Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich is Stunned by the Amount of Potential 2020 Election Fraud.

what is truly sad and frightening is those that continue to deny what happened (massive voter fraud) and in fact defend it (like AugustusMasonicus but to be fair he isnt the only one by a long shot on ATS) dont realize the "monster" released / rights lost cant be controlled

Or as the old saying goes "be put back in the bottle"

once this has been accepted and in fact welcomed it WILL NOT CAN turn on them with same ferocity as they enjoyed when it served their interests/cause.

that it NOT CAN BUT WILL be used not only for their opponents at the time , but FAR WORSE that they in no way want to happen and happen to them

by parties that ALL SIDES can agree are far worse than the one they opposed / hated.

or even worse than that (and ironic) THEIR OWN SIDE can turn on them and put them as "the enemy"

look at history where this is the case.

look at the french revolution where (yes the royalty were a bunch of wankers as my british friends say) the very people that overthrew the royalty in the most violent fashion TURNED ON THEIR OWN MEMBERS.
hell alot of the leaders were killed by the very guillotine that their former friends/founders sent those they said were "nobility"/ enemies of the people

it was not called the year of madness for nothing and lots of people who were not from the "nobility" or "the enemy" died.

the "peoples revolt" (aka communism) in russia .
stalin KILLED all the people he called "friends and founders of communism" and continued the purges of those he felt were not "communist" enough (threat to him)
hell that continued at different levels for decades after his death

so when not if this turns on them for politicians that will harm them the system that would have protected them they themselves destroyed by them

"those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it"

or as the modern version stated (believe in pirates of the Caribbean, but could be wrong)

"be careful what you wish for.. you be damn sorry when you get it"

scrounger

originally posted by: scrounger
what is truly sad and frightening is those that continue to deny what happened (massive voter fraud) and in fact defend it (like AugustusMasonicus but to be fair he isnt the only one by a long shot on ATS) dont realize the "monster" released / rights lost cant be controlled

The only 'monster' released is a monster of stupidity by the people who think their boy got cheated. He lost. He lost because he turned into the giant asshole that Hillary Clinton was in 2016. But you know, krakens and all that.

ETA: Oh yeah, look at the thread title and when it was posted. See any indictments for all the stunning fraud? No? Exactly.

4.23.2022

The liberal media gave Arizona AG Mark Brnovich a pat on the back for quickly going along with those who declared "Trump Lost!" in 2020 and 2021.

Now the liberal media is changing its tune on Brnovich, which is a GOOD SIGN.

Source: www.washingtonpost.com...

A PLAN IN ACTION

Shower Arizona officials who resist actions that increase election integrity, with awards and honors.

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R-Mesa) will soon receive a prestigious award for pushing back against calls to suspend the state's 2020 general election results.

The John F. Kennedy Presidential Library Foundation announced on Thursday that Bowers is among the five people it will honor with the 2022 John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award.

The award is given to public servants who have made "courageous decisions of conscience without regard for the personal or professional consequences," according to a press release from Bowers' office.

The award gets its name from former President Kennedy's 1957 Pulitzer Prize-winning book, "Profiles in Courage." It tells the stories of eight U.S. Senators who risked their political careers for taking unpopular, yet principled, positions.

On multiple occasions, Bowers has refused inquiries or stopped legislation that would have cast doubt on the results of Maricopa County's 2020 general election, which saw President Joe Biden besting President Donald Trump in his quest for reelection.

Bowers said he received multiple calls from Trump and the former president's lawyers. He's seen protests outside of his home and an unsuccessful recall effort.

Bowers is running as a Republican for state Senate this November.

Source: justthenews.com...

IMO, if you already have an Attorney General, or other state officials who are afraid to dig too deeply into election results, giving awards of "courage" to those who resist investigations, will make those timid officials become complete eunuchs.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: scrounger
what is truly sad and frightening is those that continue to deny what happened (massive voter fraud) and in fact defend it (like AugustusMasonicus but to be fair he isnt the only one by a long shot on ATS) dont realize the "monster" released / rights lost cant be controlled

The only 'monster' released is a monster of stupidity by the people who think their boy got cheated. He lost. He lost because he turned into the giant asshole that Hillary Clinton was in 2016. But you know, krakens and all that.

ETA: Oh yeah, look at the thread title and when it was posted. See any indictments for all the stunning fraud? No? Exactly.

oh please spare me the claims "stupidity by the people wh think their boy got cheated" BS

lets remind you / go down memory lane

first the claim "no fraud happened"
then "no institutional fraud happened" and/or "only a small usual amount of fraud happened"
then after FACTS AND EVIDENCE of fraud came out the last comment

"not enough fraud to change the election"

with the KNOWN FACTS (like in this case) of people fighting ANY INVESTIGATION and when one is happening people NOT COOPERATING EVEN UNDER COURT ORDER.

with such destruction of evidence like "oh we didnt save the records of the voting machines, just the results"

hmmmmm

there was enough EVIDENCE found of fraud votes here in this one that the amount of fraud/mistakes/whatever term makes you happy votes that DEPENDING ON WHO THEY WERE FOR ... COULD CHANGE THE RESULTS.


let me say that again.. THE AMOUNT COULD CHANGE THE RESULTS.

but the same forces are STILL FIGHTING GIVING UP INFORMATION on that and trying to kill the investigation and/or say "no big deal" / demonizing those wanting full accounting.

what is sad is you and others back in 2016 DEMANDED AND GOT investigations in PA and WI with claims trump didnt win

remember that?
what happened?
the investigation was stopped BECAUSE TRUMP WAS GAINING MORE VOTES due to fraud, mistakes, ect votes thrown out were for HILLORY.. so how many was never found due to the initial complaint was HILLORY WON so since trump was STILL WINNING they stopped it.

then when trump wanted SAME ACCOUNTING IN CA where those "three million more popular votes showing hillory won" claim came from what happened?
bet you know dont you

the democrats fought it with every legal means at their disposal.. trump having the win CHOOSE not to pursue it to get on with what he promised to do when president.
finest example of democratic election fraud hypocrisy

now your doing the same thing..
"we dont want the truth, investigations, facts if it shows/could show we didnt win.


scrounger

a reply to: scrounger

None of those were my comments. Fraud occurs in every election, however it's minimal.

