be that more people are getting very sick and that the mrna vaccine is the culprit?

Not the vaccine but the delays in treatment for people with existing conditions , clinics and routine operations have over the course of the pandemic been delayed and long ques have built up so those needing treatment have been forced to wait making their ailment worse.

Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms. Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among other conditions.

The medical response to this virus was terrible, the government messed up bad with this virus. People at the top of the agencies controlling this pandemic did a lousy job and are really cherry picking which information they are calling real. I have been following medicine since I was young, and although I did see some problems in the past, nothing compares to the screwed up response to this wimpy virus. Already in May of 2020 they had identified lots of natural ways to manage this disease and designed some expensive patented meds off of the food chemistry that disables this virus, but the side effects of the meds were a problem. There are simple organic chemistries that can help to keep this virus from causing major harm, but they didn't share this information with the public even though public funding did pay for verifying the effectiveness.

We need to get rid of the people at the top of these agencies and put in people with less desire to profit from medicines and who will actually let people know the truth about antiviral chemistry in our food supply that will reduce risk. Desire for prestige, wealth, and power at the top of these agencies is causing a lot of problems.

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: zandra

Could it be that more people are getting very sick and that the mrna vaccine is the culprit?

Not the vaccine but the delays in treatment for people with existing conditions , clinics and routine operations have over the course of the pandemic been delayed and long ques have built up so those needing treatment have been forced to wait making their ailment worse.

Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms. Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among other conditions.

The medical response to this virus was terrible, the government messed up bad with this virus. People at the top of the agencies controlling this pandemic did a lousy job and are really cherry picking which information they are calling real. I have been following medicine since I was young, and although I did see some problems in the past, nothing compares to the screwed up response to this wimpy virus. Already in May of 2020 they had identified lots of natural ways to manage this disease and designed some expensive patented meds off of the food chemistry that disables this virus, but the side effects of the meds were a problem. There are simple organic chemistries that can help to keep this virus from causing major harm, but they didn't share this information with the public even though public funding did pay for verifying the effectiveness.

We need to get rid of the people at the top of these agencies and put in people with less desire to profit from medicines and who will actually let people know the truth about antiviral chemistry in our food supply that will reduce risk. Desire for prestige, wealth, and power at the top of these agencies is causing a lot of problems.

But muh insider trades....

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a reply to: gortex
I've been thinking about it again in the meantime and of course I searched for what I wanted to find (I'm human, you know).
Actually, I should also post everything the vaccine advocates say. But I am overwhelmed by it. Therefore it only makes sense to ring the other bell (I hope this saying exists in English). Then, of course, I come to the "abhorrent" anti-vaxers. Which I'm starting to understand more and more. To the point: There is also an overcrowding of hospitals in Australia and no one knows why. Is it a result of procrastination or is there something else going on? Because apparently the hospitals in the parts of Australia least affected by Covid are also overcrowded.
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a reply to: gortex

It seems to be feast or famine, or selective areas of damage.

You know none, and I know personally, at least 6 people that have had adverse side effects a few weeks or days from receiving the vaccine. Two of my friends that I love dearly, and were the first to get the vaccine. These two different friends got their Mothers vaccinated. Both doing well, and both suddenly collapsed and died, a few weeks after receiving the vaccine.

So if seems some are lucky and some are unlucky.

a reply to: zandra

Covid or not: an alarming signal?

the NWO/ Elites/self appointed Central Planners/ the 'Beast'-group of 10 Mega-Pharma Corps. ==> have 100% deliberately 'muddied-the-waters' concerning Corona & COVID at every step of the way

does that course of action by the group which has seized Leadership of the 'declared Pandemic' ...raise eyebrows and cause me to question the 'Official Mandates & Need for an experimental-Vaxxine to be administered to All workers and children residing in America & territories ?


quit telling us the package wrapped in Jersey Mikes Submarine paper is not actually a dead Cod Fish, slowly stinking up the refrigerator

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: homerJ
What irks me the most out of this is that nobody has stood up and said: " well why arent we funding our health systems properly?

