The Fight for Election Integrity Continues -- Audits, Criminal Investigations, Legislative Reform

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: IndieA

Machines or Paper, there is something about "Who Counts the Vote" that our President Biden is obsessed over.

Source:
www.realclearpolitics.com...

Not just "Who Counts" but "Where" they count and "How" they transport the "UNCOUNTED" ballots (from)😀

Has current Gov Doug Ducy congratulated Kari Lake, like he congratulated Dim Joe Biden in 2021?

Way to go Joe!: twitter.com...

Doug Ducey will likely campaign for Democrat Katie Hobbs the next few months.

If Kari Lake wins in November and investigates Ducey's ties to 2020 election cheating,

Boom .

a reply to: carewemust

So long as government secrecy programs don't continue to cover-up the truth. If that happens, there's little hope left in my mind.

a reply to: IndieA

I worry about that too...

Uhhhh What! The YEAR IS 2022 not 75000BC 🤣


Election Director Resigns After ‘Comprehensive Failure’ on Primary Day in Arizona County: RNC

An election official from an Arizona county has resigned after allegations of voter irregularities and a ballot shortage on primary elections day.

The Pinal County government confirmed that “David Frisk is no longer in the position of Elections Director and is no longer employed by Pinal County” in a statement on Thursday–two days after Arizona’s primary election day—after a shortage of ballots on primary election day and thousands of early ballots were sent to the wrong voters leading up to the primaries.

Frisk was in charge of ordering the right number of ballots for primary election day, Jeffrey McClure, Chairman of the Pinal County Board of Supervisors, told reporters in a press conference on Wednesday.

“I’m not sure how the ballot shortage happened,” McClure said. “We opened the boxes, and there weren’t enough ballots.”

a reply to: xuenchen

Hmmmmm...

Official says formulas for how many ballots to order came from Hobbs' office

AZGOP Twitter
I don't know if this is true or not. I should think it could be confirmed or refuted easily enough tho...

It should also be easy enough to confirm if an appropriate number of ballots were ordered... and received.

Until I see that, I'm gonna wonder if this isn't just the first fall guy.

Wow!

Something else that should be easy to confirm is the number of dead voters reported by the Maricopa county auditors.

The preliminary kinematic artifact detection report says that the number that was reported was 5470.



But AG Brnovich says only one dead voter out of the 281 reported, voted.

Also noteworthy:

Half of Sharpie Gate was telling election day voter to use Sharpies, the other half was election officials not supplying the proper ballot paper to the election workers and leaving it up to them to source their own paper. Now it seems as though someone, or someone's may have been caught following the same formula.

a reply to: IndieA

Something else that should be easy to confirm is the number of dead voters reported by the Maricopa county auditors.

With a little bit of luck and a few prayers thrown in, Abe Hamadeh will be elected AG in November, and he'll have access to everything Brno now has access to. And everything Brno has done and not done.

But Hamedeh might actually do something about it!

a reply to: IndieA

This made me think of your experience, Indie, and wondering if you would have encountered a similar situation if they hadn't dropped you.

DETROIT: Poll Challenger Thrown Out Of Counting Center For Challenging Ballots and Internet Connection To Computer...Demands Detroit Police Officer Arrests Men Who Broke The Law! [VIDEO]

Disturbing how much power police/LE have to arrest the little people and so little power to arrest the masters....

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: IndieA

This made me think of your experience, Indie, and wondering if you would have encountered a similar situation if they hadn't dropped you.

DETROIT: Poll Challenger Thrown Out Of Counting Center For Challenging Ballots and Internet Connection To Computer...Demands Detroit Police Officer Arrests Men Who Broke The Law! [VIDEO]

Disturbing how much power police/LE have to arrest the little people and so little power to arrest the masters....

That was an interesting read and video, thanks for posting.

My situation has some distinctions:
I'm trained as a worker not a challenger, and I'm in Florida and not a major Democratic city like Detroit. I'm also in a relatively small county.

Still though, this story kinda paints a picture of what both election challengers and workers could be up against across the country.

I know that I would have a hard time "just following orders" if I was told to do something that I thought violated the law or was just outright wrong.

A little schadenfreude, anyone?

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers Loses Decisively After Testifying Against Trump

As if the headline was the worst of it.

During the 2022 Legislative Session, despite Bowers’s effort to block even the most modest election integrity bills in the wake of the controversial 2020 General Election, conservatives managed to get important bills through.

An audit of the election, conducted through the Arizona Senate, found that President Joe Biden had won, gaps in chain of custody for ballots, and other security issues were identified and recommendations for improvement were made.

Those recommendations met with ridicule by Bowers and his House staff, who were often cruel to and targeted House members they held
in contempt.

