College Football Coach Fired For Refusing To Get Vaccinated

a reply to: Xtrozero

No I agree, people who have a history are most likely just doing the same with this too as they have done in the pass. That group tends to be a very small fraction of the population, but I will bet there is a huge number, 10s of millions that will use it.

Again, agreed. But The Bible does say that many are called but few are chosen, that the path is wide but the gate narrow. All I'm saying in regards to your point is that one cannot paint this issue with a brush of absolutism. Are there people such as you've described in your posts? Absolutely! Are there people (such as me) that are true in their conscience and spirit who raise this exemption with an honest heart. Most certainly...

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: MDDoxs

Sounds like he made the decision to not get vaccinated based on religious reasons. Far enough, looks like his dedication to his religion was his top priority.

He had a choice.

I think 90%+ of these "religious reasons" are total BS. I believe all the leaders in the main religions have highly suggested to get the vaccine, so as example, when a Catholic says I'm not getting it for religious reasons how can they say that when the Pope says to get it... geez

He did have a choice as you said, I'm personally not risking my families livelihood over something stupid as that though.

"Religious reasons" are based on ones relationship with God...not church doctrine.

So like "god told me not to in my head"

Probably dont need the vaccine, but some different heh medication.

Satan compelled you to say that, didn't he?

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe

originally posted by: Moon68

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: MDDoxs

Sounds like he made the decision to not get vaccinated based on religious reasons. Far enough, looks like his dedication to his religion was his top priority.

He had a choice.

I think 90%+ of these "religious reasons" are total BS. I believe all the leaders in the main religions have highly suggested to get the vaccine, so as example, when a Catholic says I'm not getting it for religious reasons how can they say that when the Pope says to get it... geez

He did have a choice as you said, I'm personally not risking my families livelihood over something stupid as that though.

"Religious reasons" are based on ones relationship with God...not church doctrine.

So like "god told me not to in my head"

Probably dont need the vaccine, but some different heh medication.

Satan compelled you to say that, didn't he?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: panoz77

That the shots utilize tissues from aborted fetus's in R&D.

They don't in anyway except for the J & J. The reality is the cells you are talking about are actually cultured cells and not cells directly out of aborted fetus. The first studies of what are called immortalised cells were once from aborted fetus back in the 70s, but the cells used today are 10,000 times removed from any fetus.

BUT the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine had no need or reason to use immortalised cells at anytime in the process.

that the shots have no long term studies to show they are safe for the human body, that “At the same time, practical reason makes evident that vaccination is not, as a rule, a moral obligation and that, therefore, it must be voluntary.”, that "the proportionality of medical interventions is established “in the patient’s judgment"."

IDK 30 years of research, first human studies over 8 years ago, so I'm not sure what your expertise is to suggest what is or is not a long term study. Still BS in use for the vast majority trying to use this way out of it. As I said, its not that I am against it used, just that I can see the BS in it.

I have no moral or legal obligation to ingest a substance that I believe based on my own research and introspection believe could be detrimental to my health and well-being. There are thousands of deaths and tens of thousands of adverse affects documented from these shots and those are only the short term acute effects, there is nothing known about long term or chronic effects from these shots.

Cool, then don't make it for religious reasons...lol

BTW your research is most likely very bias, so you are using bias and incorrect information ( like the whole fetus thing you think is real) in your decision and then suggesting it fits your moral objections and so religious...Boy that is a stretch.

You feel free to make any choice you wish, I will make the choice I feel is right with myself, my faith and my God. BS or not, it is a violation of civil rights and religious freedom in the United States. Feel free to call it BS if it makes you feel superior.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: network dude
he knew what the consequences would be for refusing the shot. he made his decision. Many more will as well. The legality of all this will come into question and if it goes like some think, those that were fired for refusing an experimental shot, will have the rest of their financial future well in hand.

But regardless, he stuck to his principals, he retained his integrity. Good for him.

Who are people going to sue? The government?

the employers. The government didn't fire them, their bosses did.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: MDDoxs

Sounds like he made the decision to not get vaccinated based on religious reasons. Far enough, looks like his dedication to his religion was his top priority.

