The Bible and Entropy

originally posted by: Kreeate

Which was : "So you accept that rape and murder of innocent people is okay? As long as it's in the name of your god?"

I already showed you the explanation:

Lol at calling the Canaanites "innocent people". It's like you only read the part of the story that fits your narrative. You gotta do the actual due diligence to discern why God wanted these people eradicated from earth. People of such might (Gibborim - same word used for Nimrod's totalitarian reign over the earth) that the whole world was falling to their power. Even more gruesome, they were giants, and the spies said "they felt like grasshoppers in their site". The Canaanites were sadistic, and sacrificed their children to gods. The holocaust of their day I would imagine.

So yeah this is equivalent to the Allied forces "utterly destroying" any trace of the Nazi empire. But I guess you would want us to have just knelt to the axis power so no one got hurt.

a reply to: Kreeate

They won't listen. Waste of your energy.

I'll give it a shot, though I know (or at least highly doubt) they will or have read this thread before (not my first time linking it around here).

God's Morality vs. Our Morality

They can't even accept that the origins of their God can be traced to the Canaanites, at least in part.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: Kreeate

They won't listen. Waste of your energy.

I'll give it a shot, though I know (or at least highly doubt) they will or have read this thread before (not my first time linking it around here).

God's Morality vs. Our Morality

Would you want a ravage race of giants terrorizing the world, or would you rather have them eliminated? Think of Nazis but they're giants.

a reply to: cooperton

What's the point you're trying to make?

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: cooperton

What's the point you're trying to make?

When a cancerous race of humans starts to take over the earth, they need to be eliminated so that peace can be returned to earth. Otherwise the entire world dies from their malignance.

The allied powers should not have simply let the axis powers take over the world because they didnt want to kill anyone. Similarly, the Israelites had to take out these giant Canaanites that were doing unspeakably atrocious things.

a reply to: cooperton

What about those verses where God commands killing everyone in a single village if even just one of them is a sinner? Is the collateral damage to the innocent acceptable to you?

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: cooperton

What about those verses where God commands killing everyone in a single village if even just one of them is a sinner? Is the collateral damage to the innocent acceptable to you?

They sent angels to warn Sodom and Gomorrah and the people of the town forcefully tried to rape the angels. Are You a rapist and Nazi sympathizer?

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: cooperton

What's the point you're trying to make?

When a cancerous race of humans starts to take over the earth, they need to be eliminated so that peace can be returned to earth. Otherwise the entire world dies from their malignance.

The allied powers should not have simply let the axis powers take over the world because they didnt want to kill anyone. Similarly, the Israelites had to take out these giant Canaanites that were doing unspeakably atrocious things.

In the end, nothing really matters... Satan is your ultimate savior. The bringer of Light. Open your heart to Satan and let Him in. It is your only salvation. You are halfway there already. Just let it happen. He is your Light. He is the Way and the Method.

a reply to: cooperton

I'm not even talking about Sodom and Gomorrah.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: cooperton

What about those verses where God commands killing everyone in a single village if even just one of them is a sinner? Is the collateral damage to the innocent acceptable to you?

They sent angels to warn Sodom and Gomorrah and the people of the town forcefully tried to rape the angels. Are You a rapist and Nazi sympathizer?

I don't think that any sane and rational thinking person could be any of those things... but your "holy" book seems to not only condone those acts, but it encourages them. Good reading innit?

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: cooperton

I'm not even talking about Sodom and Gomorrah.

It sounded like you were referring to when Abraham couldn't find any just person in the whole city, which would've been Sodom and Gomorrah. When did God kill a whole village because of one sinner?

originally posted by: Kreeate

I don't think that any sane and rational thinking person could be any of those things... but your "holy" book seems to not only condone those acts, but it encourages them. Good reading innit?

Welp, you were given the reason why, and you can't seem to properly debate it bud. Just move along and stop interrupting discussions in threads.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: cooperton

I'm not even talking about Sodom and Gomorrah.

It sounded like you were referring to when Abraham couldn't find any just person in the whole city, which would've been Sodom and Gomorrah. When did God kill a whole village because of one sinner?

originally posted by: Kreeate

I don't think that any sane and rational thinking person could be any of those things... but your "holy" book seems to not only condone those acts, but it encourages them. Good reading innit?

Welp, you were given the reason why, and you can't seem to properly debate it bud. Just move along and stop interrupting discussions in threads.

Yes, but Satan loves you. So what's your problem "bud"?

originally posted by: TerraLiga
a reply to: Randyvine2

If we're buried, we rot, digest and compost. Compounds break down into elements, and elements into atoms. It's much simpler and quicker to revert to atoms if we're cremated.

