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originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: Chalcedony
a reply to: carewemust
Well they have all known that long term effects would be a thing. Why they try and lie about it is beyond me.... for example here is a quote from a Reuters article from JULY 2020! Yes. Way back in JULY 2020 about Astra Zeneca's liability protections...
“This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk if in ... four years the vaccine is showing side effects,” Ruud Dobber, a member of Astra’s senior executive team, told Reuters.
www.reuters.com...
So that tells you right there they know it is possible and they have told us it is possible to have long term effects. In their own words. Why brainwashed people keep saying what Fauci says is beyond me. They are telling us right there what it is.
All that your doing here is looking for reason to avoid getting a shot and are grasping at straws.
Fear of the unknown is just desperation. The liberal media has filled your head with fear.
The truth is that the technology in the vax isn't new. It's a decade old, and the long term effects are well known. The mRNA pack in the shot decays at a predictable rate and once it's gone there isn't anything left to cause long term effects. After a month thing stop happening so any damage done is complete and won't be done any more.
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AaarghZombies
Please post a link to the long term effects then.
I would like to see a link showing how many big pharma employees are flat earthers.
The member said that too.
The truth is that the technology in the vax isn't new. It's a decade old, and the long term effects are well known.
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AaarghZombies
Please post a link to the long term effects then.
I would like to see a link showing how many big pharma employees are flat earthers.
The member said that too.
You want me to dox them?
So, a couple of big pharma guys are anti vaxxers, big deal.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: AaarghZombies
So, a couple of big pharma guys are anti vaxxers, big deal.
So, let me get this straight: some of the people who worked on the vaccine, developed the vaccine, and actively promote the vaccine are anti-vaxxers?
TheRedneck
originally posted by: Irishhaf
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: Chalcedony
a reply to: carewemust
Well they have all known that long term effects would be a thing. Why they try and lie about it is beyond me.... for example here is a quote from a Reuters article from JULY 2020! Yes. Way back in JULY 2020 about Astra Zeneca's liability protections...
“This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk if in ... four years the vaccine is showing side effects,” Ruud Dobber, a member of Astra’s senior executive team, told Reuters.
www.reuters.com...
So that tells you right there they know it is possible and they have told us it is possible to have long term effects. In their own words. Why brainwashed people keep saying what Fauci says is beyond me. They are telling us right there what it is.
All that your doing here is looking for reason to avoid getting a shot and are grasping at straws.
Fear of the unknown is just desperation. The liberal media has filled your head with fear.
The truth is that the technology in the vax isn't new. It's a decade old, and the long term effects are well known. The mRNA pack in the shot decays at a predictable rate and once it's gone there isn't anything left to cause long term effects. After a month thing stop happening so any damage done is complete and won't be done any more.
He cant tell us the long term effects, because nobody knows..
MRNA is a decades old technology no doubt, but it has never been combined with the proprietary mixture for covid and used as a delivery system for a viral vaccine, at best we have hypotheticals.
originally posted by: IAMTAT
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: AaarghZombies
So, a couple of big pharma guys are anti vaxxers, big deal.
So, let me get this straight: some of the people who worked on the vaccine, developed the vaccine, and actively promote the vaccine are anti-vaxxers?
TheRedneck
Yes...and apparently, according to that poster, they also believe in a Flat Earth and Bigfoot.
Poster knows stuff.
(I'm still waiting to see that list of long term effects on humans that are already "well known" by the "vaccine" manufacturers.)
That's just it, we understand the components and we known how they interact with other things so we can determine what is and isn't possible, let alone plausible.
originally posted by: elementalgrove
a reply to: carewemust
Still waiting for someone to explain the numbers, there is ZERO reason for anyone to be taking these experimental jabs.
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AaarghZombies
Please post a link to the long term effects then.
I would like to see a link showing how many big pharma employees are flat earthers.
The member said that too.
You want me to dox them?
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AaarghZombies
Please post a link to the long term effects then.
I would like to see a link showing how many big pharma employees are flat earthers.
The member said that too.
You want me to dox them?
good Lord no, and don't prove what you say either. just say it, and it's the gospel. Is there some class where lefties learn that no sources are needed to debate, just say things and expect everyone to believe you? I understand the boot licking, but to couple that with piss poor debate skills is a crime.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: AaarghZombies
What about the spike protein it produces? Do we know it doesn't have side effects?
TheRedneck
How long mRNA lasts in the body?
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines work by introducing mRNA (messenger RNA) into your muscle cells. The cells make copies of the spike protein and the mRNA is quickly degraded (within a few days). The cell breaks the mRNA up into small harmless pieces. mRNA is very fragile; that's one reason why mRNA vaccines must be so carefully preserved at very low temperatures.
How long spike proteins last in the body?
The Infectious Disease Society of America (IDSA) estimates that the spike proteins that were generated by COVID-19 vaccines last up to a few weeks, like other proteins made by the body. The immune system quickly identifies, attacks and destroys the spike proteins because it recognizes them as not part of you. This "learning the enemy" process is how the immune system figures out how to defeat the real coronavirus. It remembers what it saw and when you are exposed to coronavirus in the future it can rapidly mount an effective immune response.