It has begun. Some reflections on the Beast system which we cannot ignore.

This is Copernicus and Galileo all over again.

Then there the Protestants an their protesting

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Yes, I see it coming as well.


However, the Beast system is doomed to fail : humans are not bees, and history shows that such a system, e.g. soviet communism, has a life of about 70-80 years.

By that yardstick, we should expect Chinese communism to fail sometime by 2030- we can already see the cracks in that system - the Covid crisis saved the Chinese Communist Party from the Color Revolution that was starting in Hong Kong in the fall of 2019. The CCP is doomed, the party knows this and fears it.

Finally, any system based on pain is ultimately unsustainable. All humans aspire to be treated well. No one dreams of a world of endless pain.

Supply pain for long enough and eventually revolt is the result.

History is clear.
We may suffer through 80 years of a Beast system, but ultimately freedom will win. Sadly, millions will die in the meantine...

Seriously? "Beast system"...666...Satan.....Jehova....nephilim....Chinese communism collapsing because of a wacky made up timescale of unbearable pain? Give me back my half hour...I've been robbed.

a reply to: HiddenIdentity you should open your mind more
Narrow mindedness gets you nowhere

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Hecate666

Remember, we lost Eden and perfection because that nice man you refer to wanted us all to be as gods.

His gifts come with steep price.

The serpent didn't want us to be gods [if he said so, he meant having the same knowledge as gods]. He wanted us to eat from the tree of knowledge! Why not? Why did god want us to be naked dumbasses in a guilded cage [eden]?
At best it's patronising, at worst he wanted compliant underlings. For what?
It's like the red pill and the blue pill in the Matrix.
Do you want to know the grisly truth and be yourself, or keep living the fake good life, naked and someone's pet or slave?
I'll chose the truth and knowledge and all that comes with it any time before a fake life that doesn't allow me to learn and widen my own mind.
Any time.

a reply to: Hecate666

Maybe it was never intended that we would never be given the knowledge.

Maybe Adam and Eve were babes, lacking the maturity and the experience to deal with the knowledge bestowed on them at a time they were not ready to receive it.

With guidance, support, direction, and growth, the knowledge would have been a gift.

From where we stand today, knowledge without understanding is more like a curse.

originally posted by: Jubei42
I dunno, seems to me like religious clubs are on the way out.
Imagine being rich in this world, why even bother with all these shenanigans? To what end? They've already arrived where everybody wants to be. They don't want to take over, they just want to continue.
I'm sure there are weird rich people out there, but no way they're that organised or dedicated to cult domination.

I think the issue is that they don't want to share the planet with 7 billion of us. Not enough left for them. Basic greed and the chance at some kind of immortality through science are the motivators. Their program has been put in action and nothing but their extermination would bring it to a full stop.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

interesting thread.
if everything you wrote is accurate, what can the regular person do in this type of environment?
is there any way to change the direction the world is going?

Sad to see that the thread has been hijacked by Satanists who clearly want to promote their demonic Beast system & crush any opposing view. Strange isn't it? Both sides have been doing that for thousands of years. We're all guilty of it at times.

I think all that can be said is that a system, whether it be political or faith-based, or knowledge (gnosis-based), can be known by its fruits. Satanists are frequently very intelligent, and I know that many of them know the Bible extremely well, so as to undermine its authority & power to heal (they make it a part of their mission to convert wavering believers). Christians can come across as being equally unintelligent at times, in the sense that they are satisfied with faith alone & do not seek the knowledge which will augment the journey they are enjoying through faith & community-building.

There's nothing particularly wrong with that, because again, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, perseverance (etc), and community-building is a huge & critical aspect of the Christian church's ministry to the world. We are here for each other, through thick & thin, often satisfied to hear wisdom on a weekly basis from the people within our fellowship whose job it is to gather & minister wisdom to the community. However, really, all Christians should make themselves familiar with the basic arguments which cause the collapse of the Satanic assault on their belief system.

