German state sponsored TV channel ARD posts upcoming election results "by accident".

On Sunday 26.09 we will vote for our new government. Our 1st state sponsored TV channel, "by accident", posted a running ticker during the airing of a quiz show. The ticker was activated for a few seconds on 18:30. Results for Green party and "The Left" did not ran, ticker was deactivated before it could happen.

The ticker was deactivated in seconds but someone from twitter photographed the TV screen and posted it. So here are the results for the upcoming election, you got them here first:

Bundestagswahl Hochrechnung 17:46: Union 22.1% SPD 22.7% AfD 10.5% FDP 13.2%

Personal addition:
Since the left is not that popular, last time it was polled on the streets it was 6%. We can summarize the projected big winner by %: The green party with 25.5%.

Holger Lichtenthäler, chief of ARD, said they invented the numbers, we will see. On a serious side, we all know often several versions of news are prepared so everyone can be the fastest, but this is not something that should be ignored.


Source: twatter

Once again, it’s begs the question.
Are we watching a movie?
Maybe, maybe not.
If yes, which movie is it.....?





a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Which network is it?

I've been watching a lot of stuff from DW on YouTube recently to get my fill on foreign content. I really like their documentaries, some of the best production value without being sensational most of the time. I'd hate to have to wonder if they were doing something nefarious.

That said, things like this have happened before. Famous people's obituaries going up early because they keep a running template going just so they can be one of the first to report on something like that. I imagine those infographics are something they test to make sure the displayed numbers match the input correctly and looks right.

If their was something shady going on... You'd have to wonder why they would let so many people from a media outlet know that ahead of time and work on the "project". It would be better for none of them to know so you can just feed them BS numbers, plausible deniability. They say the more people in a conspiracy, the harder it is to go unnoticed.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Which network is it?

I've been watching a lot of stuff from DW on YouTube recently to get my fill on foreign content. I really like their documentaries, some of the best production value without being sensational most of the time. I'd hate to have to wonder if they were doing something nefarious.

That said, things like this have happened before. Famous people's obituaries going up early because they keep a running template going just so they can be one of the first to report on something like that. I imagine those infographics are something they test to make sure the displayed numbers match the input correctly and looks right.

If their was something shady going on... You'd have to wonder why they would let so many people from a media outlet know that ahead of time and work on the "project". It would be better for none of them to know so you can just feed them BS numbers, plausible deniability. They say the more people in a conspiracy, the harder it is to go unnoticed.

Well, the BBC did report, live, the collapse of WTC 7 twenty or so minutes before the building fell. The damned thing was actually in the background of the shot. Also, I went onto YT quickly to find it and attach it to this reply...seems to be gone.

I’m curious what left and right is in Germany compares to the USA. I have a feeling that your right is our left. Am I wrong?

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
AfD 10.5%

The AfD is the only anti-immigration party. Obviously the 10% is made up. In any free elections, they'd be polling way above 50%. Democracy is a sham.

a reply to: PiratesCut

I do like your movie idea. Does that mean we are all "actors" with a part to play. It is this a movie about the political elites, and their minions, and we are just watching?

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Do you folks use dominion machines. Oh that's right their Headquarters is in Frankfurt.

Maybe they should have run a disclaimer at the end saying,

This Has Been A Test Of The Early Election Fraud System, if this had been actual results you would have been instructed to accept the results as if they were true and accurate. No mail in or absentee ballots have been counted thus far. This has only been a test.

a reply to: CriticalStinker
It's state sponsored* channel "General German TV"-channel. The ARD. They took a sharp decline the last twenty years. I remember when the 8pm news were on, we kids, regardless what family, had to shut up. The anchor would present the news without opinion and emotion. No jokes. That changed in the last twenty years. Smirks smiles, double meanings. I measure the degrading of journalism with them.

Like I wrote in OP, probably a glitch, these things happen but it has to be documented. The template they ran was very accurate, of course they say it was a test.

If their was something shady going on... You'd have to wonder why they would let so many people from a media outlet know that ahead of time and work on the "project".

I agree, but it's state news, not private. In reality, just one person, the director, needs to be in it. I doubt, that if something like this was pulled off, they would give the ARD director the information. They could have just waited for results and post them then.

Like I wrote, probably a glitch but needs to be pointed out.




Add: Forgot the * explanation: We pay around 17€ per month so they can push their opinion on us.

What I read the other day made me shake my head.

No matter who wins the election, it will probably be an outcome that requires formation of another grand coalition government, and while that process takes place (the last time it took MONTHS), Merkel remains the chancellor. What will she make of her time as a lame duck?

Cheers

a reply to: LogicalGraphitti
For that you have to consider our history. Believe me that everything remotely "right-wing" will be pointed out and discussed ad nauseum.

Then you have the former DDR, where I was born but we fled before the wall came down and former West-Germany. Former DDR regions are more prone to accept leftist socialism, expecting the state to help them. But they also adopt more far right views. Germany is in that sense, political regional divided.

We had a party NPD, which was finally dissolved because of their obvious hate towards jews and foreigners and NAZI embracement. They were dismantled about 12-15 years ago. Many of those went to the AfD, which was once a very down to the ground party and not at all right-wing. Now they are the new NPD, according to the media.