If there was so much fraud in Arizona why hasn't the AG tick-tocked out some sealed indictments? This was supposed to happen any day now, right?

Oh, I know, he's in on it too. Or he's just playing you. Kubrick should send all of you a fruit basket since you're the new moon landing hoax meme.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: scrounger

None of those were my comments. Fraud occurs in every election, however it's minimal.

If there was so much fraud in Arizona why hasn't the AG tick-tocked out some sealed indictments? This was supposed to happen any day now, right?

Oh, I know, he's in on it too. Or he's just playing you. Kubrick should send all of you a fruit basket since you're the new moon landing hoax meme.

sigh

i see you have run out of canned overused comments so now resort to ASSININE "one of these things is not like the other" NOT EVEN MENTIONED attacks.

what does the conspiracy theory of "moon landing hoax" have to do with this debate?

why not try showing point by point what i posted was wrong and stay on subject

try it you may like it.

scrounger

originally posted by: scrounger
what does the conspiracy theory of "moon landing hoax" have to do with this debate?

They both have zero evidence.

I notice you weren't able to address the questions on why we haven't seen any of the billions of sealed indictments tick-tocked out.

Last week I emailed Runbeck Election Services to inquire as to what happened with the Maricopa county election ballots.

I asked why ballot secure paper was not used at all, why there were so many issues with printer alignment, and other things? I haven't heard back.

How’s it going?

Still no evidence?
Other than desperate wishful thinking?
How about GOP, did they try to steal anything?

Bark up that tree, bet you find something.

originally posted by: spacedoubt
How’s it going?

Still no evidence?
Other than desperate wishful thinking?
How about GOP, did they try to steal anything?

Bark up that tree, bet you find something.

The investigation into Arizona's election crimes and irregularities is still ongoing thanks to the Maricopa Board of Supervisors still withholding subpoenaed records, last I knew.

Records that, I would guess, involve 3rd parties that were contracted like Runbeck. I guess this because, I saw that in one of Dominion's contracts, they strictly forbid election officials from releasing company records to the point of offering to pay fines and attorney's fees, and I would assume that other election 3rd party companies have similar agreements in their contacts. What a disgusting mess.

The fraud not only appears to exist, but the level of it is seemingly astronomical. I think Biden was right about that top notch election fraud team he had, because government(s), the best technology, $500,000 Zuckbucks, and teamwork is the only thing I can think of that could get such an unpopular person, who did next to no campaigning, 81 million votes breaking Obama's record. We watched tabulation centers shutdown, then the late night vote injections, stop trying to play us as fools.

Keep telling yourself whatever though. If you keep repeating it, it probably won't come true, but at least you'll strengthen your beliefs.

originally posted by: IndieA
Last week I emailed Runbeck Election Services to inquire as to what happened with the Maricopa county election ballots.

I asked why ballot secure paper was not used at all, why there were so many issues with printer alignment, and other things? I haven't heard back.

The CEO of Runbeck Election Services says making ballots "secure" to the degree Arizona officials are requesting, is very VERY difficult.

See midway down - Senate bill 1120: www.nbcnews.com...

4.26.2022

Proof of Election Machine Manipulation: frankspeech.com...

-and-

Some kind of legal "injunction" has been filed in Arizona, pertaining to the Dominion voting machines.

Source: frankspeech.com...

Progress Continues

a reply to: carewemust

Nice, I see that the 3rd Mesa county report has come out.

Found it in your first link.

5.5.2022

AG Brnovich put out this brief video yesterday, responding to Maricopa County officials who are accusing him of stringing things along, and being an unfair showboat.

Brief Video Clip: twitter.com...

Mark Brnovich is definitely trying to walk a tightrope. He needs to be more forthcoming and quit playing games. Voters are getting enough of that crap from the clowns running the country right now.

May 28, 2022

Bombshell!

Huge batch of ballots was "found" and counted: www.thegatewaypundit.com...

With the discovery of 20,000 illegal votes added to the total in Arizona, in addition to the numerous ballot-integrity problems discovered, it looks like Attorney General Mark Brnovich's reputation is going down the toilet soon, along with Secretary of State Katie Hobbs.

6.27.2022

OMG...over 100,000 AZ ballots from November 2020 WERE NOT COUNTED!

Live broadcast from AZ: rsbnetwork.tv...

a reply to: carewemust
Could you expand for those late to the show?
Tia

a reply to: shooterbrody

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It was a multifaceted hack. The fraud happened at least half a dozen ways.

no matter what is found we all must remember that even in AZ (this is what the OP is about) some have OPENLY STATED that EVEN IF voter fraud was found that showed trump would have won, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

let me say this again loud and clear for those in the back

THEY ARE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT ..

well except they claim they will use the info to "make the election process more secure and to prevent this in the future"

WTF

so someone can break possibly the biggest law in the constitution, the bedrock of this country, the election process and GET AWAY WITH IT?
because they "dont want to have a constitutional crisis"?

if (key word IF but seems more and more possible) biden DID NOT legally win the election but you let him stay there..
then the constitution is really dead and the courts are WORTHLESS.

let that idea sink in

scrounger