First and foremost, is the matter of the fruits of the Spirit - in Christendom, as noted above, certain virtuous & gracious qualities, outcomes & principles are expected when a person is walking according to the light of Christ. Everything I pointed out above, and much, much more, is a guaranteed outcome of walking according to the Spirit of God, and that is accomplished through faithful study, attentiveness, prayer & fellowship. It's a simple formula, and it has worked well the world over for two thousand years & more already. The fellowship, the positive charitable impact on the wider community, the deliberate efforts of many, many ministries to help those around them who happen to be in need - this is one of the greatest testimonies which demonstrates the love of God in action.

Look, the Bible is a complex book, and one can study it for a lifetime yet still not fully grasp everything which is there to be found. It speaks to all people at all times, in all circumstances it can be found to have a powerful impact upon the mind & heart of an individual or group. Exploring its tenets, assessing its apparent paradoxes & discontinuities - it's a lifelong task. But the fundamentals - the basic tenets which almost all churches are in agreement regarding, can be found fairly easily if one is reading with an enquiring mind, with someone to guide you if you get stuck.

The Nicene Creed, for example, demonstrates the basics which most churches (Protestant at least) are happy to stand on without question. And from there, the layers of depth are continually evident as you study & listen to the wisdom of others further.

Only recently I discovered a lot more about the Nephilim bloodlines & the pre-emptive assault on the land of Canaan & the Hebrew people by Rephaim, Anakim, Amalekites & so on (Nephilim & humans, interbreeding, the offspring of the antediluvian Nephilim & the Cainite peoples who survived the flood event - there were many survivors in fact, in different parts of the world - but the posterity of Noah was recorded in Scripture because of the relevance of his bloodline to the Messianic plan of God).

As another example, did you know that God actually designated a great deal to His council of Elohim in the ancient times? One of whom was Lucifer, incidentally. There were at least two rebellions against God by the various orders of the angels, and indeed the Elohim/Anuna council were condemned for their rebellion to 'die like mortal men' because of their crimes. That's recorded in Psalm 82. These are things which most church folk really know nothing about, and indeed it's fascinating to get into it & understand all the connections between evidence from the ancient world which we can discern through archaeology, and the parallels/ explanations which are indicated in the Holy Scripture.

The Scripture is ABBREVIATED & is not intended to be an encyclopedia. It is a book principally aimed at producing humble, just, gracious, merciful, loving people, who love God & mankind, without prejudice, always emphasising the grace & forgiveness aspect of the entire faith-based adventure. If we knew all the answers at the outset, life wouldn't be much of an experience.

And again, coming back to the fruit of the S/spirit we follow - those who follow Moloch (who encouraged the people to sacrifice their children in a blazing fire - and they did so obediently, by the thousands) or Baphomet (androgynous, hermaphrodite goat beast which basically needs no explanation as to why it's not really a positive spiritual model for the people, especially not one that can be introduced to children), those who follow the pride of Lucifer, or the hatred of Satan/Saturn.. The many & varied details of these demonic systems of worship are occulted (hidden - thankfully) from the ordinary perception of normal people, only being revealed as the initiate goes deeper down the rabbit hole of debauchery & rebellion, right down to the devil's pit, from which one can perceive no light whatsoever (unless it is a cry for help to the true God of the entire universe/multiverse). The fruit of these systems is spite, enmity with God/Reality (nihilism), anger, rage, demonic possession, perversion (not saying always, but definitely in a great percentage of those who worship in such ways). Often, people who have been in thrall of these systems will eventually commit suicide, seeing no light, seeing only darkness, perhaps wondering how they got into such a frightful state in the first place. And it's all small steps down, one at a time, until you're standing over the edge of the abyss, and you barely realise who took you down, or how it came about, or why your choices led to the circumstances which got you there.

