I had my first Pfizer jab on Friday.

Congratulations

a reply to: Joneselius

I ain't getting it even if it means I am not allowed to breathe. Live free or die trying.
You can 'mandate' all you want.

I guess if you wanted you could say you are jabbed but you are not vaccinated or inoculated. See all the people in hospital after their 'vax'



a reply to: halfoldman

Well look, I'm not a doctor, and don't know all the medical and technical stuff.

I just did my best in the hope that we can have our lives back.

originally posted by: squittles

2nd, it's not clear whether mild infections yield much in the way of immunity. Someone who had a mild case of the alpha version can still get their ass kicked by delta. And there's not much information on the durability of that "immunity" - if the vaccination protections are fading, why wouldn't "natural" immunity?

This is not exactly true. Multiple recent studies (past couple months) are showing that the natural immunity is more robust AND longer-lasting than the vaccination's protection, to include against new variants (the efficacy of the ancestral-strain vaccine is only showing about 40% effective in Delta and is expected to continue to trend downward as new variants emerge).

3rd, an mRNA vax after a vaccination yields much greater protection by creating large numbers of neutralizing antibodies

Please cite your source, because that's not at all what the Cleveland Clinic's (and others') studies are showing. Yes, it provides a slight increase in effective immunity, but not enough to make a dramatic difference for most people with average-to-strong immune systems. Also, I assume that you meant "after an infection" and not "after a vaccination."

4th - I can't even with these vaccine conspiracy theorists ...

Some "conspiracy theories" are proving to be correct, at least to some degree. You'll have to be more specific if we're to accept your logical fallacy of de-legitimizing claims because of a source or that the 'official story' may differ.

1st - ... [and] 5th - ...

The two best points that are objectively true.

I know this was a few months ago, vax then was only for over-65, I think.

But went for my annual check-up with my HIV specialist, and he said, if I can have one Pfizer shot - combined with the natural immunity from past exposure to Covid-19 - it should make me as "protected" as I can currently get.

As far as second, third, booster shots whatever, I'll cross that bridge again in 40 days, or when we get there.

For now I've done all I could.

I am at least pleased to say: "The ball is no longer in my court".

It's a personal choice really.
The concern for me is some politicians who try to regiment the "vaccinated" against the "unvaccinated".
Almost as if people were a viral danger to each other.

I think my vax-choice only effects me really, and lowers my chances of serious Covid-19 disease.
What other people do, it's their business.

Only meaning to share my experience, not preach to anyone.

Sigh, so I'm vaxxed.
Ladida, now what could I do today?

I know, let's start a hate campaign against the unvaxxed: "Und ze unwaxed are the most selfish, ze most degenerate creatures on the planet"!

Joke, that's all nonsense.
The only mustache I like is in my pants.

(What's frightening though is, if I was not a joker and a midnight toker, I probably could set something like that up on some platforms, with very little opposition.)

Is it appropriation?


Not if used with permission.
Besides, you try and figure out how many cultures the hippies borrowed from.

Stay off the grass?

Yeah try and pitch your tipi in the parking lot.

Cartman vs. Hippies.

MASH - Suicide is painless.

a reply to: halfoldman

Compliance is the food of totalitarianism.
Normality is the carrot at the end of their stick.

originally posted by: chris_stibrany
a reply to: halfoldman

Compliance is the food of totalitarianism.
Normality is the carrot at the end of their stick.

So just for fun what would happens if "The Authorities" told you an asteroid was going to hit where you live? Would you stick to your principles of "Trust No One" and ride it out?
What if the threat was real, but your hatred of authority convinced you to stay?
Where does it end?

a reply to: canucks555


To answer your question, of course I wouldn't try to 'ride it out'
To answer your last question, it ends where you say it does. Use common sense lol....

Cartman refuses to get vaxxed - South Park.

Still alive OP?

Wow! If you read this forum and actually believed what the "Forum Majority" (Cough~ Anti Vaxers") write then I'd of thought you would have passed on or grown antlers out of your ass by now.



Fully vaxed here, No side effects, other than getting to live a normal life.

Very much alive.
Second vax still a while.

A treaty ...

Sorry, double post.