I Am A Celibate

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge

originally posted by: QFlux
Everyone that is single should be celibate according to the Bible. And if you are married you are commanded to take care of your mate's sexual desires and needs. Unfortunately this world is filled with sexual immorality, any form of sex act outside the holy bond of matrimony between a man and a woman. How sad it must make God to see humankind abuse the wonderful gift of sex the way they do. And how happy it must make the opposer of humankind, Satan the Devil. God's patience is indeed great.

I know many Christians who remain celibate if they do not marry. You are not alone. Of course even Paul said it is a gift that not all have.

Really?

Tell that to the priests

Actually this is what the Bible says:

"A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach."-1 Timothy 3:2.

The teaching of celibacy in the Church is not Biblical. As you can see here it even commands that the overseer, or bishop, is to be married to one wife.

Anyway the next chapter tells you where the teaching of celibacy in the clergy comes from:

"The inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons...They forbid marriage."-1 Timothy 4:1, 3.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
I had too many girlfriends before my marriage, I goofed up after my divorce, thinking that it would bring her back, and also because I was so lonely. Im getting hit on right now bigtime. Im celebrate too. Probably 9 years. Nothing wrong with that. Im tempted, but standing strong so far. Even if I fall, Christ has already provided forgiveness. Im standing so far

your going to be ok, Your heart is in the right place

I haven't looked at this thread since I wrote it and went to sleep. I was so glad to awake and see that you were the first respondent. I always enjoy your input. Here's the funny thing thought, and I don't know why necessarily I thought this would be true other than your avatar, but I've thought you were a woman this whole time...lol. And remember, there's nothing in the world wrong with being hit on by another. Feels good...

a reply to: QFlux

Eh no, not what i meant.
The first line in your post that i replied to was this.

Everyone that is single should be celibate according to the Bible.

Im talking about the priests having sex with kids. You know, catholic priests who are single? The ones the biggest pedophile club in the World protect, the Vatican? None of them are celibate, they've had sex with kids. Shows how much they believe in the bible doesn't it.

originally posted by: QFlux
Everyone that is single should be celibate according to the Bible. And if you are married you are commanded to take care of your mate's sexual desires and needs. Unfortunately this world is filled with sexual immorality, any form of sex act outside the holy bond of matrimony between a man and a woman. How sad it must make God to see humankind abuse the wonderful gift of sex the way they do. And how happy it must make the opposer of humankind, Satan the Devil. God's patience is indeed great.

I know many Christians who remain celibate if they do not marry. You are not alone. Of course even Paul said it is a gift that not all have.

Wow...ok. This is my first time looking at my thread, and because I was open to y'all in posting it and I loved and received EVERY SINGLE REPLY, I'm actually going to try to respond to them all.

Firstly, QFlux. Exactly right. Indeed, if you intend to marry and believe that God has made a wife or husband for you who is somewhere out there in the world, but you are having sex before time, is that not adultery? Are you not cheating on your spouse?

originally posted by: musicismagic
just remember man has a fourty day cycle. Mosses explains it about living im the desert

I'm going to have to look that up, or you could explain a bit more...

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: TheMirrorSelf

Peace to you as well.

Have you achieved this goal all on your own, or have you studied writings that help with guidance in achieving it?
--Just me and God
How long have you been celibate? How log did you abstain before reaching your goal of being as you now are.
--I haven't kept track, but several years now.
Do you think you will ever have sex again?
--Good question. I tend not to think in absolutes, so if God has a wife for me, then yes. If not, then no. Either way I am fine with that.
Are you involved with some kind of religious group? I know that there are cults that demand celibacy for members for a period of time. The Moonies insist on celibacy until their leaders pick them a spouse.
--I am not religious whatsoever. But I do hang out with people who share the common belief that in the last days we will all meet at Ruby Tuesdays on a Wednesday to celebrate the return of Lord BleepBlop over frozen margaritas and jalapeño poppers...

