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originally posted by: bastion
Morgellons is hoax, so is detoxification and the fake spiritual cult slides claiming the vaccines have parasites in.
Removing iron from the blood sounds like a quick way to kill yourself but vit d may hyave uses in recovery.
Too many quacks involved in this advice. I don't think they have any actual medical qualifications between them. Their PHDs are either bought online from fake Unis or they're made up alternative (i.e - no scientific evidence is works or scientifically proven not to work) medicine.
I'd advise following advice and treatment protocol from actual Drs rather than convicted fraudsters with no medical education or discredited scientists who are using the pandemic to make millions selling snake oil cures that are long proven not to work or a based on long debunked claims.
originally posted by: nonspecific
This is the first paragraph of the first link in your op.
"CAUTION: All of this is advice from non-professionals with no formal training on dosages, side effects, or other complications. We do not know about your specific medical circumstances, such as other medications you may be on or preexisting conditions. Be careful, do your own research, consult doctors first, and keep this in mind if following the advice here"
It's not really a good start when this disclaimer pretty much says there's nothing of any value or reliability of safety is it.
a reply to: natoshis
originally posted by: bastion
Well that was a load of nonsense with anti-semitic overtures.
Morgellons is a proven hoax by schizophrenics and meth heads, it's been doing the rounds for decades and all the 'fibres' tested have been proven to be fluff from clothes. The correct name for it is Delusional Parasitosis as the parasite claims are unfounded but caused by severe mental illness - charlatans on the web exploit those suffering from the paranoid delusions to sell them fake cures or detox regimes: sciencebasedmedicine.org...
Messing with ferretin levels isn't something you should do without a neurologist prescribing and overseeing dosage - Low ferretin levels are the cause of a lot of neuro problems like restless leg syndrome - my brain didn't form properly in the womb and I have iron staining on the rhs of my brain and heterotopic gray matter of the lateral veshicles due to low levels in gestation. It causes a lot of nasty seizures.
Taking too much or rapidly changing levels is likely to cause seizures/convulsions and various organ damage with the potential to alter neuro-chemistry and neuro-generation. It's not somethin you just mess about dosing at home.
The parasites stuff has been debunked many times on here - the original claim is from some nutty Spanish/Italian spiritual art cult who falsely claimed they were scientists/drs and promoted by the usual quack blogs.
originally posted by: nonspecific
Is the wealth of clinical information on the use of those things as an effective form of treatment for covid 19 is your op?
There's a lot of links so which one should I be looking at?
a reply to: natoshis
originally posted by: nonspecific
If it's clinical research can I have the papers and articles as opposed to some YouTube videos please.
a reply to: natoshis
originally posted by: nonspecific
If it's clinical research can I have the papers and articles as opposed to some YouTube videos please.
a reply to: natoshis
originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: natoshis
Cheers for the info, I was unaware it played any role in infection/immune system function. After a skim read of the literatue it seems Lactoferritin is well established as great in preventing most viruses from infecting or replicating. I'll have to read a bit more in depth but if it holds then I'll submit a question to my neurologist as it could be a major help with my mums condition and potential therapy if I contracted that or other virus as I can't be put on a vent due to seizures. More than 60% of the kids in the UK who died of covid had such neuro conditions so it may be plying a significant role in mortality rates.
There's this paper on it's general use in common viral infections: Antiviral properties of Lactoferritin written prior to covid so unaffected by any potential recent academic bias.
With the slides claiming to show parasites I'm skeptical how they managed to get hold of the vials or know they're legit as fake versions of the vax have been doing the rounds for a while - I think it's far more likely what they're viewing is a contaminant from using non-sterile procedure and not using a proper lab or lab protocol rather than things that were actually present in the vax. The tentacle thing seems like a mould or fungal spore, fungal stuff uses hydrolic pressure in growth (why mushrooms can grow through tarmac/concrete so would be more than capable of lifing the slides an moving around. There's billions of these spores in the air which are pretty impossible to avoid contaminating slides unless lamina-flow HEPA filtered boxes are used.
I don't have any proof of it but I've yet to see any testing methods that eliminate these contaminants and would be capable of providing valid analysis of contents.
www.nature.com... - The emerging role of zinc transporters in cellular homeostasis and cancer
"Early evidence showing zinc-dependent regulatory effects on protein tyrosine phosphatases and transcription factors pointed to the role of zinc in intracellular signaling pathways."121,122
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... - The Potential Impact of Zinc Supplementation on COVID-19 Pathogenesis
"About 50% of patients that died of COVID-19 had bacterial or fungal co-infections (145), underlining the importance of sustaining the immune function by a sufficient zinc supply (1, 2, 36).