I know that your vanity and inbred or learned insecurity will have issues with this explanation, these these are proven facts. I'd like to see your proof for any alternative.

Proven facts?

This says nothing about what happens to consciousness when you die. The only evidence out there is, consciousness survives death.

When you die you know you are dead: Major study shows mind still works after the body shows no signs of life

Death just became even more scary: scientists say people are aware they’re dead because their consciousness continues to work after the body has stopped showing signs of life.

That means that, theoretically, someone may even hear their own death being announced by medics.

The claim was made by Dr Sam Parnia, director of critical care and resuscitation research at NYU Langone School of Medicine in New York City.

He and his team are looking at people who suffered cardiac arrest, technically died, but were later revived. It’s the largest study of its type ever carried out.

www.independent.co.uk...

Here's a well respected, non religious, Dr. whose job it is to resuscitate people when they're dying. Here's a couple of interviews.





How can the material brain do something simple like recall specific memories? How does the material brain tell the material brain which memory it wants the material brain to recall and why? How does the material brain initiate memory recall? How does the material brain produce awareness of qualia?

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: cooperton

I'm not even talking about Sodom and Gomorrah.

It sounded like you were referring to when Abraham couldn't find any just person in the whole city, which would've been Sodom and Gomorrah. When did God kill a whole village because of one sinner?

Not really, but all good.


Kill people who don't listen to Priests. (Deuteronomy 17:12)
Kill witches. (Exodus 22:17)
Kill fortunetellers. (Leviticus 20:27)
Kill homosexuals. (Leviticus 20:13)
Kill nonbelievers. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)
Kill followers of other religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12, Deuteronomy 17:2-5)
Kill false prophets. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5, 18:20-22, Zechariah 13:3)
Kill an entire town if anyone there worships another God. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)
Kill women who are not virgins on their wedding night. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
Kill people working on the Sabbath. (Exodus 31:12-15)
Kill sons of sinners. (Isaiah 14:21)
Kill in the name of the Lord. (Jeremiah 48:10)

Death for striking parents. (Exodus 21:15)
Death for cursing parents. (Leviticus 20:9, Proverbs 20:20)
Death for fornication. (Leviticus 21:9)
Death for adultery. (Leviticus 20:10)
Death for blasphemy. (Leviticus 24:10-16)
Death to followers of other religions. (Exodus 22:19)

a reply to: neoholographic

Of course. But in the end, Satan does in fact love you, whether you believe it or not...



Satan tells us that the end will come soon. He tries to copy the false god, so of course it can't exactly be on point...

but here it is...

WARNING; Only for TRUE believers




Lyrics for Fans!
[Verse 1]
Book of the dead, pages bound in human flesh
Feasting the beast, from the blood the words were said
I am unseen, dreamt the sacred passage aloud
Trapped in a dream of the necronomicon

[Verse 2]
Seven lords of an evil and fatal force
Levitate through the secret and ancient doors
Unbegun, premenating bizarre
Swept away to the castle of Cantar

[Verse 3]
Seeking the tomb, tried to possess
Immortal sleep, visions of death
Drank of the blood, water of life
Splendorous son, show me the sign
You are dead
Blanketing fear, unknown to man
Demons appear, death they command

[Bridge]
Dead by dawn
Dead by dawn
Dead by dawn
Dead, by, dawn
Dead by dawn
Dead by dawn
Dead by dawn
Dead, by, dawn

Dead by dawn
Dead by dawn
Dead by dawn
Dead, by, dawn

Dead by dawn
Dead by dawn
Dead by dawn
Dead, by, dawn

Blasphermate me

[Verse 4]
We are what was, and shall rule again
Dead by dawn, chanting death thee ancient hymn
This is not real, I am not the chosen one
Trapped in a spell of the necronomicon

[Verse 5]
Torted pain, in the palace of dead
Recitate, through the passages I dreamt
[Outro]
Dead, dead by dawn
Dead, dead by dawn

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
Kill people who don't listen to Priests. (Deuteronomy 17:12)
Kill fortunetellers. (Leviticus 20:27)
Kill homosexuals. (Leviticus 20:13)
Kill followers of other religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12, Deuteronomy 17:2-5)
Kill nonbelievers. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)
Kill people working on the Sabbath. (Exodus 31:12-15)