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: TheMirrorSelf

I honestly thought both you and visitedbythem were both middle aged women……….

My God! And you got more stars than anyone. Did everything think I was a middle-aged woman?! Hahahah...that's hilarious. Why? I'm so curious now. At least tell me you thought I was a lesbian. The hilarious thing about that is that I thought the same thing of visitedbythem! Hahahah...you can't write this stuff.

originally posted by: rickymouse
It took me years to do but I no longer have much interest in sex. I eliminated foods that stimulated sexual desire and I could have it if I wanted to but no longer crave it. We are conditioned to think it is necessary by society and they want us to believe we need medicines or supplements to be obsessed with it again. It is easier for the government and health industry to control us if we think we are inferior because we do not have sex drive controlling our lives. Sure, I was older when I did this, and I thought I had to do it to satisfy my wife yet, but talking with her she admitted she had lost interest too. We gave up lots of the food chemistry that makes you horny. Food chemistry they tout as being great because it promotes sex drive. I am tired of being convinced I need viagra to be acceptable. Sure sex is fun, but not a necessity of life.

I hear some guys still hooked on sex in their sixties and talking about the girls being so pretty because they have a full rack. I now do not even notice them anymore, but kind of do notice the guys hanging around them acting like horndogs. There is nothing wrong with not having a desire for sex, I was reading articles about monks and their diets and decided to try if I could lower my drive, it worked. My testosterone level is not low, but I am not driven by testosterone anymore mentally.

That's interesting. I haven't adjusted my diet towards this end. Honestly, it hasn't really been a physical journey for me so much as a spiritual one. I also see the men so obsessed with sex. I can no longer relate, but I find it sophomoric.

a reply to: booyakasha

Well, I certainly agree that it's not for everyone. I'm a veteran. Two things I'm not crazy about. One is people thanking me for my service (I'm not upset about it or in anyway unappreciative, it just makes me uncomfortable). The second is when I see vets walking around with these stupid caps on done up like the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade about how they served. Yeah, well congratufreakinlations. I had a job, just like everyone else. I sought it, I asked for it, I worked hard to attain it. Who thanks the teacher, the garbage man? It takes all types to run a railroad. This is as true of celibacy as the above. If we were all celibate, storks sure would be busy...

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge

originally posted by: QFlux
Everyone that is single should be celibate according to the Bible. And if you are married you are commanded to take care of your mate's sexual desires and needs. Unfortunately this world is filled with sexual immorality, any form of sex act outside the holy bond of matrimony between a man and a woman. How sad it must make God to see humankind abuse the wonderful gift of sex the way they do. And how happy it must make the opposer of humankind, Satan the Devil. God's patience is indeed great.

I know many Christians who remain celibate if they do not marry. You are not alone. Of course even Paul said it is a gift that not all have.

Really?

Tell that to the priests

I know Q misunderstood you (I read your second post), but I got it (and chuckled).

originally posted by: ConcernedCanadian
a reply to: TheMirrorSelf

because of the unanimous consensus of the 4 billion other men who live here so the *BEEP* am I.

Holy Poop! No wonder you're concerned...

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: TheMirrorSelf

AA is an agnostic program that is designed to lead the participant to a spiritual awakening (with the higher power of their own understanding) in order to fill the void inside of that person that they had previously satiated with alcohol.

I would love to introduce you to Paul Hedderman after reading what you wrote......I am sure you will appreciate him and what he has to offer.

Spiritual Awakening and the 12 Steps:

Thank you so much! I will give it a look-see...

originally posted by: XipeTotex
a reply to: TheMirrorSelf

I have always found the thought of celibacy interesting, to rid yourselves from these impulses, Have always wanted to go live in a monastery in some mountain or something, and just meditate and focus on yourself.

Maybe someday.

Maybe. I've also always had some strangely innate longing for a monastic life. It's a surprisingly powerful way of living. If you every have any questions, feel free to IM me...

