I literally don't understand how people are this misinformed.

Someone made a comment on a thread about the vaccines and how many cases of coronavirus there are vs. deaths. compared to the vaccine. Well as we all know, this deadly virus spreads asymptomatically, that's why they tell everyone to wear a mask, not just sick people or people with a positive test.

So I asked them this:

So how many asymptomatic cases who haven't been tested because they have no symptoms and don't realize they are infected should we be adding to that number of cases total? I am not talking about pre symptomatic. I mean literally asymptomatic. It does spread asymptomatically right? That's why everyone has to wear a mask, right?

And get this as a response:

Why would you consider someone who has no symptoms, and has not tested positive for COVID-19, as a 'case' of the illness?

What is to differentiate it between someone who just doesn't have COVID-19 at all?

And in a critical care situation, is the guessed at number relevant at all? I could see how it impacts on epidemic spread, but it's not relevant to the situation where you are accounting for the number of people who die of COVID-19.

This is from one of the usuals. You know what i mean. The people with the answers to everything. Sounds like asymptomatic spread doesn't exist so people with no symptoms shouldn't have to wear a mask, correct?

Or can anyone with this viewpoint explain to me why on earth people with no symptoms are being told to wear masks by all the medical "experts" and government officials. Can anyone explain? I'm begging someone to explain.

If asymptomatic spread of the virus does not exist why is everyone wearing a darn mask!?!?!?!?

Let's not forget that we are wearing the mask to protect others. Not to protect ourselves. At least that's what the "experts" say.

How many rich, famous, celebs have died from Covid..

Ah but was the asymptomatic spreader vaccinated?
Filthy unvaccinated are the only asymptomatic spreaders who count.
You know the drill from the Branch Covidians,common sense just ain't common anymore.

a reply to: wlee48868
Not as many that have died from AIDS due to their promiscuous and deviant behaviour.

a reply to: glen200376

I just almost can't stand these people. They are so smug. They pick and choose what part of the comment to reply to. Notice I didn't get an answer to my question of whether people with no symptoms shouldn't wear a mask. But I sure did get some idiotic explanation of a question I didn't ask. We all know that according to the "experts" it spreads asymptomatically, and that obviously is a danger according to the "experts". That is the entire basis for all the mask mandates. It just seems like people will go to any length to continue and justify the confirmation bias.

originally posted by: wlee48868
How many rich, famous, celebs have died from Covid..

Not enough in my opinion.

Oh my gosh I found another one, different usual, same misinformation lol...

If I were putting a product out on a market this big and this high profile I'd do my absolute level best to make sure that I ended up on the right side of history.

If this shot is found to be dangerous, even in 10 years time, it will DESTROY the companies that released it. They might have immunity today, but if a million people turn up dead because of their product they sure won't have immunity in the future because all that it would take is for one first world country to have a government that decided to revoke it and that company would be obliterated on the stock market, and its name would be so tarnished that nobody would want to do business with it ever again.

Ok. explain to me how the US government is going to revoke the pharmaceutical companies' liability protections when these vaccines were produced under the PREP act of 2005 which excludes any pharmaceutical company from any tort claims due to these vaccines because we are in a public health emergency. Plus vaccine injury claims are already paid by the federal government, not pharmaceutical companies and have been since the 1980s because big pharma was losing their butt on vaccine lawsuits. Here is their website:

It was created in the 1980s, after lawsuits against vaccine companies and health care providers threatened to cause vaccine shortages and reduce U.S. vaccination rates, which could have caused a resurgence of vaccine preventable diseases.

Any individual, of any age, who received a covered vaccine and believes he or she was injured as a result, can file a petition. Parents, legal guardians and legal representatives can file on behalf of children, disabled adults, and individuals who are deceased

www.hrsa.gov...

I mean, these people must not be in America or they must not even watch 5 minutes of the news in their lives. I was 11 years old when the PREP act happened and even I heard about it and knew it was shocking corporate socialism. Way back then. Just because of a public health emergency the government can make you take whatever drug they want and nobody is responsible for the side effects? Bad stuff. I don't understand these people.

a reply to: Chalcedony

That's not misinformation, those are actual, valid points - and earlier quotes have valid questions that you do not answer.

People are not misinformed, they're brainwashed, but not on the side you point to.. I guess you don't like freedom, it's more fun to have government to tell you what you should think, even if they have no evidence, right? Just do as they tell you, and you're happy.

It's ironic how someone like that talks about OTHERS being 'misinformed' - well, better 'misinformed' and healthy than blindly believing in the lies and vaccines, poisoned by both.

