The night I "left" Ats and why

originally posted by: CthruU

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: CthruU
a reply to: benrl

Your a fraud full stop.

If you where even remotely in touch with the persona your trying to fullfill then you would have seen/recognised that a response to my post was necessary even obligatory. You failed the test.

Ignoring my post was exactly what I expected but a true messenger of christ would have reached out to the author of the misguided post I subjected you to, infact after reading the rest it would have been perhaps the only one worth replying to considering your so called calling instead of only engaging in gratitude for praise.

Yet another delusional wannabe.......unfortunately.

I pray you get the attention you seek.

You wouldn't have a clue what I seek, attention is certainly not a candidate, quite the opposite.
But continue to pray for me nevertheless. Any prayer from another about a third party is always worthwhile.

Even i gave you a star for your prayers for me......there's a good boy.

Something about this thread really irritates you, clearly. Debating religion is pointless. Faith is believing without evidence, on a whim, God designed it that way. If we were all born as the angels, we wouldn't have a choice, the angels envy us.

About Paul, just something to note. Paul spent years in Rome in prison while writing letters to different churches. Luke (the author of the gospel of Luke) penned the book of acts for Paul near the end of his life in prison. To me, it makes no sense that Paul would muster up some wild fantasy cult for the Romans when he was brought to prison there for spreading the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Anyway, to each their own. There's a reason you're here even if it pisses you off.

Beautiful. Thanks for sharing. I hope there is more time and although your inclination may be true, it could be an over-intellectualization where you're overthinking... I've had many of those and they often prove to be wrong when i'm not in the Spirit flow. Also no one is supposed to know when the end times are.

Good call on Pharmekeia. It's nearly unbelievable how these spells work.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: CthruU

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: CthruU
a reply to: benrl

Your a fraud full stop.

If you where even remotely in touch with the persona your trying to fullfill then you would have seen/recognised that a response to my post was necessary even obligatory. You failed the test.

Ignoring my post was exactly what I expected but a true messenger of christ would have reached out to the author of the misguided post I subjected you to, infact after reading the rest it would have been perhaps the only one worth replying to considering your so called calling instead of only engaging in gratitude for praise.

Yet another delusional wannabe.......unfortunately.

I pray you get the attention you seek.

You wouldn't have a clue what I seek, attention is certainly not a candidate, quite the opposite.
But continue to pray for me nevertheless. Any prayer from another about a third party is always worthwhile.

Even i gave you a star for your prayers for me......there's a good boy.

Ah, condescension, one of the true Christian values. You serve the Lord well. There's a good boy.

Your right i don't serve the lord, not as Christianity would dictate the terms of that service anyhow.....and as for condescension, wasn't it you who initiated that attitude as usual towards me?? Are you going to be true to Christian values and at least admit you weren't being genuine- I mean did you actually pray for me??????

You as I stated earlier have no clue except for the mastery of hypocrisy.

originally posted by: CthruU

Failing to see any significance in your story.

The guy knew his name before meeting him and predicted what he would end up doing. I don't agree that there is certainty the world will end in December, but there's also no certainty that it won't. Be careful you're acting like the adversary.

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: CthruU

Failing to see any significance in your story.

The guy knew his name before meeting him and predicted what he would end up doing. I don't agree that there is certainty the world will end in December, but there's also no certainty that it won't. Be careful you're acting like the adversary.

He was on his way to jump of a bridge, the man was no messenger of jesus, he was a deceptive spirit to guide him down the wide path, the path of good intentions, for a man who believes in scriputre he should really re read about related prophesy.

I'm no adversary just a realist.

originally posted by: buddha
I have a problem with “work the harvest” !

"To Harvest...
: to gather, catch, hunt, or kill (salmon, oysters, deer, etc.)
for human use, sport, or population control

c : to remove or extract (something, such as living cells,
tissues, or organs) from culture (see culture entry 1 sense 3)
or from a living or recently deceased body especially for transplanting"

So some being a lot more powerful than us Is Harvesting us!
That does Not sound good to me!

It grows are souls? to Feed on or use some how.
I will NEVER trust what You call god.