The better question should be, "Why are we still paying CNAs and LPNs poverty wages?" RNs aren't the only nursing staff out there, but they're pretty much the only ones remaining anymore. Nobody wants to check vitals, man bedpans, get smacked around, for less than a burger flipper gets anymore. $15 p/h at Taco Bell, I think the CNA average nationally is about $13 still.

I can answer that question. I will try to give the short version, because I could write a book if I delve into the true meat and potatoes.

We should start with the fact that nurses were not always paid so poorly. We had a short lived time when we were paid well. Back around the time that insurance companies were courting doctors and hospitals, that brief time when they were setting down their roots. Before they revealed their toxic invasive nature, and they took over control of the medical field. My Mother's old adage of, "He who pays, says", is demonstrated perfectly in the history of health insurance in America.

Traditionally, for many years nurses were women. They were mothers, and often single mothers. They became nurses to care for their children.Then we have to look at the fact that for decades, nurses were not just caregivers in their career field, but in their community and homes. Nurses were loving, compassionate, caregivers for home and community, they were relied on by all, and that was used against them.

Every time the insurance companies strong armed the doctors and hospitals, the nurses salary was dropped. Nursing was almost the only career field where each year the new members to the fold got paid less than the nurses that came before. It did not take long before the pay differences were noticed. But just like now, even then, the fear of losing their jobs was too strong for them to fight back against being robbed blind.

Back when I started in the field, over 40 years ago, it is very common to treat the human members of the community, sometimes their animals as well. All that to say that back then doctors and nurses were welcomed, valued, and respected members of the community. Not so much today. In fact workplace violence is a serious problem among medical workers.

Medical workers are disrespected, demeaned, attacked, stalked, threatened, and not paid nearly enough to put up with the crap they get on a daily basis. With the aggressive push for tele-medicine , we can expect it to get a lot worse.

a reply to: St Udio
All of you: please take a deep breath.

The graph (see link) shows the average number of deaths over the period from 2015 to 2019 in the Netherlands (blue line). The red line shows the number of deaths in 2021. The yellow line shows the number of deaths from Covid in 2021. What stands out? The number of deaths has risen alarmingly in recent weeks. I honnestly don't have a clue of what is going on. (Btw: the graph is no fake news)

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Question: Will the booster shot bring the solution?

a reply to: Nyiah

Ask among others Medicare and Medicaid who tell health providers accept this payment or nothing.

originally posted by: zandra
a reply to: St Udio

Question: Will the booster shot bring the solution?

If I keep giving you aspirin to relieve the pain of your chopped off hand. At some point the pain will go away.

Either it worked, it healed, or you died.

In all three cases, the establishment will convince you that the aspirin was a safe, and effective solution.

Of course, you can always ask the question, "Solution to what?"

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: gortex

No no no gortex I don't think you understand. I read this
today in the comments section on you tube of all places.

Russell there is some of your honest journalism needed in how many school kids are just dropping down dead : 2 from the same school in 1 week this week and so many more.

source

People everywhere are saying this I hear it in truck stops bars casinos.

People young boys are dying after being vaccinated. Others are getting
very ill and may not survive. You wouldn't be hearing all of this if the
vaccine was a good thing.

I think you've hugely missed the point of Russell Brand's video.

a reply to: Whodathunkdatcheese

The persons you tube comment had nothing to do with the video.
And everything to do with this thread. But at least you're amazing.

a reply to: gortex

Of all the people I know both through work and in my personal life who have taken the vaccine none have so far suffered any issues with the vaccine other than the initial unwell feeling following the shot.

And it may sound gullible but I believe you. Just like I believe the
people reporting blood clots and heart failure. Even if for no other
reason than the sheer volume of people I've talked to personally.
And accounts I've read about. As I can easily see a government
conspiracy going on before I can imagine one rising up out of the
general population. To thwart a vaccine that's perfectly fine.

And that was how I felt before mandating it for our children. Who
for the love of God would do such a thing? And how can anyone who's
pro-vax blame me for wanting to protect children from this madness.
They want to turn our kids into jabber walkies and for what? So they
can die of a blot clot, heart failure or a fentanyl overdose later?

