We talk about Israel but look at Singapore

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
The symptoms are different, primarily Delta is a mucous forming variant. Not the dry cough people had with C19

And it is supposedly much less virulent...

Sounds like the common cold to me...

It's killed tens of thousands of people, and is the primary variant effecting the unvaxxed in both the UK and the US.

If Delta is the common cold, then your pubic grabs are started Kaiju.

a reply to: nonspecific

According to the ONS, between January and July there were just over 50,000 Covid "related" deaths (Both instances where covid killed people outright, and where they had covid but died of something else. Like being eaten alive by rats). Only 640 of these were of people who had both shots.

Approximately 38,000 of these deaths were of people who had not been vaccinated or who likely already had covid when they were vaccinated. The majority of cases were Delta variant. Which is called Kent Variant in the UK.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

originally posted by: Metallicus
The Delta variant is simply the vaccine side effects. It’s going to be a rough couple of years.

It certainly is starting to look that way.

I can't seem to understand if the medical community can actually tell the difference between Delta and regular covid when someone is infected. I'd love to see a stat about % of unvaxed who have contracted Delta, versus vaxed who have contracted Delta. That would be really telling, but I can't find it.

Personally, I'd like to see some MRIs of people who have been unjab'd and then jab'd and then get the "delta variant/adverse effects". I believe we'll find that a large percentage of cells have been killed off by micro-strokes. This is likely prevalent in every other organ in the body, because once the mRNA/rDNA is in the blood, it attacks endothelial cells which are eventually destroyed, clot out and create impasses in the capillaries killing all cells downstream via cachexia (no ATP/ADP if there's no pathway). This likely has a dramatic impact on how the immune system works as the "organs" responsible for T Killer and other cells are being ravaged by spike proteins created by human mis-instructions in mRNA/rDNA.

Cheers - Dave

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

originally posted by: Metallicus
The Delta variant is simply the vaccine side effects. It’s going to be a rough couple of years.

It certainly is starting to look that way.

I can't seem to understand if the medical community can actually tell the difference between Delta and regular covid when someone is infected. I'd love to see a stat about % of unvaxed who have contracted Delta, versus vaxed who have contracted Delta. That would be really telling, but I can't find it.

The stats from the UK are in.

www.gov.uk...
50K deaths between January and July 2021.

About 90% Delta.

38,000 deaths are unvaxxed people.
12,000 single vaxxed
640 double vaxxed.

a reply to: Metallicus

Years? i would problary say maybe in a few months. It took six months for Israel to show this spike of surges.

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

Ironic how CBC an Canadian outlet had put an amazing lie a few weeks ago.

"Vaccination key to avoiding the worst from delta variant, experts say"

Vaccination key to avoiding the worst from delta variant, experts say

They are using experts to say that COVID-19 vaccine will prevent the worst outcomes? why is the Canadian avoiding what is happening in Israel and Singapore?

Its like they are trying to make sure that people dont have second opinions on the vaxs?

originally posted by: Metallicus
The Delta variant is simply the vaccine side effects. It’s going to be a rough couple of years.

That is an interesting comment.

The Delta came out of India long before the vaccine was used, so its spread had nothing to do with the vaccine.

Viruses actually compete with each other, and once you are sick with one it is extremely hard for another to take hold too. Your body is actively fighting off viruses all the time and if one makes you sick then your body defenses are at its peak with a head full of snot, high level of immune system cells being produced so on and so forth. When a flu virus or other one come into you too they get taken out rather quickly as your body is already on full defense fighting another one first.

The Delta is extremely infectious so it just has over powered the other variants and is now the dominant one in about 85% of the world now. It seems the vaccine does help prevent infection, but the Delta is so damn infectious that vaxxed people can still get it too, but those going to the hospitals are the unvaxxed, so the vaccine is huge in helping to limit how bad one may get.

I know many people think this is all false, and so not much I can say if that is the mind set of them, but at 61 I feel a lot safer being vaxxed than not.

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: bobs_uruncle

Ironic how CBC an Canadian outlet had put an amazing lie a few weeks ago.

"Vaccination key to avoiding the worst from delta variant, experts say"

Vaccination key to avoiding the worst from delta variant, experts say

They are using experts to say that COVID-19 vaccine will prevent the worst outcomes? why is the Canadian avoiding what is happening in Israel and Singapore?

Its like they are trying to make sure that people dont have second opinions on the vaxs?

Because the CBC, Communist Brainwashing Corporation, is bought and paid for with taxpayer money by the canadian government. I am pretty disgusted with the entire lot of them, they all lie and push the libtarded propaganda. They don't rely on any science, just consensus between talking heads and @ssholes. Look at our idiot health ministers and advisors, hadju is a graphic artist, tam is bought and paid for by the WHO and CCP/PLA, Elliott (the black widow) is a real estate lawyer, etc. We have a prime moron leading a series of equally moronic tools.