We have "The Left" basically a party that is opposition with a strong tendency to the left, but with a more liberal touch. A bit anti authoritan but there are good people there too with spines that will stand up for degradation of human rights. I value them for that. Mind you, European liberalism is different from American liberalism. Personally, I am glad they exist because they harbor decent people that point out flaws where they exist. I would never vote them though.

We have the SPD, that is a social democratic party. Together with the CDU/CSU, they kind of sit left and right from center.

We have Free Voters party, I am member of that party. Free Voters are not present in every state in big numbers (one digit percentage). They value personal liberties the most, with the most common sense approach to me. I would put them 100% center. They are both traditional and progressive. For me they have the most common sense approach keeping human dignity in their sight. They are against mandate vaccinations, but that's not really the reason I am member. In their whole program they only have one point I disagree with. It's the party I can identify the most because they are down to ground, common sense and not infested with lobbyism. Yet.

We also have the Green party. Full of socialistic leftist, totalitarian party that want's to ruin us with their outrageous claims. They also harbor a lot of people that have repeatedly tried to lower the age of consent. They have roots in the 69 movement, try to fetch young people by telling them they will legalize weed, but actually never speak about it after the elections again. Interesting, we have also our own AOC and they copy US DEM tactics, like pulling racism cards and adopting "old white racist man" speak. It's obvious they have ties to US dems at least they orientate themselves on their behavior. Basically if you let them reign, they will destroy Germany in 4 years. Killing cars, economy and making life miserable for everyone.

If you make a child between the Green party and the SPD, effectively what you get is a party like US democrats.

CDU/CSU would be closes to republicans. They are mostly traditional, being from Bavaria and not that jumpy to change everything overnight, but they also have backwards views on acceptance towards different viewpoints.

We have the FDP, they are more on the liberal side, center between progressive and traditional. They disappointed a lot of us when we gave them a vote and a chance to reign, they #ed up royally.

Germany is a republic. To finally answer your question, no right is right and left is left .

originally posted by: starviego

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
AfD 10.5%

The AfD is the only anti-immigration party. Obviously the 10% is made up. In any free elections, they'd be polling way above 50%. Democracy is a sham.

That's not accurate and I think it is dangerous trying to reduce it down to single points. Fact is, some vote them for pointing the middle finger to the system because they are fed up. The 10% are somewhat accurate! About ten years ago that party was really voteable and down to the ground, but see my other posts, have been overtaken by extreme right.

a reply to: TomCollin

Voting machines are banned in Germany. This is how voting works in Germany:

Every citizen that is +18 will get a letter weeks before the elections. There you can choose if you want to letter vote, but that's supposed for old people or citizens currently not in country. You get a recipe that you bring with you. You give it to the vote helpers, they log it and you get your voting sheets.

Then you vote with pen and drop it into the ballot box. The vote sheets are not traceable, well officially. Nothing stops them from putting invisible to the eye ink dots on there like captches. Printer do that.

So this makes it impossible to vote twice if the paper card you bring wasn't faked to a point the voting helpers will be duped. You also show ID, but for example in the town I resided before, they always laughed and twinkled an eye when I did that because they know me by forename.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Yes it's always a coalition between two or three parties. We have names like "Jamaica coalition", it's a hint on flag colors. Every party has their color just like the US system.

What will she make of her time as a lame duck?

I hope not too much, she has done enough damage already. I am sick and tired of her way of reigning the country, the double speak. She was a party member of DDR, she loves socialism and double speak and just read her book then you know everything you need to know.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Well, here's wishing Germany an honest election, no matter the outcome.

Keep us posted as to your take on the election, Duck. Very interesting to hear from someone in country.

Cheers

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

I would get down to the bookies and place my bet with that advanced knowledge.

I like how you called twitter twatter. I coined that term when the site was fairly new, though I’m don’t claim to be the first to have come up with it.

I have only voted once in my life, that time we got a coalition of the conservatives and Liberal Democrat’s. Or Con-demmed as it was later termed.

Ahh the illusion of choice....

a reply to: surfer_soul

I stole it from AvE (youtube) too

He's Canadian and has a for me interesting YT channel about material science, lot's to learn from the guy. He also has kind of his own language

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

It makes you wonder if there are concerned citizens or whistle blowers on the inside who "let this slip" deliberately.

Think about the timing. A Sunday at 18:30 is a PRIME TV viewing window. What better moment to raise awareness of what's transpiring.

Your country had many honorable folks during WW2 stand up and do what they could to spread the truth of what was occurring, even if it was only small acts of honesty. Maybe we're seeing something like that now, raging against the MSM machine. Where is the analog of this in the US?

a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

Where is the analog of this in the US?

I get what you mean by this but consider this is not like 1930s Germany yet.

Yet.

A little update because I just came home from voting:

Normally, I am one of the first as they open, to get it behind me and not wait for an hour in line. Today I was a bit late and it's only the second time I voted in this district, we had state elections in spring. I expected long lines. I have never seen such empty voting houses.

Today it took three minutes and I was in my car again. Awesome! But that either means lot's of mail in voting or people not voting at all.