I had a good friend once who had joined the church after having been raised & ritually abused in a Satanic cult, operating hidden under the cover of civilised society in small villages, 'middle England', where everything looks like the lid of a chocolate biscuit tin - thatched roof cottages, old brick terraces with pretty hanging baskets of flowers.. But this guy was so damaged from the eighteen years of abuse & demonic oppression that he needed something like five years of regular prayer, deliverance/exorcism & close care within the church community, before he was able to build a semblance of a normal life for himself, though in many ways he remains damaged by the devastating experience. Same thing with a girl who was sent to the church by a different cult to tempt the minister into sexual involvement with her - she actually ended up manifesting with several demons when the minister began to pray for her. She realised that she was under the power of awful spiritual beings, and she immediately joined the church & gave her life to God, receiving the same sort of care/prayer/deliverance, though she had joined the cult as an adult & hadn't been abused in the same way.

The fruit of demonic systems of worship, is oppression/ obsesssion/ possession.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: Hecate666

Maybe it was never intended that we would never be given the knowledge.

Maybe Adam and Eve were babes, lacking the maturity and the experience to deal with the knowledge bestowed on them at a time they were not ready to receive it.

With guidance, support, direction, and growth, the knowledge would have been a gift.

From where we stand today, knowledge without understanding is more like a curse.

You share excellent points. I believe if I'm not mistaken, we were created, manipulated into being, for the sole purpose of a slave labor force, to replace a much older slave race. If that be the case then you don't waist perfume on pigs. In fact you would only educate them to the level and degree necessary for them to complete their individual tasks, nothing more. And you would certainly not educate them to the point that they could "know" they were slaves, and free themselves.

Maybe Adam and Eve were babes, lacking the maturity and the experience to deal with the knowledge bestowed on them at a time they were not ready to receive it.

If I am correct in the above, then, Adam and Eve, would never "Be Ready" to receive the knowledge. We were created perfectly to fulfill our function.

One thing for certain, you do not destroy an entire planet of life (Great Flood), to bestow a gift to them

a reply to: subfab

Thanks for the comment - to answer the question, sadly it seems that there is little that we as regular men & women can do to alter the course of what is unfolding, with the exception of educating yourself as well as possible concerning the many anomalies connected to the whole COVID narrative, and the vaccine mandates, and to lobby your local, regional & national political leaders regarding what's going on. Join forces with a group which is actively attacking the narrative using legal or medical professional support to do so, there are several national/international groups which are exploring such avenues, trying to get the individual nations to see the terrible fruits of what is unfolding as a direct result of the worldwide coordinated narratives.

A group such as STOP WORLD CONTROL is a good place to start, along with the testimony & efforts of Reiner Fuellmich, a lawyer from Germany who works with STOP WORLD CONTROL, an introduction to his mission can be seen here: Reiner Fuellmich talks about the COVID agenda. You can have a look at 57 doctors & scientists oppose COVID narrative, as well as Human Events - 3,000 doctors & scientists oppose COVID deception, and the last one I'll include is the New Abnormal - 100,000 doctors & scientists oppose COVID-19 vaccine

But yeah, look at joining info sharing groups on Telegram (chat app), have a look there for protest & support groups local to yourself, and get involved with the movement to oppose control & boost freedom. It may be that we can't completely stop the flow of this demonic system, but we can try to liberate as many people as we possibly can along the way.

Cheers, FITO.

PS - I deliberately didn't go into the spiritual side of things in this response, but check out my reply above to another poster, to see why there is a necessity to avoid demonic systems of worship/ cults. The COVID narrative is unfolding just like the propagation of a new cult, so it's critical to break away from these negative events. Joining a good church (a member of the Evangelical Alliance) can really, really help, and leads to an adventure that will knock your socks off.. You may have to remain fairly tight-lipped about the COVID conspiracy in many churches, but they're generally good & well-meaning people who will support you to the ends of the Earth.

a reply to: All Seeing Eye

Maybe the knowledge was supposed to be discovered independently when the time was right!