The only people who freak out over less than 1% of anything dying or failing are engineers and scientists where being off by a small about can cause serious problems like a rocket crashing or a rover smashing into Mars.

Less than 1% of the population dying from a virus is not a serious problem. Not even worth worrying about. If people refuse to to accept and face up to their own stupidity then the best thing to do is ignore them. Let them ruin their lives, businesses and be completely miserable. I moved on a long time ago. Not wearing a mask, getting a shot, not watching TV, not reading their news.

Until more people start doing this it will not end. Some living under strict measures will have to break it in numbers and get arrested to the point they can no longer contain the movement. Basically stop living in fear. Once that stops this all goes away.

a reply to: Shoujikina

Ok. So maybe you can explain to me why we are making people who have no symptoms and no positive test wear masks indoors? What is the deal with the mask mandates? I mean if asymptomatic spread doesn't exist why is everyone having to wear a mask. The mask is to protect others, not yourself.

No in fact I wish there was very little government. Just trying to wake people up. If the branch covidians claim that the number of cases is accurate and we should not account for asymptomatic cases, then it is as if they do not exist. So if they don't, why are we making people who are not sick wear a mask? This also affects calculating the mortality rate. Obviously if you don't have any idea how many actual cases there are, you can't calculate a mortality rate.

Also can you explain why anyone is assuming that in 10 years anyone will be able to pinpoint and definitively attribute any ill effects to the vaccines? So how can we assume that anyone will be "found out" or have consequences if this thing does go south. We can't and judging by the actions of the Federal government, holding anyone accountable at any point if there are ill effects is nothing but a fairytale. Live in reality.

here are my answers to the questions posed in the comment.

1.Why would you consider someone who has no symptoms, and has not tested positive for COVID-19, as a 'case' of the illness?

A. Because it is well known that asymptomatic spread is a problem, which is the reason for the mask mandates.

2. What is to differentiate it between someone who just doesn't have COVID-19 at all?

A.That is why everyone has to wear a mask right?

3. And in a critical care situation, is the guessed at number relevant at all? I could see how it impacts on epidemic spread, but it's not relevant to the situation where you are accounting for the number of people who die of COVID-19.

A. Yes. It is very relevant. Without an accurate number of cases, how can you calculate the mortality rate of the virus?

Let me put it this way, you go on a yacht, you wear a life jacket. Why, you can swim, you wear a life jacket in case the worst happens and you end up in the water and if it's bad enough you might be in the water for hours. It's for your protection.
As for wearing a mask being asymptomatic, first mask or not, you might be asymptomatic but you will not know till you have any symptoms. As with the first cases in 2019, my son being one, the symptoms are the same as a bad case of Flu. Secondly, how can anybody come with any figures if people are unaware they have Covid as not all cases are accompanied by symptoms.
Sooner or later these people are going to have to stop wearing masks, then and only then, if Covid is still about you might see flare ups and with taking masks out of the equation, you will see if the unvaccinated or the believers in natural immunity are doing the right thing.
I've said it once and I'll say it again, big pharms, government and medical professionals (doctors and nurses). Let me make it easy for you, analogy:- big pharma makes the guns, government supplies the guns, BUT it's the medical profession (and there are millions) who are pulling the trigger. NOW, who are you gonna blame?

a reply to: Chalcedony
This could be over with a lot quicker if we just ditched the masks.

Probably just pys-ops thing. If no one wore masks then people will think it don't exist anymore.. it's a pysocological thing to benefit the TPTB

But they will say something along the lines of..if you are immune naturally or induced via a vaccine then you won't show symptoms that quickly in comparison to someone who has not had covid without immunity . So you will be walking around with it without knowing.. It's to protect others... bless them . Ain't they nice.. 🙄

No doubt it will be around until the next election then conveniently a new deadly strain will come into the media to justify mail in voting again.



a reply to: Chalcedony

You know how the Amish beat covid? They ignored it.

I found that any opinion you can have about the virus and the vaccines will be wrong in social media.

I got the virus. I got the vaccines. I cover my face when needed. Is not what I want, it's what I have to do.

Other person refuses to adapt to the situation, then karma.

a reply to: crayzeed

 As with the first cases in 2019, my son being one, the symptoms are the same as a bad case of Flu. 

I'm sorry but how do you know it was Covid?

Nobody was testing for it 2019.

a reply to: oweyoueightone2

They don't watch TV.

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Mostly it was the tell tale loss of smell that comes with covid that distinguished it early on. Honestly it was more accurate than the testing done early on too...they were doing PCR tests at 40-60 cycles which gave a metric ton of false positives. The PCR tests was meant to be no more than 25 cycles.

a reply to: RickyD

Tell tale now. It wasn't in 2019.