You Are Covid-19 Vaccinated - What Concerns You The Most as You Gradually Become Un-Vaccinated?.

originally posted by: Fatboy527
Here's a definition of .....Vaccination..." Treatment with a vaccine to produce immunity against a disease "....I see no immunity with any of these vaccines....just quick stop gap measures. I took the Pfizer 2 shot vaccination....I will not go for a 3rd round. Never in the history of modern medicine have they ever came up with a vaccine in a years time. Until now. I'm 58 and been waiting 58 years for the cure for the common cold virus....nothing, nathan, nada.....and it's a Corona virus as well. Kind of makes one think that we are all being duped.

Well evidence is mounting that this virus was created by US funded research. So it makes sense they would know how to vaccinate against it. That could affect the timings.

Yep, natural immunity wears off. That's why I have had the mumps 2,700 times. No wait.... I only had them once.
I had the influenza back in 1968.
I got colds when I was a kid.

Mumps and measles viruses don't mutate in the same was as influenza or covid viruses do.

I'd they were able to then you'd need boosters as they evolved.



a reply to: butcherguy

originally posted by: nonspecific
Mumps and measles viruses don't mutate in the same was as influenza or covid viruses do.

I'd they were able to then you'd need boosters as they evolved.



a reply to: butcherguy

So the disease (mumps) is still floating around out there in the world. I had mumps.
If my immunity wore off, I would get the mumps again and again.
Mutations were not discussed in the post that I was referring to.
Natural immunity 'wearing off' was discussed.
Does it wear off?
Or do we harbor T cells in our bone marrow for decades that spring up and trigger the formation of antibodies when the pathogen is seen in the body again???

I'm not sure now o think about it.

I'd always assumed lapsed imunity was down to viral mutation more than anything else.

That's why we've never beaten the flu isn't it, it's constantly evolving and evading whereas things like mumps and chicken pox are more stagnant on their ability to mutate and remain effective?

I'd like to find out though.



a reply to: butcherguy

originally posted by: nonspecific
I'm not sure now o think about it.

I'd always assumed lapsed imunity was down to viral mutation more than anything else.

That's why we've never beaten the flu isn't it, it's constantly evolving and evading whereas things like mumps and chicken pox are more stagnant on their ability to mutate and remain effective?

I'd like to find out though.



a reply to: butcherguy

Maybe that's why real scientists know that trying to eradicate Influenza or Corona Virus is a pipe dream?

This isn't new information, that's why we didn't have a Vax for the common cold.

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Phage

Why is my fully vaccinated roommate in the hospital?

Why not me? I'm unvaccinated, and should be in the low/medium range of at risk, yet here I am responding to your post.

You know who isn't? My roommate, who's in the hospital right now.

So tell me, someone with personal experience, your anecdotal, media driven rates of vaccination.

I'm pretty sure none of them offer you immunity, you just might get less sick, you know, like my roommate who's in the hospital and probably on a ventilator right now.

That's a hell of a vaccine.

If your room-mate was vaccinated several months ago, his Covid-19 antibody level may have declined dramatically, leaving him almost defenseless.

Some same the vaccine actually makes you MORE PRONE to contracting Covid-19 as it wears off, than if you'd never been vaccinated at all.

Not concerned...I am getting on living my life and not living in fear.

That's why we can only try to keep it under some level of control and protect those most vunerable to it you mean?

For the foreseeable future I'd say that was correct.



a reply to: MykeNukem

originally posted by: BlackArrow
a reply to: Phage

No its not true with natural immunity. Natural immunity still remains very high months later while the shots weaken. They just quit broadcasting that fact to support the push of vaccines due tot he billions of tax payer dollars spent on it... which were only ment to slow the spread.. Those people will indeed get covid eventually. Just depends on when.

Immunity to future infections via recovery from Covid-19, eliminates the need for vaccines/boosters.

Source 1: news.emory.edu...

Source 2: thefederalist.com...

Thus far, this has held true since Feb 2020...19 months. The CDC says re-infections are very rare.

If the CDC/MSM/GOVT really cared about us, they would advise getting tested to see if you have contracted/recovered from Covid-19, before committing yourself to being vaccinated, and before any booster shots.

But there's no revenue for pharmaceuticals, doctors; or kick-backs to Dr. Fauci, Bill Gates, or the MSM/Hollywood, unless vaccines are administered...the more the better.

originally posted by: nonspecific
That's why we can only try to keep it under some level of control and protect those most vunerable to it you mean?
a reply to: MykeNukem

Of course.

That's what reasonable people have been saying all along.

originally posted by: carewemust

Large studies are now confirming this decline in vaccine "efficacy", as it's officially called..

