Coming to a town near you Worse than Murder

originally posted by: zosimov

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: JAGStorm

The public suggestion that rape is somehow allowable or condoned because of the ethnicity or culture of the rapist, and that blames that ethnicity and culture, is of itself a hate crime.

One crime does not expunge another.

These people did something criminal. They are criminals by their actions. That does not make anyone who did not commit those crimes, and has no direct knowledge of the commission of the crimes, guilty by association.

No. Thought is not a crime. Suggestions are not crimes.
I work with people from around the world and absolutely enjoy people of all cultures, so I can't say that I agree to every opinion in this thread, but nonetheless thought and suggestion are not and should not be crimes.

As to the subject matter, I think crimes such as these exist in all cultures (Epstein, anyone?) but how it's perceived and/or accepted by the rest of society varies.

This was a number of online posts. It was more than thought.

Similarly, Jesus said “You have heard that it was said [a]to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Matthew 5:27-28.

That would appear to be a definition of thought, as a crime.

Or when Charles Manson was charged for the Murder of Sharon Tate, which he hadn't personally committed, couldn't he have argued a similar thing? Clearly, incitement to hatred and criminal acts is a crime, and is treated as such by our laws.

originally posted by: shaemac

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: chr0naut

The public suggestion that rape is somehow allowable or condoned because of the ethnicity or culture of the rapist, and that blames that ethnicity and culture, is of itself a hate crime.

One crime does not expunge another.

These people did something criminal. They are criminals by their actions. That does not make anyone who did not commit those crimes, and has no direct knowledge of the commission of the crimes, guilty by association.

Guilty by association, maybe not every single person, but maybe it's a lot more common than anyone wants to admit.
When the refugees were brought here it was mentioned that women were going to be attacked and people said "ohhh that's racist". Well if the shoe fits!
spectrumnews1.com...

Bahrullah Noori, 20, allegedly attempted to "engage in a sexual act with a minor using force against that person

Mohammad Haroon Imaad allegedly assaulted his spouse on Sept. 7. The 32-year-old is charged with strangling and suffocating her.

www.usnews.com...

A soldier reported that she was assaulted by a small group of Afghan refugees at a shelter complex set up for the refugees in New Mexico, Fort Bliss officials said.

They can't even stop raping while sheltered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here are some rape statistics in the USA by state in 2021: Rape Statistics By State 2021 - World Population Review

Can you explain why the southern states, where there are higher concentrations of new immigrants, have fewer incidences of rape?

Why is the northern most state, also the highest in numbers of rapes? Who is immigrating into Alaska?

The illegal aliens coming in at the southern border are NOT staying in southern states. They are being shipped off to other states.

Do you know much about Alaska? Did you even read the link you shared? Alaska's natives, sadly have a high problem of alcohol (and probably now) drug addiction....and little law enforcement.....little to do, very remote. Also, a lot of southern states........we are armed to the teeth.

The law that arms the 'law abiding', also arms the criminals. It's a zero sum argument.

The fact is still where the immigrants are most populous, the crime rate is lower than where they aren't. Even if they get shipped to other states.

What everyone must realise rape (as bad as it is) in western society is usually a lone perpetrator. Now in the UK there have been, and still more being discovered, multiple rape gangs. Up to 20 to 25 perpetrators and they have all been Pakistani Muslims. As someone pointed out, "but there were British among them", yeah, British born of Pakistani origin.
That many, 20 to 25 men in a gang means collusion in their community, yet the communities remain silent.
They hide behind religion, religious freedom etc. it aint a religion it's an ideology and it should be globally stripped of it's religious status.

a reply to: shaemac

Allah is a demon. No wonder they act like stone age devil's.

Immigrant groups have always been maligned by the native population, so this is nothing new.

But the idea that every Muslim is waging a secret war on the west is ludicrous. And you think I'm the gullible one?

So my friend and former student who works for the equivalent of NASA in Libya and is obsessed with writing and the stars is also secretly waging a war on the west. The Muslim community worldwide has enough resources to devote to their families, full time professions, hobbies, and a war on the west. lol.

Maybe given another 200 years, they will come up with better infiltrators than the brother lover Omar (wait, aren't women all subjugated in Islam? Why would they trust women like Huma and Ilhan and Rashida with such an important invasion?)

As far as the high incidences of rape in Afghanistan, the country has been at war for decades, and sadly, women often are the victims of violent subjugation including rape in war zones; check this out regarding the estimated 50,000 rapes perpetrated during the Bosnian conflict:

www.dailysabah.com...

And there are absolutely "rape gangs" in western countries. Epstein, Savile, Sandusky, Nassar, and on and on did not act alone, but with the complicity of other criminals and people who looked the other way.