This guy is the holdout -- and deciding vote -- that stopped the AZ Senate from arresting the Maricopa Supervisors when they refused to comply with the audit subpoenas for election records and documents.

He played every dirty trick he could to prevent election reform bills from passing, or even getting a hearing -- much less a vote.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

a reply to: Boadicea

Another distinction between my situation and the that of the challenger's, would be that I don't see any evidence of federal involvement, not that it's not there.

The "men in black" are clearly seen in the video as employees of a private security firm. That doesn't mean that federal agents aren't in the mix, but I don't see any evidence that they are.

In my situation, I've been trained as both an election worker and as election security (poll deputy). I have had no involvement with any politicial parties, or tried to volunteer as a challenger. The federal aspect comes into play because of the federal information they attained about me through an appearant additional background check, and them claiming that I was disqualified at least from the security position. I did learn that the public is allowed to watch the opening and closing of the polls, so I may go and do that once or twice. Our early voting starts on August 13th and election day is August 23rd.

All this reminds me of how there was a push from within the federal government to federalize state ran elections. I think the bill was being called something like "one election." I found it. Here it is:

www.congress.gov...

And although this bill hasn't passed, it seems that there has still been changes made that federalize and secure our elections at a federal level through the DHS and CISA programs.

A report about this program was published in October of 2020, and can be found here:

www.google.com...://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2020-10/OIG-21-01-Oct20.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjBxpPt2rL5AhXkQzABHa7 QA2UQFnoECAwQAg&usg=AOvVaw1RJR38MgAJm31rNMZxhjhZ

About the machines:

I had said that the ballot marking devices seemed secure since they basically mark the ballots for people, but I found a note, and I remember that there can be issues with them if the touchscreens are not properly calibrated, and the calibration option always comes up upon start up. There are other safeguards in place, like the DS-200 tally machines will ask to verify the votes, but those machines aren't ADA compliant, so I'm thinking there could be a venerability here, where nefarious election workers could take advantage of ADA voters. Hopefully, I'm wrong and this has never happened.

I got to be trained on a brand new DS-200. During our training, a few of the machines jammed after only running a few ballots and we were shown how the clear a jam. It required two people, one on each side of the machine, and we were told that if we lost a jammed ballot that the machine hadn't counted, it would be lost forever and with no recourse, even though the paper ballot was included with the others, technically becoming a part of the election record.

We were told that the machines were brand new and had a piece of foam in them that hadn't been removed yet was causing the jams, and that this would be cleared up in time for the election.

I saw the firmware version that the DS-200s were operating on, and today I decided to try to find out if it's the most updated version. I haven't found out for sure yet, but it does look like I might have been trained on old software, but even if that's true, it doesn't mean that it won't be updated before the election.

What I did find, is this old DS-200 operator guide:

www.google.com...://haywoodtp.net/pubII/ES%26S-SystemOverviewEVS5000-SOP00-OperatorGuideForDS200.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjC6-fV1rL5A hX0nYQIHeanBOgQFnoECAMQAg&usg=AOvVaw07LyjJspXcbAA1xB383P01

This older systems operating procedures:

www.google.com...://sos.idaho.gov/elect/clerk/DS200%2520Procedures/U3400_SOP00_DS200.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjC6-fV1rL5AhX0nYQIHeanB OgQFnoECAoQAg&usg=AOvVaw2FVD7QnJNKnRn99p4ZbbKz

And this old maintenance test proceedures document:

www.google.com...://vote.nyc/sites/default/files/pdf/evs/10_ESS_Quarterly_Maintenance_Procedure.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjC6-fV1rL5Ah X0nYQIHeanBOgQFnoECAgQAg&usg=AOvVaw2phbg6F9ADxY1ltvQrEXuI

I'll likely look these over when I have more free time.

I'm still trying to understand if the DHS, CISA, or CIS are directly monitoring our election result transmitting networks and to what degree.

There has been evidence presented, and reports, that monitoring of real-time election results and voter registration records have been used to manipulate the 2020 election results and records.

I found this on my election supervisor's website:

Network security, and physical access protocols, and best practices are based in part on recommendations from our partners at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), and Center for Internet Security (CIS). Utilizing partner services, our public network is scanned continuously for network vulnerabilities, and we have deployed an Albert server which continually monitors our network for abnormal activity. In addition, we utilize strict chain of custody procedures to ensure the security of all election materials and election related hardware. Physical security is obtained using a variety of electronic measures 24 hours a day.

I'm not technical enough to be able to fully understand what's going on here or the possible vulnerabilities involved. They did admit to using a public network up until 2018. Now they are using a network called Verizon Private Cloud. Maybe they haven't updated this part of their website, or maybe they aren't talking about the private network side of things.

