Most Who Chose to Not Be Covid-19 Vaccinated are Incorrectly Labeled as Anti-Vaxxers.

a reply to: carewemust

If you don't get vaccinated and infect an old person who dies, the "pro-choice" wasn't a good thing.

So if you don't get vaccinated and an old person dies, "pro-choice" wasn't a good thing?

But if you are "pro-choice" and an unborn baby dies, then that's a...good thing?

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind

originally posted by: TheMirrorSelf
So, I've settled on the term "Pro-Choice".

Why do "we" have to settle on being called any name? Why don't we pick out some choice names to call "them" for a change? And I mean, only in the strict sense of being fair and equality minded.

I don't disagree, but I find this non-sense to be somewhat obligatory for any substantive interaction in this climate. People want to know where you stand, I suppose. I think the arrogance of it is the expectation that they deserve that explanation. I went to an AA meeting recently (I really don't like those meetings at all, went with a friend), and as I was waiting for the meeting to start the woman who lead the meeting asked both me and my friend if we were vaxxed. I wasn't and subsequently was shamed by her. So much for the 'anonymous' part of AA.

a reply to: carewemust

There is another category that goes one beyond this; people who take one shot, but don't like how it effects their body, or maybe family members that take the second shot have grievous reactions, which changes their minds.

Or they took the first shot and then found out later about endless boosters that are planned and say "I am not doing this"

This group of people are not anti-vaxxers by any definition, as they took a single does of a vaccination the COVID one in 2021.
Yet the media and government is classifying them all the same just because they are saying no with medical a choice for their bodies.

I am extremely intolerant to the flu vaccine and the Pertusis part of the DTAP vaccine, but I will still take the Tetnus vaccine if I get a major cut. I am not an anti-vaxer at all, in fact I believe they are good for some people. I have good immunity and I had my chicken pox, whooping cough, measles, and most of the flu viruses when I was young and have natural immunity. Why would I in my right mind get vaccines for those after having immunity. I never got the chicken pox when my kids and grandkids had them, and even though they were vaccinated they still got the measles. Now they have immunity from getting them.

I am not taking this vaccine because of past problems with other vaccines...The FDA and CDC actually say that people with past vaccine reactions should not take the vaccines. Plus I am intolerant to the glycol emulsification chemistries and depending how I contact them the symptoms are different. Propylene, polyethylene, and polysorbate 80 are the ones I have already identified, and I am trying to expand my trials to find if there are more glycols too. Strangely I can get regular car antifreeze on my hands and it does not react nearly as bad as with propylene and those poly glycols, maybe it has something to do with the Propyl or poly chemistry on them or something. Don't know, don't care, I just avoid them as much as possible which is not easy these days.

I guess I am an anti-vaxer with the mRNA vaccines though, I do not think they have had enough SUCCESSFUL research with them in the last decade to know if they are going to cause problems in people. The people that take them and get seriously hurt or die have rights too, to me they should never have lessened their regulations to allow them to use them yet. If this is an indicator of what is to come, I will become an anti-vaxer. When a vaccine hurts as many people as it helps, it is not medicine.

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: carewemust

I know lots of people who have not vaccinated because of concerns of long term issues due to lack of trials and long term testing.


Most would take the NovaVax because it is old style technology.

I highly doubt we will ever see NovaVax in the US because Pfizer has most probably paid off the .gov agencies quite well to make sure there will not be any more competition.

Isn't the J&J vac a traditional one?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: carewemust
Saturday, September 25, 2021

Official Definition of an Anti-Vaxxer

A person who opposes vaccination, or laws that mandate vaccination.

Source: www.merriam-webster.com...

To me, an anti-vaxxer is someone who's against all vaccines. Like an anti-abortionist.

Just because I don't want the Covid-19 vaccine doesn't make me an "Anti-Vaxxer".

But that's how the authorities, media, and other ignorant souls are labeling us.

I don't want to be vaccinated because I don't NEED TO BE vaccinated. I have the robust natural immunity that comes with Covid-19 recovery. An immunity which is far stronger against Covid-19 infection than what the so-called "vaccines" deliver.

Not wanting a Covid-19 vaccination does NOT make me, or you, an "Anti-Vaxxer".

-CareWeMust

Because Lefties like to group and label everyone unless it is their group.

If they don't then they can't collectively call everyone anything bigoted.

There you go grouping and labeling folk without any sense of irony at all.

Unbelievable!

It isn't the right using the term in disgust every day on MSM and talk shows.

I just call a duck a duck.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: carewemust

There is another category that goes one beyond this; people who take one shot, but don't like how it effects their body, or maybe family members that take the second shot have grievous reactions, which changes their minds.

