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The other woman — who was referred to as Jane Doe in court papers filed by Ganieva’s team on Monday — met Epstein in 2000 after a Ukrainian woman and Epstein’s alleged madam Ghislaine Maxwell encouraged her to do so since he “was a powerful businessman” who could help her as a struggling single mom, the filing alleges.
Then when the woman was “in desperate need for money,” Epstein arranged for her to meet Black, telling the woman Black could “help” her, the filing alleges.
She met Black in 2002 at Epstein’s townhouse massage room, where he gave her $300 before allegedly brutally raping her, the papers claim.
Prince Andrew has once again been served papers in the bombshell sex-assault lawsuit against him — despite reportedly missing the birth of his granddaughter while trying to avoid getting them.
An attorney for accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre filed papers late Monday stating that the lawsuit had been delivered in numerous legal ways to Andrew, whose lawyers disputed that earlier deliveries were legally binding.
originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: elementalgrove
I have no issue with nailing sex offenders to the nearest tree but at the same time, does she have any proof or is it just her word against his.
If I read this correctly this is a civil lawsuit, not a criminal suit.
originally posted by: TheMirrorSelf
a reply to: elementalgrove
Totally agree with you, I look forward to these people being brought to justice. One thing about this allegation that I just read in your OP...years long sexual relationship. I have a bit of a hard time with that one. I can see rape, but rape over years with an adult...mmmmm...I don't get that one. I'm sure that she was showered with money and gifts...I don't know, just sayin'...
New York, NY — A scathing and massive $27 million lawsuit was just filed on behalf of three Florida models against a former top investment fund manager for George Soros. Howard ‘Howie’ Rubin, 62—who was featured in Liar’s Poker, a book described as ‘defining Wall St.’—is accused of rape, assault, kidnapping, and human trafficking.
originally posted by: TheMirrorSelf
a reply to: elementalgrove
Totally agree with you, I look forward to these people being brought to justice. One thing about this allegation that I just read in your OP...years long sexual relationship. I have a bit of a hard time with that one. I can see rape, but rape over years with an adult...mmmmm...I don't get that one. I'm sure that she was showered with money and gifts...I don't know, just sayin'...
originally posted by: GoShredAK
I don't get how after epstien being officially exposed people still give credit to any politicians, even Trump tho it pains me to say.
Edwards: Nothing at all. The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn’t have to take a deposition of him in 2009.
originally posted by: elementalgrove
originally posted by: GoShredAK
I don't get how after epstien being officially exposed people still give credit to any politicians, even Trump tho it pains me to say.
I believe Trumps past action to help a victim gives him credibility, also the fact that there is no connection with him and the island. Also that Epstein/Ghislaine were finally arrested under his presidency.
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Edwards: Nothing at all. The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn’t have to take a deposition of him in 2009.
Thats encouraging....I wish he hadn't had the election stolen from him. Then just maybe we would see more justice...
It's just that all his money and his pictures with the Clinton's is a bit suspect..
originally posted by: Butterfinger
What a deal! you get to R kids all day and even though he had dirst on so many, NO ONE is getting nailed cut and dry.
Seems to me Jeff didnt have bunk an anyone, just circumstantial evidence and personal stories that only pan out to be Civil suits
originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: elementalgrove
Epstein most certainly had some goods on Leon Black.
He apparently paid Epstein about $150 million for financial advice and no one can figure out why or what Epstein did for that money. It is also hilarious because Apollo is one of the largest and most successful hedge funds / private equity companies. Why would the Leon Black need to pay a financial nobody like Epstein for financial advice when he employed thousands of financial wizards...
originally posted by: elementalgrove
originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: elementalgrove
Epstein most certainly had some goods on Leon Black.
He apparently paid Epstein about $150 million for financial advice and no one can figure out why or what Epstein did for that money. It is also hilarious because Apollo is one of the largest and most successful hedge funds / private equity companies. Why would the Leon Black need to pay a financial nobody like Epstein for financial advice when he employed thousands of financial wizards...
Very interesting!
Thank you for this addition, I would love to read up on that, where di you hear of this?
According to an independent internal probe authorized by Apollo, Black infamously paid Epstein more than $150M for "estate-planning services" over a five year period ending in 2017. The payments started after Epstein had received his initial conviction on prostitution-linked charges (which also landed Epstein on the sex offender registry).
News of Black's payouts to Epstein sparked rumors that Black might have been among a group of elite businessmen and politicians whom Epstein had managed to entrap with kompromat depicting them in sexually compromising situations - what was said to be Epstein's modus operandi.
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: elementalgrove
originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: elementalgrove
Epstein most certainly had some goods on Leon Black.
He apparently paid Epstein about $150 million for financial advice and no one can figure out why or what Epstein did for that money. It is also hilarious because Apollo is one of the largest and most successful hedge funds / private equity companies. Why would the Leon Black need to pay a financial nobody like Epstein for financial advice when he employed thousands of financial wizards...
Very interesting!
Thank you for this addition, I would love to read up on that, where di you hear of this?
It was in the news about a year ago. The Apollo Board of Directors forced Leon Black out due to his ties to Epstein.
Here is a ZeroHedge article on it...
Why Did Leon Black Pay Epstein $50 Million?
"It is true that I paid Mr Epstein millions of dollars annually for his work," said Black in a Monday letter responding to the Times report. "It also is worth noting that all of Mr Epstein’s advice was vetted by leading auditors, law firms and other professional advisors" Black added - noting that he had 'once' picnicked on Epstein's private island with his family, and that he visited the dead pedophile 'from time to time' at his Manhattan townhouse.
originally posted by: Torlin
You don't understand. To those scumbags the average person means nothing.
For example, when you build a house, do you care where the lumber is coming from? How the tree grew and lived for decades, trying to reach its maximum potential. With unique challenges and opportunities. No, you don't. You simply use the wood to your requirements without any further thought.
Same with those scumbags. They do not care, they simply use the average person as they seem fit and without further thought. And that's why the French were right to some degree with their guillotine (of course in the end they overdid it, which seems to be always the case).