Cheers - Dave

Interesting called the Kent variant. Wasn't Kent the first regions to install 5G? Two things sensored world wide that coinside. 5G and Covid. Their's a lot of talk that micromillimeter bandwidths which can lower O2 levels creating an environment in your body that reactivates dormant virus's given in flu shots with mulitiple strains. Are we really seeing variants which are the strains from flu shots? Different regions of the world have different strains up to five inserted into flu shots. If these are being reactivated we could have variants from different countries of the world forever and ever. With flue shot strains being activated every flu season. Also countries that flew astronauts beyond the protective Van Allen belts into the cosmic radiation of space have known this for decades. a reply to: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
It's killed tens of thousands of people,

BS.

and is the primary variant effecting the unvaxxed in both the UK and the US.

Funny, I'm hearing it is the other way around (mostly vaxxed with the problems)...

If Delta is the common cold, then your pubic grabs are started Kaiju.

Or, I'm just healthy, and I won't even know I have it if I ever do or did.

originally posted by: Metallicus
The Delta variant is simply the vaccine side effects. It’s going to be a rough couple of years.

Nope ......

I got the delta and I've not been vaccinated.......it almost immediately gave me pnumonia

I think one reason we're seeing spikes where the Vax is , I'd people are getting it and not knowing it because they got vaxxed and are now super spreaders and just like anything else it hits everyone to a dif degree

That being said it almost killed me and I'm still not taking the jab

Do they really think people won't put 2 and 2 together. Vaccination rate goes up so does the variant in every single country. Snap out of your slumber people. Just because no one is pointing guns doesn't mean this isn't genocide.

So what would your interpretation of those facts be?

And I think for clarity you should also include vaccine related deaths.


a reply to: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Do they really think people won't put 2 and 2 together. Vaccination rate goes up so does the variant in every single country. Snap out of your slumber people. Just because no one is pointing guns doesn't mean this isn't genocide.

This is quite an interesting video with regards to that data.

I have my criticisms of it, namely the overly dramatic music and the fact that like most things nowadays.. it operates entirely in the Critical Covid Praxis. But, the data is interesting at the very least.

To get a better read on things, we need to rely on data gathering that has the least amount of unreliability and the most consistency over time. I do not believe this exists for SARS-CoV-2 or covid. The former is identified through unreliable tests and the latter has broad enough symptoms that its difficult to parse with anything resembling meaning.

So, we should be looking at overall deaths and the like. Then, when we do, we want to examine the delta per region over the past couple decades before we begin to compare it region to region. Currently, this doesnt happen much (if at all), and when it does.. it is solely in the context of covid. Thats a problem.

What we could be seeing is the result of a near instantaneous shift in human behavior (Im vaxxed and gonna make up for lost time!) preceded by a year and a half of decisions that heavily compromise immune systems (relentless stress, diet, remaining indoors, reduced biological interactions, etc). Meaning, even if SARS-CoV-2 and covid dont exist at all, and the vaccines are literally saline across the board, I would expect to see a spike in health issues across the board along with an acompanying increase in death rates.

How much a virus, a disease, and vaccines impact this delta would require not only further examination, but proper data collection as a foundation.



I still maintain that the most critical approach we can currently take is decentralization. The world has been going in this current direction for many, many years with, in my opinion, significant planning and intent.

Just like all throughout history, the success of this massive centralization of power is predicated on the dependency of the general public on controlled systems for things like food, manufacturing, information, and energy. Attempting to "fight back" through online commentary, politics, protests, or even violent action are all doomed to fail with near certainty.

Luckily, we live in a time where that granular decentralization is not only possible.. but would be a superior option even without all the rest of this virus/disease mess. It not only removes all the points of leverage and coercion, but builds a system that is significantly more stable without massive destabilization.

...And, it can even be done through staggeringly benign and easy means like online shopping and simply building parallel systems within the ones that currently exist.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Because they were not testing vaccines in the UK in 2020. oh wait a second they did do trials in the UK before it was authorised for mass use. oops Seems like a lot of places were jabbing and allowing for the jabbed to walk freely around mutating things as they went about their daily lives.

originally posted by: nonspecific
Regardless of if it's truth, lies or exaggeration it's still just Facebook posts and not going to hold up to any kind of critical thinking is it.



a reply to: 727Sky

Are you saying industrial scientists are more trustworthy..

I'm saying that random people on Facebook giving anecdotal evidence is not something you can use while trying to formulate an accurate assessment of a situation.



a reply to: purplemer

originally posted by: nonspecific
I'm saying that random people on Facebook giving anecdotal evidence is not something you can use while trying to formulate an accurate assessment of a situation.



a reply to: purplemer

Clarify yourself. Are you saying that industrial scientists are a better source of information?

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

That being said it almost killed me and I'm still not taking the jab

Glad you got through it all ok.

You want me to to choose a better source of scientific information and the options are scientists or random people on Facebook?

That's so dumb I'm not even going to play your little game.





a reply to: purplemer