He had a choice.

I think 90%+ of these "religious reasons" are total BS. I believe all the leaders in the main religions have highly suggested to get the vaccine, so as example, when a Catholic says I'm not getting it for religious reasons how can they say that when the Pope says to get it... geez

He did have a choice as you said, I'm personally not risking my families livelihood over something stupid as that though.

That's why I've started my own religion; The Church of F### You!
Website coming soon, along with a sign up form

a reply to: Xtrozero

That's all nice when you know it upfront there is no reason to complain.

originally posted by: panoz77
What
You feel free to make any choice you wish, I will make the choice I feel is right with myself, my faith and my God. BS or not, it is a violation of civil rights and religious freedom in the United States. Feel free to call it BS if it makes you feel superior.

Well I do agree with most of what you wrote here, My original post was just suggesting as 10s of millions try to pull the religious card it has very little to do with religion, but it seems some treat it all about religion just because someone pulls the card. I think most of us really know why though.

originally posted by: network dude

the employers. The government didn't fire them, their bosses did.

But the Government pushed the mandate, BTW I think any company has the right to fire anyone, just as anyone has the right to quite. There are some union and civil service type situations, but typically anyone can be fired etc.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: panoz77
What
You feel free to make any choice you wish, I will make the choice I feel is right with myself, my faith and my God. BS or not, it is a violation of civil rights and religious freedom in the United States. Feel free to call it BS if it makes you feel superior.

Well I do agree with most of what you wrote here, My original post was just suggesting as 10s of millions try to pull the religious card it has very little to do with religion, but it seems some treat it all about religion just because someone pulls the card. I think most of us really know why though.

One reason is as good as another. There are also medical exemptions for wearing masks too. Ever hear the term loopholes? Our overlords LOVE tax loopholes and insider trading loopholes. The simple fact is that this experimental shot should be voluntary with no excuses or reasons necessary, period.

originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein

That's why I've started my own religion; The Church of F### You!
Website coming soon, along with a sign up form

I always seen the Church of the SubGenius to be a rather attractive religion if I was going to pick one.

originally posted by: panoz77
The simple fact is that this experimental shot should be voluntary with no excuses or reasons necessary, period.

Very true...

originally posted by: MDDoxs
a reply to: TheMirrorSelf

Sounds like he made the decision to not get vaccinated based on religious reasons. Far enough, looks like his dedication to his religion was his top priority.

He had a choice.

Here’s a choice…. Take it or DIE

You good with that?

“EDMONTON: The University of Alberta Hospital has threatened to take a terminally ill 56-year-old woman off of a donor list for a lung transplant because she has chosen not to receive the new Covid-19 vaccine.”

www.jccf.ca...

Shower or oven ya got a choice.

FFS what a joke!

a reply to: NorthOfStuff

If I take it, I will die.

That’s what these morons consider as “a choice”.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Yep, not looking good for my wife either. Docs are too afraid of their collage to write exemption notes around here.

It’s looking more and more like we’re going to have to take it. We’ve agreed that she won’t and will leave her job.

I will take it and continue to work and support us.

I wonder is the Just get jabbed gang are good with this.

Probably.

a reply to: NorthOfStuff

My doc spent just a few minutes with my records and didn’t hesitate to sign the exemption.

Not that it’ll do any good in the long run.

I’ll probably be banned from flying next.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Maybe they will let you take a train.

“Between 1937 and 1939, new anti-Jewish regulations segregated Jews further and made daily life very difficult for them. Jews could not attend public schools; go to theaters, cinema, or vacation resorts; or reside or even walk in certain sections of German cities.”

www.myjewishlearning.com...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: network dude

the employers. The government didn't fire them, their bosses did.

But the Government pushed the mandate, BTW I think any company has the right to fire anyone, just as anyone has the right to quite. There are some union and civil service type situations, but typically anyone can be fired etc.

and the law is already there for all this. So it will be litigated. But Employers did the firing, not the government. The Gov, just suggested that everyone go full facist. They had the option to not do it. But as I said, either they had the right to fire them for not taking an experimental shot, not not. Court will sort all that out.