Or they took the first shot and then found out later about endless boosters that are planned and say "I am not doing this"

This group of people are not anti-vaxxers by any definition, as they took a single does of a vaccination the COVID one in 2021.
Yet the media and government is classifying them all the same just because they are saying no with medical a choice for their bodies.

Well, I've often heard media refer to them as unvaxxed, and that seems to play into their numbers more conveniently. If you've never been vaxxed, you're unvaxxed. If you've been fully vaxxed, you're vaxxed. If you've received one shot, you're not half-vaxxed or partially vaxxed, you're unvaxxed. Harumph!

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: carewemust
Saturday, September 25, 2021

Official Definition of an Anti-Vaxxer

A person who opposes vaccination, or laws that mandate vaccination.

Source: www.merriam-webster.com...

To me, an anti-vaxxer is someone who's against all vaccines. Like an anti-abortionist.

Just because I don't want the Covid-19 vaccine doesn't make me an "Anti-Vaxxer".

But that's how the authorities, media, and other ignorant souls are labeling us.

I don't want to be vaccinated because I don't NEED TO BE vaccinated. I have the robust natural immunity that comes with Covid-19 recovery. An immunity which is far stronger against Covid-19 infection than what the so-called "vaccines" deliver.

Not wanting a Covid-19 vaccination does NOT make me, or you, an "Anti-Vaxxer".

-CareWeMust

Because Lefties like to group and label everyone unless it is their group.

If they don't then they can't collectively call everyone anything bigoted.

There you go grouping and labeling folk without any sense of irony at all.

Unbelievable!

It isn't the right using the term in disgust every day on MSM and talk shows.

I just call a duck a duck.

Plenty of folk on here think Im a "leftie" when I'm not and I also get called a Dem, even tho I'm here in Englandland.

You lot are a bit binary.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: carewemust
Saturday, September 25, 2021

Official Definition of an Anti-Vaxxer

A person who opposes vaccination, or laws that mandate vaccination.

Source: www.merriam-webster.com...

To me, an anti-vaxxer is someone who's against all vaccines. Like an anti-abortionist.

Just because I don't want the Covid-19 vaccine doesn't make me an "Anti-Vaxxer".

But that's how the authorities, media, and other ignorant souls are labeling us.

I don't want to be vaccinated because I don't NEED TO BE vaccinated. I have the robust natural immunity that comes with Covid-19 recovery. An immunity which is far stronger against Covid-19 infection than what the so-called "vaccines" deliver.

Not wanting a Covid-19 vaccination does NOT make me, or you, an "Anti-Vaxxer".

-CareWeMust

Because Lefties like to group and label everyone unless it is their group.

If they don't then they can't collectively call everyone anything bigoted.

There you go grouping and labeling folk without any sense of irony at all.

Unbelievable!

It isn't the right using the term in disgust every day on MSM and talk shows.

I just call a duck a duck.

Plenty of folk on here think Im a "leftie" when I'm not and I also get called a Dem, even tho I'm here in Englandland.

You lot are a bit binary.

Left and right are the opposite here for you. In the UK the left would be called the right.

Not binary....just tired of the political BS from a nothing virus for the majority of the world.

originally posted by: vonclod
Isn't the J&J vac a traditional one?

No. It is a viral vector and is not an attentuated virus version as one may think.

More source.

a reply to: carewemust

I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I had all my vaccines as a kid and then tetanus, yellow fever, etc., when I went to Africa and other overseas locations in the last 40 years. I am anti-mRNA/rDNA medical treatment in clinical trials till 2023, that doesn't have long term efficacy or testing data and that has created hundreds of thousands (likely 10-100 times that number) of "the walking wounded" as well as tens of thousands of deaths (likely 10-100 times that number).

The thing they call a covid vaccine, is not a vaccine, it is no better than over the counter cough medicine for weak impressionable minds.

Cheers - Dave

you think you are going to convince anyone?

originally posted by: havok

originally posted by: vonclod
Isn't the J&J vac a traditional one?

No. It is a viral vector and is not an attentuated virus version as one may think.

More source.

Thanks

a reply to: carewemust

The official definition would seem to be tainted and incorrect, probably a recent edit.

An Anti Vaccination believer would be the real Anti Vaxxer.

Someone whom believed that Legislation requiring everyone to be vaccinated on the other hand would be actually an anti authoritarian or a believer in personal freedoms and NOT an anti vaxxer so whomever edited that one into the official definition needs to be exposed.

if someone tried to force you to take the shot, present them with this:

Date_____________

I, ____________________ Do hereby pledge all my worldly wealth and property to____________________, and survivors in the family in the event that I was wrong, and long term harmful effects are found in Covid vaccines.