Kill false prophets. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5, 18:20-22, Zechariah 13:3)
Kill an entire town if anyone there worships another God. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)
Kill women who are not virgins on their wedding night. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
Kill people working on the Sabbath. (Exodus 31:12-15)
Kill witches. (Exodus 22:17)

Kill sons of sinners. (Isaiah 14:21)
Kill in the name of the Lord. (Jeremiah 48:10)

Death for striking parents. (Exodus 21:15)
Death for cursing parents. (Leviticus 20:9, Proverbs 20:20)
Death for fornication. (Leviticus 21:9)
Death for adultery. (Leviticus 20:10)
Death for blasphemy. (Leviticus 24:10-16)
Death to followers of other religions. (Exodus 22:19)

The whole point of the Levitical law system was to maintain a pure population. This was part of the old covenant that required these people to avoid sin at all costs because there was no perfect scapegoat to buffer their wrong-doings. The penalty for sin being death is not metaphorical, death and disease is actually what happens when you stray from the archetype. This was the point of the sin-offerings, because the animal would take on the judgement that was actually due to the people of Israel.

It's the same logic as removing a cancerous cell. You have to kill the cancer before it takes over and destroys the whole.

Thankfully with the new covenant all that has been overcome, and the curse is lifted for people who look for such liberation. When they tried to trap Jesus by insisting they stone a woman caught in adultery (as it says in Moses's book), his response is that whoever is without sin should be the first one to throw the stone. Surely enough they all walk away except Jesus, who is without sin. His judgement is mercy, and with this He ushers in a new paradigm of mercy over judgement, because he takes the due judgement of the people on Himself.

This is what it means that Jesus died for our sins, and this is why He is the fulfillment of the Law.

a reply to: cooperton

Yeah, I get all that. What part of an innocent person is cancerous?

Using your Nazi metaphors...

Would you have wiped out all Germans because of the cancerous Nazis that were also part of the population? That would also include the Jews, and others that lived in Germany too.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: cooperton

Yeah, I get all that. What part of an innocent person is cancerous?

They're not innocent. That's the whole point

Would you have wiped out all Germans because of the cancerous Nazis that were also part of the population? That would also include the Jews, and others that lived in Germany too.

Would you leave a few cancer cells to allow them to continue to destroy the body? Or would you eliminate the malignant tumor entirely?

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
Kill people who don't listen to Priests. (Deuteronomy 17:12)
Kill fortunetellers. (Leviticus 20:27)
Kill homosexuals. (Leviticus 20:13)
Kill followers of other religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12, Deuteronomy 17:2-5)
Kill nonbelievers. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)
Kill people working on the Sabbath. (Exodus 31:12-15)

Kill false prophets. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5, 18:20-22, Zechariah 13:3)
Kill an entire town if anyone there worships another God. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)
Kill women who are not virgins on their wedding night. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
Kill people working on the Sabbath. (Exodus 31:12-15)
Kill witches. (Exodus 22:17)

Kill sons of sinners. (Isaiah 14:21)
Kill in the name of the Lord. (Jeremiah 48:10)

Death for striking parents. (Exodus 21:15)
Death for cursing parents. (Leviticus 20:9, Proverbs 20:20)
Death for fornication. (Leviticus 21:9)
Death for adultery. (Leviticus 20:10)
Death for blasphemy. (Leviticus 24:10-16)
Death to followers of other religions. (Exodus 22:19)

The whole point of the Levitical law system was to maintain a pure population. This was part of the old covenant that required these people to avoid sin at all costs because there was no perfect scapegoat to buffer their wrong-doings. The penalty for sin being death is not metaphorical, death and disease is actually what happens when you stray from the archetype. This was the point of the sin-offerings, because the animal would take on the judgement that was actually due to the people of Israel.

It's the same logic as removing a cancerous cell. You have to kill the cancer before it takes over and destroys the whole.

Thankfully with the new covenant all that has been overcome, and the curse is lifted for people who look for such liberation. When they tried to trap Jesus by insisting they stone a woman caught in adultery (as it says in Moses's book), his response is that whoever is without sin should be the first one to throw the stone. Surely enough they all walk away except Jesus, who is without sin. His judgement is mercy, and with this He ushers in a new paradigm of mercy over judgement, because he takes the due judgement of the people on Himself.

This is what it means that Jesus died for our sins, and this is why He is the fulfillment of the Law.

So essentially a bipolar god then?

Laughable and insane, lol

a reply to: cooperton

The verse says, kill an entire town if even ONE person believes in another God. It does not say, if they all do.

Edit: Meaning, it doesn't matter if some of them don't worship other Gods. Kill them all for merely living near someone who does.