Even if they or the goverment beams stuff! in to my brain.
Who would use this type of manipulation?
Good or Evil?
they say the satans greatist trik is making us not belive in him.
? what ? are you god people believe in him...
so what trick is that?

satans best trick is He wrote 1/4s of the bible.
Think about that!

Dont walk blindly in to hell.
question ALL!

any fool can say "this is the word of GOD"

P.S. I am Not saying Dont belive in god.

Would you care to take another crack at that.... because honestly that is all sorts of confused and just wrong....

The "Harvest" we are to work is the same as being "Fishers Of Men"... it has nothing to do with what you falsely mislabeled it as being...

We can be sure there is a coming harvest... The Wheat and The Chaff.... soon... (The chaff is about to burned up) and there will be great tribulation and wrath like the world has never seen... (Look around at the signs of the times) People Get Ready There's A Train A Coming... Don't Need No Ticket (Other Than The Blood/Faith In Jesus) You Just Get Onboard...

So the "Harvest" you speak of could and should be defined as such: www.webstersdictionary1828.com...

1. 2326. therismos
STRONGS NT 2326: θερισμός

θερισμός, θερισμοῦ, ὁ (θερίζω), harvest: equivalent to the act of reaping, John 4:35; figuratively, of the gathering of men into the kingdom of God, ibid. equivalent to the time of reaping, i. e. figuratively, the time of final judgment, when the righteous are gathered into the kingdom of God and the wicked are delivered up to destruction, Matthew 13:30, 39; Mark 4:29. equivalent to the crop to be reaped, i. e. figuratively, a multitude of men to be taught how to obtain salvation, Matthew 9:37; Luke 10:2; ἐξηράνθη ὁ θερισμός, the crops are ripe for the harvest, i. e. the time is come to destroy the wicked, Revelation 14:15. (the Sept. for קָצִיר rare in Greek writings, as Xenophon, oec. 18, 3; Polybius 5, 95, 5.)

Thank you for sharing your story.

That is indeed one way He intervenes.

I believe there is an alignment amidst the cosmos.


Like a giant clock ticking, and the bell is about to ring.

originally posted by: benrl
Why I left ATS almost 7 years ago,


I was a pretty ardent ATSer awhile ago, almost 7 years ago that stopped. Its a long story but the gist of which, I felt compelled to post on the forum I once frequented often. I’ve lurked and watched throughout these years off and on occasionally commenting or posting once in a great while.

Im sure many can guess by the general state of the world and nation why I’ve decided to post here.


You see, I found myself 7 years ago with a job loss, after buying a new home in a major city and my marriage was falling apart as well. I found myself alone, 1200 miles from family and friends in a fairly new city. I was alone and honestly desperate, I had nothing left in my mind. So I wandered off late one night in December by myself.

I was determined to make it to the bridges in town, in the middle of winter, before I could get there I was approached. By what seemed to be a homeless man, He called me by name, walked right up to me.

He told me many things, and walked with me for miles, he told me about my life, my past, the people in my life. He told me, God had woken him up to find me by Name, he told me many things, things I later confirmed matched the Judeo-christian view of the bible, including gods love and forgiveness in Christ.

He told me, I would be a Chaplain. Which happened quickly after, randomly encountering a chaplain who upon first meeting me told me I wanted to be one… He took me under his wing and I ended up going into Jails and Mental wards.

The man that night told me I would be a Pastor in the town next to mine, years later that came true too. He told me more,

Most importantly, He told me time was short, that I didn’t know how little time there was left, that it was time for me to “work the harvest”. He warned me that many things would be happening, these past years seeing things I never thought I would, doing things and going places I’d never dreamed. (prisons, hospitals, out with the homeless etc) Things I had only intellectuallized in the past I was seeing in person.


But these past 18 months has just pressed upon me the truth of what happened that night, and well, 7 matters as a biblical number, this december is the anniversary of the night I was warned that there was so very little time left.

I’ve posted elsewhere, mostly on christian forums over the past 7 years, I’ve served in numerous ministries, across many denominations. But as you can imagine, watching the world and knowing my bible, added to what I experienced that night and warning I got.


I just feel, I should post this here. Believe or don’t, christian or atheist, theist of any faith. Just consider what I’ve written. That is much more going on in the world at the moment than any of us know, powers and principalities. I somehow feel this is meant for someone out there.