Sexuality can also be a way to spiritual enlightenment.

www.sacredsexualityenlightenment.com...

And then....There's always this...."go forth and multiply"

www.openbible.info...

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: TheMirrorSelf

I don't really care what adults choose to do - or not choose to do.
Providing its consensual who really cares what other people do?

And if there is some sort of all knowing, all powerful, omniscient being I very much doubt he concerns himself with the sex lives of us mere mortals.

I know this doesn't include you but far too many people seek to impose their morals and beliefs on others.

I totally agree with paragraphs 1 and 3. 2 however, I do believe that God very much wants us to exercise sexual control (not abstinence per se, but control).

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: TheMirrorSelf


I’m celibate. It’s been about 10 years now. I was not going to bring anyone around while raising my son. Not to mention, I have been incredibly busy.

My sons older now, but I’m happy without all the bullsh#t and drama. I also don’t want to catch anything. People are hoes these days. No thanks!

Plus COVID - Ewww!

Preach it Sister! God I hate drama. HATE IT!!

originally posted by: TheMirrorSelf

originally posted by: QFlux
Everyone that is single should be celibate according to the Bible. And if you are married you are commanded to take care of your mate's sexual desires and needs. Unfortunately this world is filled with sexual immorality, any form of sex act outside the holy bond of matrimony between a man and a woman. How sad it must make God to see humankind abuse the wonderful gift of sex the way they do. And how happy it must make the opposer of humankind, Satan the Devil. God's patience is indeed great.

I know many Christians who remain celibate if they do not marry. You are not alone. Of course even Paul said it is a gift that not all have.

Wow...ok. This is my first time looking at my thread, and because I was open to y'all in posting it and I loved and received EVERY SINGLE REPLY, I'm actually going to try to respond to them all.

Firstly, QFlux. Exactly right. Indeed, if you intend to marry and believe that God has made a wife or husband for you who is somewhere out there in the world, but you are having sex before time, is that not adultery? Are you not cheating on your spouse?

Adultery is being unfaithful to your spouse while you are married. When you are not married you are free to marry with anyone you chose. Of course the Christian is commanded to "marry only in the Lord," in other words another Christian. That doesn't mean God predetermines a marriage mate for you. He gives us freedom of choice and freedom to do what we want. If we chose to marry someone that is our decision, although it should be guided by God's spirit and guidance in order for it to be blessed.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: XipeTotex
a reply to: TheMirrorSelf

Have always wanted to go live in a monastery in some mountain or something, and just meditate and focus on yourself.

If you go to a mountain, see and hear, smell and feel.

Leave your self behind.......because it is the unexamined belief in a 'self within' that destroys the harmony.
"Adi Da Samraj: “There Is No Self Within”, 1973"

I've been studying something called Mindfulness of late. Sounds exactly like the quote you left for me...

originally posted by: CJCrawley
a reply to: TheMirrorSelf

Yeah, I'm celibate too but for very different reasons. I just like flying solo.


a reply to: Freeborn

who really cares what other people do?

Pretty much everyone I meet. I feel the weight of societal pressure everywhere I go. Soon as they find out I'm unmarried with no kids they might as well paint a cross on my forehead and shout 'Unclean!'

It's always a WTF? kind of response.

So, yeah, people care waaay too much what other people do.

Agreed. The funny thing for me is that when women find out I'm unmarried with no kids, I often sense a greater desire in them. I think sometimes it's thoughts of a suitable, unattached mate, and other times it's a thrill called conquest.

originally posted by: Jubei42
a reply to: TheMirrorSelf

If there's one thing I've learned it is that with different phases of life different lifestyles work best.
You need to be older to truely know what it means to be young.
It's like 2D man in a 3D world, you know what it feels to be young but you're completely unaware of this extra dimension.
It's only natural to explore life with less self awareness at a younger age. Experience and growth in relations is a prime example of that.

All very, very well said. I particularly like the above...poignant.