FFFFFF#$K THAT!

The better choice is clear to me and it differs from yours which
is the whole reason people should be left alone to make their
own decision. Come what may. Government wouldn't give a
damn if there wasn't tons of money involved. It's the only reason
they get their big asses in the way. To bad for the Americans left
in Afghanistan if they were only worth billions.

I can give you a billion perfectly rational reasons why I have no faith
and put no trust in the idiots running this world. And it makes me
wonder about people who do. I suppose it is easier to just relent
and let them be their gods. What ever they say goes, even if it's
the death of them all. Well I just wasn't built like that so I must
respectfully refuse.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: zandra

Could it be that more people are getting very sick and that the mrna vaccine is the culprit?

Not the vaccine but the delays in treatment for people with existing conditions , clinics and routine operations have over the course of the pandemic been delayed and long ques have built up so those needing treatment have been forced to wait making their ailment worse.

Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms. Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among other conditions.

This is the elephant in the room. But for the sake of argument it’s fair to say that delayed treatment and vaccine complications aren’t mutually exclusive. The former is undoubtably true and only time will tell regarding the latter.

a reply to: Randyvine2

The better choice is clear to me and it differs from yours which
is the whole reason people should be left alone to make their
own decision.

I agree it's a matter (or should be) of personal choice Randy , I have chosen not to be vaccinated at this time but can see why some people with conditions that put them at risk need to be , I also agree that vaccinating children is the wrong way to go , I'm not in favour of that either.

It's a strange world we live in these days my friend.

a reply to: gortex

It is indeed and it's getting worse. I wake up now and
want to look for my world but I know it's gone and isn't
ever coming back. And even so that agitates the hell out
of me? I will always smile when someone calls me friend.

The money is in the treatment not in the cure.

This is and always will be the truth as long as the acquisition of wealth is our main goal.

a reply to: Randyvine2
Thumbs up.
Germany is on alert. Those who oppose the vaccines are called extremists. And the epidemic that is there now is called the epidemic of the unvaccinated. I think most unvaccinated are not anti-vax, they are against mrna. And I think they are right.
Riot is looming in Germany.
Personally, I think Germany (and Europe) should aprove Covaxin (India) as soon as possible. Covaxin has nothing to do with mrna. It even includes a Toll Like Recepter Agonist. It thus stimulates the innate immune system as opposed to mrna. The WHO has approved Covaxin. But, as always, there will be opposition. My next shot will not be mrna, that's for sure. I rather go to jail. Hope I have internet there.

originally posted by: zandra
a reply to: Randyvine2
...I think most unvaccinated are not anti-vax, they are against mrna.

Reminds me of the witch hunt over MMR jab for kids. Many of those opposed weren't anti-vax, just anti giving kids 3 different vaccines all at the same time. Yet those who stood opposed were all tarred with the brush of being an anti-vaxxer.

a reply to: Nyiah
Intent may have been good? Nobody can seriously think these adverse events and deaths were accidental given the huge amount of money and time spent on MRNA research. They knew thanks to animal studies what would happen. This is a depopulation event designed to assign blame elsewhere by a multitude of various ailments that occur at various lengths of time after the jab. If we don't arrest those pushing this agenda and try them for genocide it will continue until the remaining are too few, too poor and too weak to resist whatever authoritarian measures they want to use.

Hi, my name is Ezequiel, I'm from Argentina, sorry for my English. I wanted to tell you that two months ago we have been seeing in Argentina, those of us who are more awake, cases of very famous people, actresses, singers, celebrities on TV and athletes who were vaccinated and who ended up dying of heart attacks or who had aneurysm or thrombosis and several survived but ended up with stents. many with completely clogged arteries who did not have covid but were vaccinated. We have never seen so many cases reported on TV of similar cases and of young people as well as older people. Many people deny that it is because of the vaccine. but it is what these people have in common. and I repeat, in a single week we saw 2 or 3 cases.