Judeo-Christianity is riddled with deception. Deception may be or exist as our reality but it doesn’t need to be.

originally posted by: 25shadesofgraybeard
a reply to: 25shadesofgraybeard

Fat fingered my reply a bit.

Paul took great pains not to be a financial burden to those he was preaching to. He pulled his own weight. Please explain why Paul, and indeed many others, would we be willing to suffer and die for something they knew to be a hoax.

According to whose testimony ?

Paul's Testimony !!

And your talking about something that supposedly happen over 2500 years ago .

Many others were willing to die during the Pagan / Christian persecutions , and it was all according to Paul's testimony . Religious fervor is not a hard thing to create mate , it's all in our minds.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: 25shadesofgraybeard
a reply to: 25shadesofgraybeard

Fat fingered my reply a bit.

Paul took great pains not to be a financial burden to those he was preaching to. He pulled his own weight. Please explain why Paul, and indeed many others, would we be willing to suffer and die for something they knew to be a hoax.

According to whose testimony ?

Paul's Testimony !!

And your talking about something that supposedly happen over 2500 years ago .

Many others were willing to die during the Pagan / Christian persecutions , and it was all according to Paul's testimony . Religious fervor is not a hard thing to create mate , it's all in our minds.

Christ the Power and Wisdom of God
18 For the [a]message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”

20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22 For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a [c]stumbling block and to the [d]Greeks foolishness, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 1 Cor:1

a reply to: benrl

Great story, and I do see some similarities with number 7.
I came here in 2007 after witnessing 7 spheres that passed my previous house at night.

Had very clear and mysterious sightings and signs in 2017 always pursuing the truth and want to fight for equality and real justice in my live as what I did here.

Although I'm very curious about many spiritual and extraordinary things that live between our worlds to understand.

I'm a Christian I believe in God and Jesus but don't carry it out to the world.

That's a journey everyone has to figure out for themselves.

originally posted by: PaPaTaco

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: 25shadesofgraybeard
a reply to: 25shadesofgraybeard

Fat fingered my reply a bit.

Paul took great pains not to be a financial burden to those he was preaching to. He pulled his own weight. Please explain why Paul, and indeed many others, would we be willing to suffer and die for something they knew to be a hoax.

According to whose testimony ?

Paul's Testimony !!

And your talking about something that supposedly happen over 2500 years ago .

Many others were willing to die during the Pagan / Christian persecutions , and it was all according to Paul's testimony . Religious fervor is not a hard thing to create mate , it's all in our minds.

Christ the Power and Wisdom of God
18 For the [a]message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”

20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22 For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a [c]stumbling block and to the [d]Greeks foolishness, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 1 Cor:1

I don't suppose you have something to say that isn't quoted scripture ?

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: PaPaTaco

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: 25shadesofgraybeard
a reply to: 25shadesofgraybeard

Fat fingered my reply a bit.

Paul took great pains not to be a financial burden to those he was preaching to. He pulled his own weight. Please explain why Paul, and indeed many others, would we be willing to suffer and die for something they knew to be a hoax.

According to whose testimony ?

Paul's Testimony !!

And your talking about something that supposedly happen over 2500 years ago .

Many others were willing to die during the Pagan / Christian persecutions , and it was all according to Paul's testimony . Religious fervor is not a hard thing to create mate , it's all in our minds.

Christ the Power and Wisdom of God
18 For the [a]message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”

20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22 For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a [c]stumbling block and to the [d]Greeks foolishness, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 1 Cor:1

I don't suppose you have something to say that isn't quoted scripture ?

Sure... the floor is yours...start us off... but beware a thread drift.

a reply to: CthruU

Lets see if I can unpack this. A guy who used to post on ATS, took a hiatus after a run of bad luck and potentially suicidal thoughts. He found Jesus and came back to tell about his journey. Those of us who believe in God read his story, and commented. He said he wouldn't be back, he was just stopping in to let his ATS family know of his whereabouts.