In the case of Lucifer's temptation of Adam & Eve, and in the case of the rebellion of the Watchers who descended to Mount Hermon, in both cases, knowledge was being pushed on a psychically young & unaware child race, who were supposed to live the great adventure & gradually discover everything for themselves in the fullness of time, being inducted into the orders of Elohim ultimately, perhaps (as indicated in Scripture, if you can figure out where to look). The artificial advancement of knowledge has been destructive for this planet on every conceivable level. It's hard to fully grasp that in these technological times, but the Watchers taught so many advanced forms of knowledge to the human race that it overloaded our collective consciousness & led to a total disaster, excacerbating the Fall & leading to warfare, strife & perversions, persecuted by the Annunaki/Nephilim, with consequences which echo into modern times.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

thank you for the response.
i will check out the links provided.

we have a historical fore-runner of the beast system... and that would be the NAZI Party that had power from 1921-until-May of 1945

link: www.thoughtco.com...

a first impression of the image of Hitler ...in the NAZi salute, with right arm (hand) outstretched...
give mind to the Mark being expressed in the Hand and/or the Forehead...

Hitler just oozed NAZI with every fiber of his body head & hand




the radical factions of Islam, ISIS and TALIBAN are better candidates to impose 'blue laws' than even a reprobate Vatican would, so the end-times Catholics reflect the earlier status of 'good Germans' (imho)





which brings us to today zeitgeist... the earllier nazi group focused on jews/gypsies/handicapped...

the forth-coming 'beast group' will be seeking out all 12 tribes of Hebrews/Jews...in fact this start of a Eugenics Program is to target every human individual that was 'genetically created' according to the Garden-of-Eden guidelines in that long-ago era when Angelic Scientists joined together in Gods' Human Enhancement Project to clearly divide Gods' human progenitors (adam & eve) from the Evolutionary derived Human populations that Lucifer held sway over....


that's the reason for a COVID plague to decimate populations of humans from either group (Gods or Lucifers)...later on more specific gene warfare pathogens will be deployed... we are only at the initial stages of eugenic group genocide...

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Maybe the knowledge was supposed to be discovered independently when the time was right!

And who might decide that time? And by what right? I can not support your position concerning this, the evidence suggests otherwise.



www.educatinghumanity.com...

knowledge was being pushed on a psychically young & unaware child race, who were supposed to live the great adventure & gradually discover everything for themselves in the fullness of time, being

Again, who decides?

being inducted into the orders of Elohim ultimately, perhaps (as indicated in Scripture, if you can figure out where to look).

Translated, join a secret society?

Again, your authorized KJB

Colossians 2:8 - Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

James 5:12 - But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.

Seems to me Scripture is warning us not to join groups that make you take a oath.

John 18:20 - Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.

It seems Jesus was not part of the secret Brotherhood.

So no, I cant agree with your position. Anything that was taught to us, was destroyed in the flood...

a reply to: Asktheanimals

Yeah well, that's just you talking about people in general man

originally posted by: CthruU
a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

It all boils down to our being forced to either obey certain laws of our country and disobey God, or having to violate certain laws of our country in order to obey God.

That's the real test.

If you are faithful and true to God, you'll find yourself for a short time before christ returns without a job, without the right to buy and sell, in medical apartite and towards the pointy end of the situation even facing the death penalty.

Does this sound impossible- clearly already in progress.

To receive the mark in the forehead simply means you believe it, loyal to it, to receive it in the hand simply means they go along with it- not because they believe it but because their hand was forced in order to buy and sell, keep jobs and make a living. The hand is the symbol of work and making a living.

There will of course be an outward sign (mark) whereby identification will be clear. That mark likely will be a sore of some kind.
" and the first Angel went, and poured out his VIAL apon the earth, and there fell a NOISOME AND GRIEVOUS SORE upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped the beast"

What about 666.. lets have a look.
On the popes official mitre is written " VICARIUS FILII DEI"

Using Roman numerals-
V =5
I =1
C = 100
A =0
R =0
I = 1
U =5
S =0

F =0
I =1
L =50
I =1
I =1

D =500
E =0
I = 1
----------‐--
666
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There ìs a reason why the 1260 years of the papacys rule was called the dark ages.