Signed_________________________
Witnessed by__________________________
Notorized_______________________________

and ask that they fill it out, naming you or your family survivors the beneficiary of their things and money. It's doubtful anyone would sign it, as it's impossible to know the long term effects of covid vaccines, which is the main point of the exercise.

It's OK to not be sure about something, and it's OK to take a risk, if you are a risk taker. You just shouldn't be able to force others to take risks unless you are 100% sure they won't be harmed.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: carewemust
Saturday, September 25, 2021

Official Definition of an Anti-Vaxxer

A person who opposes vaccination, or laws that mandate vaccination.

Source: www.merriam-webster.com...

To me, an anti-vaxxer is someone who's against all vaccines. Like an anti-abortionist.

Just because I don't want the Covid-19 vaccine doesn't make me an "Anti-Vaxxer".

But that's how the authorities, media, and other ignorant souls are labeling us.

I don't want to be vaccinated because I don't NEED TO BE vaccinated. I have the robust natural immunity that comes with Covid-19 recovery. An immunity which is far stronger against Covid-19 infection than what the so-called "vaccines" deliver.

Not wanting a Covid-19 vaccination does NOT make me, or you, an "Anti-Vaxxer".

-CareWeMust

Because Lefties like to group and label everyone unless it is their group.

If they don't then they can't collectively call everyone anything bigoted.

There you go grouping and labeling folk without any sense of irony at all.

Unbelievable!

It isn't the right using the term in disgust every day on MSM and talk shows.

I just call a duck a duck.

Plenty of folk on here think Im a "leftie" when I'm not and I also get called a Dem, even tho I'm here in Englandland.

You lot are a bit binary.

but just calling you "an opposition to all things rational" it so hard to type out.

originally posted by: puzzled2
well depends on the definition of a vaccine as well. CDC just changed theirs again so
CDC Changes the Definition of Vaccines

The words "produces immunity" was totally removed on September 1st!

Holy smokes. What level of sinister are we dealing with here?

WE MUST RESIST THEM IN EVERY WAY POSSBLE.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: carewemust
Saturday, September 25, 2021

Official Definition of an Anti-Vaxxer

A person who opposes vaccination, or laws that mandate vaccination.

Source: www.merriam-webster.com...

To me, an anti-vaxxer is someone who's against all vaccines. Like an anti-abortionist.

Just because I don't want the Covid-19 vaccine doesn't make me an "Anti-Vaxxer".

But that's how the authorities, media, and other ignorant souls are labeling us.

I don't want to be vaccinated because I don't NEED TO BE vaccinated. I have the robust natural immunity that comes with Covid-19 recovery. An immunity which is far stronger against Covid-19 infection than what the so-called "vaccines" deliver.

Not wanting a Covid-19 vaccination does NOT make me, or you, an "Anti-Vaxxer".

-CareWeMust

Because Lefties like to group and label everyone unless it is their group.

If they don't then they can't collectively call everyone anything bigoted.

There you go grouping and labeling folk without any sense of irony at all.

Unbelievable!

It isn't the right using the term in disgust every day on MSM and talk shows.

I just call a duck a duck.

Plenty of folk on here think Im a "leftie" when I'm not and I also get called a Dem, even tho I'm here in Englandland.

You lot are a bit binary.

How dare you!! I, sir, am cis-political. I prefer the pro-noun Heeeeewsh (pronounced...Bob)

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: carewemust

The official definition would seem to be tainted and incorrect, probably a recent edit.

An Anti Vaccination believer would be the real Anti Vaxxer.

Someone whom believed that Legislation requiring everyone to be vaccinated on the other hand would be actually an anti authoritarian or a believer in personal freedoms and NOT an anti vaxxer so whomever edited that one into the official definition needs to be exposed.

It's amazing how easy EVERY THING can be changed online. For bad, and for good too. A few years ago, the CIA accessed a terrorist bomb manual and changed an instruction, which caused the ISIS bombmaker to blow his little group to smithereens.

originally posted by: sraven
you think you are going to convince anyone?

Just a quick suggestion, when you're posting such an open-ended reply to...someone, you should include the quote for context or at least the handle of the person you're replying to. In the above mentioned post, it might have been to the person who had posted directly above your post, but it also could have been one of several others in what is rapidly becoming a long thread. Also, it's very common for one, two, or sometimes three people to get posts up before you're even able to post yours. Not being a d###, just sayin...