So far, I think that's accurate. They you stopped in to call him out, thinking you somehow are superior and the arbiter of truth and justice. (my take on your post) he then ignored your ill tempered post. And that made you angry. So to me, it seemed as if you really wanted him to answer you, but not getting the proper attention, you lashed out. Like a small child would do.

Since this thread is about the OP finding Jesus, I used the opportunity to tell you I prayed you got the attention you seek. And Low and behold, we have a small miracle taking place. The OP gave you the gift of attention. That didn't seem like enough for you. Now you are lashing out at me. Well, you have your second miracle, and the Lord works in mysterious ways. He must have seen fit for me to spend a few minutes pointing out your issues and offering you that slice of attention you so deeply desire.

You have no idea what I pray for and what I don't. If you aren't seeking attention, I can say, what you are doing, you are doing it wrong. perhaps you can go to the pound and rescue a dog or something and find a friend. Good luck, and may God smile on you.

originally posted by: benrl
a reply to: Brotherman

Never better, Marriage restored, never been with out work since, house almost paid off now.

Truly blessed.

way to hustle brother.

originally posted by: PaPaTaco

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: PaPaTaco

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: 25shadesofgraybeard
a reply to: 25shadesofgraybeard

Fat fingered my reply a bit.

Paul took great pains not to be a financial burden to those he was preaching to. He pulled his own weight. Please explain why Paul, and indeed many others, would we be willing to suffer and die for something they knew to be a hoax.

According to whose testimony ?

Paul's Testimony !!

And your talking about something that supposedly happen over 2500 years ago .

Many others were willing to die during the Pagan / Christian persecutions , and it was all according to Paul's testimony . Religious fervor is not a hard thing to create mate , it's all in our minds.

Christ the Power and Wisdom of God
18 For the [a]message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”

20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22 For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a [c]stumbling block and to the [d]Greeks foolishness, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 1 Cor:1

I don't suppose you have something to say that isn't quoted scripture ?

Sure... the floor is yours...start us off... but beware a thread drift.

I've already said much .

I'm waiting for you to give some personal insight , not brainwashed scripture.

originally posted by: benrl
a reply to: Brotherman

Never better, Marriage restored, never been with out work since, house almost paid off now.

Truly blessed.

That is fantastic and than you for your story. I do remember you although i cant remember whether you where religious at the time.

I hear you my friend.
Thanks for sharing.
a reply to: benrl

A homeless man you never met knew your name and future???
That's astonishing...

originally posted by: Bloodworth
A homeless man you never met knew your name and future???
That's astonishing...

I agree. It is astonishing. Many have weird things, things happen they can't explain, things that often make them think they were dreaming, or losing their mind.

These experiences sometimes help direct people's lives, sometimes they are just memories that are hidden or shared.

I was one of those doubting Thomases, that required more than one astonishing, "unbelievable" experience, before I realized that God was more than an imaginary being in the sky, that people turned to when they needed hope.

I was raised in the church, so I knew about God before I knew the alphabet. My Mother was a devout Catholic, my Dad was a card carrying Baptist, and my Grandfather was multi-denominational. That just meant he spent the whole of Sunday, going from church to church, in fellowship, and dragging us children with him.

God was such an integral part of my life, that a lot of thought was not required. I put more thought into brushing my teeth, than I put into God on a daily basis.

I went through a rebellious time when I was in university. University changed my blind acceptance to doubt. My curiosity led me to the study of religion. My study of religion turned me off of religion, but it did not turn me away from God. But God was more in my mind, than in my life.

It took a many years of God reaching out to me, and me doubting, before my ego was finally pushed aside, and I accepted his offer of a personal relationship.

I was a stubborn, skeptical, and rebellious child. Why he continue to pursue me, is still to be revealed. One thing I have come to realize, is that belief is a choice.

I share this with you not because I am trying to change your mind, or trying to make you believe the OP, or even to believe me. I am sharing because I understand where you are, because I was there, and I had front row seats, and still could not see. I still doubted.

God showed me the astonishing and the unbelievable, he gave me many interesting tales of the unexplainable, the borderline supernatural, and it still took years, before I removed the one thing from the equation, and allowed myself the ability to see.

I had to get out of the way, and let God be God in my life.

I understand your choice, I just hope that one day you will truly understand why I made mine.