The B cell compartment also strongly benefits from a balanced zinc homeostasis, as zinc is required for B cell maturation and function (72, 81)
Zinc is an essential regulator in TLR-4- and TLR-3-induced signaling in innate immune cells (94). Thus, zinc deficiency potentially disturbs the innate immune response toward SARS-CoV2, enabling the virus to easily spread throughout the host without an adequate immune response (Figure 1.6).
In most cases, prophylactic zinc supplementation was more effective than therapeutic proceedings (106–108, 111). Up to 30% of the everyday respiratory infections, briefly named “common cold,” are due to infections with coronaviruses (112). Studies showed reduced symptom severity, reduced frequency, and duration of the common cold after zinc administration (99, 100, 113, 114) depending on dosage, zinc compound and the start time after initial symptoms (115). Most importantly, zinc supplementation of children revealed significant benefits in various studies (96, 106) and reduced 15% pneumonia-specific morality and 19% of pneumonia morbidity in developing countries (116).
In patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), bronchial asthma, cardiovascular diseases, autoimmune diseases, kidney diseases, dialysis, obesity, diabetes, cancer, atherosclerosis, liver cirrhosis, immunosuppression, and known liver damage low serum zinc levels are regularly observed (4, 117). At the same time, these groups are particular at risk for COVID-19 (10, 51, 118, 119). For example 57.5% elderly and nursing home residents in the U.S., for which high incidence of respiratory tract infections is described, showed significantly decreased zinc intake levels and are considered subjects with high risk regarding COVID-19 (120).
As mentioned earlier, marginal zinc deficiency affects one third of the worldwide population and most subjects with COVID-19 are at risk of zinc deficiency (Figure 1). During physiological inflammatory responses, zinc is additionally redistributed to the tissues, resulting in serum hypozincemia (1, 65). In combination with the pre-existing suboptimal zinc supply, this will decrease serum zinc levels to critically low values and thereby significantly increase the susceptibility for co-infections with detrimental progression. In critically ill patients persistent low serum zinc was associated with recurrent sepsis and serum zinc levels were inversely correlated with mortality from sepsis (62), underlining the potential benefits of monitoring the zinc status of the patients and implementing zinc supplementation into therapy of COVID-19.
(Virus infects then Immune response then existing zinc level worsened by redistribution)
Vascular complications resulting from atherosclerosis development, microangiopathic organ failure, and venous thromboembolism were found as a major cause of death in COVID-19 patients (147–149), suggesting an important role of disease-induced coagulopathy, which, however, needs further investigation. Zinc influences thrombocyte aggregation and coagulation (150). Recently, a functional association between zinc and ROS production in platelets was described, indicating that zinc could decrease thrombus formation in a clinical context (151). Complications of SARS-CoV2 infections also include tissue damage affecting the gastrointestinal system (152), the liver (153), heart (154), nervous system (155), kidneys (156), blood vessels (149), and the skin (157). In this regard it should be mentioned that a balanced zinc homeostasis is essential for wound healing and tissue recovery after mechanical and inflammation-mediated damage (158, 159), adding more potential benefits of zinc supplementation of COVID-19 patients (Figure 1.11)."
Low-dose zinc supplementation together with small concentrations of the zinc ionophores pyrithione or hinokitol decreased RNA synthesis in influenza, poliovirus, picornavirus, the equine arteritis virus, and SARS-CoV by directly inhibiting the RNA-dependent RNA polymerase of the virus (34, 41)."
"Extracellular Zn2+ at low concentrations, like those in the human body, does not increase the intracellular concentration of Zn2+ enough to inhibit RNA virus's replication, since intracellular free Zn2+ concentration is kept at a relatively low level by metallothioneins. 3
Inhibition on replication of SARS‐COV virus in cell culture at low zinc concentration was achieved only thanks to a zinc ionophore: pyrithione. 3 Previously in fact it was shown that without zinc ionophores, high extracellular zinc concentrations are required to inhibit the replication of various RNA viruses. 3
Accordingly, for a zinc compound to be potentially effective against Covid‐19, it would need a marked zinc ionophore activity, and this is not documented for any zinc salt, except possibly for zinc ascorbate, as discussed in this article.