I liked the chain of custody practices that were in place, which included posting tally slips inside of the polling places at the end of election days. They also mentioned using encryption to transmit the election great, which does a great job of protecting those results from anyone who doesn't have the encryption key.

There's also a long list of security protocols listed that end with this:

Elections are conducted on a local level in all 67 counties in Florida. Safeguards are established in law. Elections office staff and poll workers belong to different political parties and have diverse backgrounds. It would be impossible to engineer this complex system to benefit a specific candidate or party.

I would have to argue that nothing is impossible, especially after everything we saw in the 2020 election, much of which is documented or referenced here.

My conversations with my election supervisor were always face to face, friendly, peaceful, respectful, and calm.

At one point, after discussing how unusually high voter turnouts can be an indication of ballot stuffing and why, I was telling the supervisor and her security guy that their system seems much more secure than in other places like Maricopa County, and I shared some of what was found there. I had mentioned that with respect to the media and federal government, it seemed clear to me that, the perception that our elections are secure was much more important to them than actual integrity. The supervisor didn't say anything, and the security guy disagreed with me. I didn't say anything, but thought to myself, "that's fine, that's your opinion, I just shared with you my well researched understanding."

This continuation of the above statement from their website supports my point:

Sadly, there is an unwarranted sense of fear among some of our citizens— that is as dangerous to our democracy as a compromised election! I have total confidence in our voting system and our processes, and you can too. Our elections are safe and secure!

I would argue that a compromised election is far more dangerous to democracy, than that of the concerns or fears that an election is, has been, or will be compromised.

Compromising elections directly relates to the compromising of democracy, where as, being concerned or fearing that either are being compromised, is what is needed to alert people to issues that can be addressed and corrected in the future.

Concerns about elections can be used to help strengthen election integrity, thus strengthening democracy. The only thing compromised by election concerns is the perception that our elections are secure.

In defense of my election supervisor who is a nice lady, she had mentioned that she had received some threats, but didn't go into detail.

Many counties across the country, have links on their websites where voters can check on the status of their ballots, as well as their registration status. In some cases, voters can actually see when their ballots were sent and received.

Voters who decide not to vote, may want to check their registration status, and or ballot status to ensure that it hasn't somehow been cast and counted without their knowledge.

My county only stores these records for one year, so unfortunately, it's too late to check on the status of 2020 ballots.

a reply to: xuenchen

When I explained to my election supervisor that it had come out that "Sharpie Gate" was human engineered, that after a Sharpie policy was in place, election officials failed to provide election day workers with the proper ballot secure paper, leaving them to sorce their own paper which turned out to be thin, she said that, she found that hard to believe.

Well, here we are seeing the very same thing again. I hope she's paying attention.

a reply to: IndieA

Thanks, Indie. I'm going to read this again and respond later tonight when I can give it the proper attention.

a reply to: IndieA

I would argue that a compromised election is far more dangerous to democracy, than that of the concerns or fears that an election is, has been, or will be compromised.

Compromising elections directly relates to the compromising of democracy, where as, being concerned or fearing that either are being compromised, is what is needed to alert people to issues that can be addressed and corrected in the future.

Concerns about elections can be used to help strengthen election integrity, thus strengthening democracy. The only thing compromised by election concerns is the perception that our elections are secure.

Additionally, a compromised election may involve fraud that is unknown, or undedicated by election workers, creating an increased risk to the safety of those innocent and honest election workers, since they are first in line to be blamed for any irregularities, even those that may have happened behind the scenes.

a reply to: IndieA

*Undetected. ^^^^^

I might as well share this just to be safe, but I'll be vague and keep the details to myself for now, since this is a private matter, and it's not election related, as far as I know, but I guess it would be if I have become targeted.

Today I had a lover (ex-lover) possibly attempt to entrap me into a minor offense, in such a way that could have brought felony charges. The whole thing was odd, I told her no right away, explained why somewhat, tried to direct her to safer alternatives, and she got upset and now seems to want to have nothing to do with me.

I've know this person for many years and, besides her nagging nature, would have never expected this kind of behavior from her.

Like I said, this could easily be nothing, but this whole event strangely reminded me of some of the odd events that led to my bad conduct discharge, over 20 years ago, so better safe than sorry.

Oh and for the record, I am not involved in anything illegal, I am of sound mind and body, and I am not depressed or angry. I just continue to be a concerned citizen trying to do what seems right.

This woman is persistent. A mother of 4, who rarely leaves home and lives one town away, is still texting me and now saying that she is, oddly, in town.

I have asked her to leave me alone and told her that maybe we can talk later. She told me to loss her number. I said okay.