Once Sunday blue laws are re-inacted, its panic stations.

It could be literal. In both ancient and modern Greek, there’s just one word for the things coming out your bottom or your shoulders. ΧΕΡΙΑ and ΠΟΔΙΑ. Hair-ee-yuh and Poe-thee-uh. Χέρια means arms or hands χέρι arm or hand and just FYI πόδια/πόδι is legs or feet slash leg or foot

originally posted by: Hecate666

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Hecate666

Remember, we lost Eden and perfection because that nice man you refer to wanted us all to be as gods.

His gifts come with steep price.

The serpent didn't want us to be gods [if he said so, he meant having the same knowledge as gods]. He wanted us to eat from the tree of knowledge! Why not? Why did god want us to be naked dumbasses in a guilded cage [eden]?
At best it's patronising, at worst he wanted compliant underlings. For what?
It's like the red pill and the blue pill in the Matrix.
Do you want to know the grisly truth and be yourself, or keep living the fake good life, naked and someone's pet or slave?
I'll chose the truth and knowledge and all that comes with it any time before a fake life that doesn't allow me to learn and widen my own mind.
Any time.

A worldly fool masquerading as a metaphysician, yet, you can’t even grasp the entry-level concept of “curiosity killed the cat.”

Pride is always the downfall, Cain.

a reply to: M5xaz

However, the Beast system is doomed to fail : humans are not bees, and history shows that such a system, e.g. soviet communism, has a life of about 70-80 years.

Never heard it put quite like that; "The Beast System"? Is this an official name?

In any case, I agree the core of your message, but for different reasons.

Communism, Fascism, National Socialism, Capitalism - these are not the systems per se, they're tools. They're peanuts. Communism did exactly what it was supposed to do. It was not the underlying system, which is like a mountain, but it was just a temporary path on that mountain.

The agenda "THEY" have been building for a really, really long time, isn't going to fall just because of a rock on that mountain falls. You are also seriously underestimating how powerful technology has become, and how different technology The Soviets had. Communism isn't the end goal, it's just something used, something that's allowed to happen while the real, even more sinister agenda is built.

It's like building a secret underground tunnel network that no one knows about until half of humanity suddenly falls in and injures themselves.(This is just a metaphor, don't take it literally - there IS a tunnel network under the surface, but that's too long a story to talk about right now)

The reason why I know it will eventually fail (they can bring their evil agenda very close to 100% completion, but the Universe will eventually intervene, and it won't reach the actual final state in my opinion. I could be wrong, it's hard to predict the future) is that every system that benefits from the misery of its people is doomed to fail. It's an Universal law. Any system that's built to benefit a small group and make a bigger group suffer, is doomed to fail.

The problem is, I don't know how long it will take for it to fail. But we have been promised a saviour, we have been told to have faith, and nothing is as powerful a test of faith as living in these strange and disturbing times.

By the way, 'We live in strange and disturbing times' is actually a quote from seventies, from an incredibly good TV show, 'Yes, Minister'.

I wonder how that TV show would describe the times we're living right now..

My point is, this kind of disturbance and planetary and theaterwide horror is perfect for people's karmic needs - this planet is like a bank (ecch) where we come to pay our debts.

Therefore, even the most evil agenda can serve good, because it makes people get rid of their karmic loads so they don't have to suffer under them for all eternity.

Trust the Creator, have faith.. everything will be all right. Physical body is temporary, so its death is not a sad event, the soul is freed. Keeping all this in mind, you can easily look forward to the future with joy and confidence. The future looks bright from the proper perspective.

a reply to: Hecate666
And you my friend, have been so indoctrinated by your misinterpretation of information, that you have become the useful idiot they often speak about. Sad to see your beliefs walking among good people in this God given earth.