But hate to interrupt the 2 mins of muslim hate lol. Please keep on.

PS: Changing the definition of religion to exclude a religious group one doesn't like sounds like a playbook from the left. You're not a Constitutionalist if you don't support the First Amendment, sorry.

Love the deep level of reflective conversation here. What do people propose are the solutions? Totally close borders? Rapist test for all immigrants? Do native rapists become emigrants? Where are we going with this convo? AT ATS, we deny ignorance. Let's get on track with real-world solutions. Moaning leads to groning, solutions lead to revolutions. We can do this.

originally posted by: TheMirrorSelf
a reply to: JAGStorm

You know, there are plenty of patriarchal societies, even androcentric cultures...but what's up with the rapes. I understand societies where the roles are defined in ways that most western minded persons would not necessarily agree with, but rape? That's a crime everywhere, right? If you feel that women are inferior to you, you might snub them, be less likely to work with them, expect them to cook and clean and raise children, you know...Sexism's Greatest Hits. But rape?

It is true that it is a crime over there. The difference is that the victim gets beheaded for being unclean.

a reply to: chr0naut

Rape under Islamic law is punishable by death.

The problem with that is that they do not get that actual penalty.

Democrats are literally obsessed with criminals and so everything they can to keep them out of jail and on the streets.

The whole no cash bail is showing to only increse crime. The bill literally keeps criminals out of jail .

The Democrats aid and abet criminals everywhere.

They are aiding illegal aliens who will harm Americans

They are aiding rioters by raising money for their bail.

They are aiding the Taliban with a cache of weapons.

They released terrorist form Gitmo.

I really cant see how anyone can support anything Democrat

originally posted by: everyone
a reply to: chr0naut

Rape under Islamic law is punishable by death.

The problem with that is that they do not get that actual penalty.

In this case, because the weren't under Islamic law. They were under Australian law, which is a version of British Common law.

originally posted by: Bloodworth
Democrats are literally obsessed with criminals and so everything they can to keep them out of jail and on the streets.

The whole no cash bail is showing to only increse crime. The bill literally keeps criminals out of jail .

The Democrats aid and abet criminals everywhere.

They are aiding illegal aliens who will harm Americans

They are aiding rioters by raising money for their bail.

They are aiding the Taliban with a cache of weapons.

They released terrorist form Gitmo.

I really cant see how anyone can support anything Democrat

The Democratic Party is an American political party.

originally posted by: Bloodworth
Democrats are literally obsessed with criminals and so everything they can to keep them out of jail and on the streets.

The whole no cash bail is showing to only increse crime. The bill literally keeps criminals out of jail .

The Democrats aid and abet criminals everywhere.

They are aiding illegal aliens who will harm Americans

They are aiding rioters by raising money for their bail.

They are aiding the Taliban with a cache of weapons.

They released terrorist form Gitmo.

I really cant see how anyone can support anything Democrat

Republicans are complicit on important matters, and the circus continues. The US is no friend.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Did you know that almost every official, if not all, that is part of the Taliban and has taken over Afghanistan were all at Gitmo and ALL were released by Obama or Biden?...

A Taliban prisoner who was released from the Guantanamo Bay prison in 2014 by former US president Barack Obama, is emerging as the key figure who reunited the insurgents and helped them capture the power in Afghanistan. Khairullah Khairkhwa was released along with four others in exchange for captured US Army soldier, Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.
...

Taliban member, released by Obama from Gitmo, planned their Afghan return

Who Are the 5 Guantanamo Detainees Swapped in Exchange for Bergdahl?

Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl was the traitor that joined the terrorists and later was used to release the people whom are now in charge of the Taliban and Afghanistan, and this was done by Obama.

BTW, Biden the puppet has been doing the same thing Obama did...

Report: Biden continues releasing Guantanamo Bay detainees, who immediately return to terror

originally posted by: chr0naut

The Democratic Party is an American political party.

The left-wing political party most often you have agreed with and whose whole purpose is the destruction of the U.S. meanwhile they get rich from China, Russia, etc.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Did you know that almost every official, if not all, that is part of the Taliban and has taken over Afghanistan were all at Gitmo and ALL were released by Obama or Biden?...

When I was a military brat I met kids from Gitmo. Yes there are American kids that went to high school there. The government paid for them to have 2 trips abroad each year. Of all places to be stationed that place was the worst.

Not shocked about the Taliban being released either.

a reply to: shaemac

I am shocked, in this day and age, that people still have not educated themselves on the IDIELOGY of islam.

You mean 'IDEOLOGY'?

In any case, I think it's more a CULT than anything else, and thus people that are brainwashed to express that particular evil agenda of said cult, should not be called 'muslims' but 'islamists', to continue being truthful about things.