Just a little FYI:

The term "efficacy" is only used to describe the results of trials. Efficacy is the degree to which a vaccine prevents disease, and possibly also transmission, under ideal and controlled circumstances – comparing a vaccinated group with a placebo group.

You should have used the term "effectiveness." Effectiveness refers to how well it performs in the real world.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Hecate666
a reply to: Phage

You mentioned that natural immunity also wears off quickly.
That's simply not true.
What happens naturally is that your t cells defenders are reduced once your acute illness is over, because you don't need an army when the enemy is slain.
This doesn't mean your body forgets. Quite the opposite. Once ill, your body remembers forever, with the according file put away until another attack.
What will happen then is your body will produce specific t cells quicker. They are made on demand and highly specialised.
So good that they can even cope with variants.
Such a beautiful and working system.
Why you would muck it all up for a quickly designed manmade folly is beyond me.

Our bodies are amazing, evolved to handle daily attacks from all kinds of pathogens includinc cancers.
Everything is delicately balanced and established over millionsof years.
Then you inject yourself with a concoction that overrides everything by burrowing itself into cells all over your body only to set up factories to produce even more enemies.
If you don't die straight away from such a crazy invasion, wait what happens when a natural virus is introduced.

You have basically tuned most of your natural defences to one specific enemy only. I feel sorry for the injected.
What have you done to your bodies, are you not scared witless?
I would be.

When you learn how PHAGE operates, you'll understand that he already has answers to 90% percent of the questions he poses. He likes hearing what others think or know.

Since we are in the proper forum.

Phage (not the user) means:
"To devour"

Sort of like a bacteria, eh?

originally posted by: MetalThunder
I get the idea these pro drug injectors (walking lab experiments) would carry an iv bottle of vaccine on slow drip ..to feel safer. But only if the Government told them ... I call that brainwashed ... By their false religion of Science

You might be on-target. A Covid vaccine slow-release daily patch. That needs the prescription renewed every 6 months.

The pharmaceuticals could be petitioning the government to pay for such a scheme as we speak.

More revenue and kickbacks for everyone!

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Hecate666
a reply to: Phage

You mentioned that natural immunity also wears off quickly.
That's simply not true.
What happens naturally is that your t cells defenders are reduced once your acute illness is over, because you don't need an army when the enemy is slain.
This doesn't mean your body forgets. Quite the opposite. Once ill, your body remembers forever, with the according file put away until another attack.
What will happen then is your body will produce specific t cells quicker. They are made on demand and highly specialised.
So good that they can even cope with variants.
Such a beautiful and working system.
Why you would muck it all up for a quickly designed manmade folly is beyond me.

Our bodies are amazing, evolved to handle daily attacks from all kinds of pathogens includinc cancers.
Everything is delicately balanced and established over millionsof years.
Then you inject yourself with a concoction that overrides everything by burrowing itself into cells all over your body only to set up factories to produce even more enemies.
If you don't die straight away from such a crazy invasion, wait what happens when a natural virus is introduced.

You have basically tuned most of your natural defences to one specific enemy only. I feel sorry for the injected.
What have you done to your bodies, are you not scared witless?
I would be.

When you learn how PHAGE operates, you'll understand that he already has answers to 90% percent of the questions he poses. He likes hearing what others think or know.

Since we are in the proper forum.

Phage (not the user) means:
"To devour"

Sort of like a bacteria, eh?

I didn't know that. Sounds unpleasant. Maybe the definition varies by society. Example: "The bomb" means one thing to Terrorists, and another thing to Hip-Hoppers.

originally posted by: nonspecific
I'm not sure now o think about it.

I'd always assumed lapsed imunity was down to viral mutation more than anything else.

That's why we've never beaten the flu isn't it, it's constantly evolving and evading whereas things like mumps and chicken pox are more stagnant on their ability to mutate and remain effective?

I'd like to find out though.



a reply to: butcherguy

Here is a link to a paper that talks about lasting immunity and T-cells: Nature.com

We have previously demonstrated that patients who recovered from SARS have T cells that are specific to epitopes within different SARS-CoV proteins that persist for 11 years after infection

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Hecate666
a reply to: Phage

You mentioned that natural immunity also wears off quickly.
That's simply not true.
What happens naturally is that your t cells defenders are reduced once your acute illness is over, because you don't need an army when the enemy is slain.
This doesn't mean your body forgets. Quite the opposite. Once ill, your body remembers forever, with the according file put away until another attack.
What will happen then is your body will produce specific t cells quicker. They are made on demand and highly specialised.
So good that they can even cope with variants.
Such a beautiful and working system.
Why you would muck it all up for a quickly designed manmade folly is beyond me.

Our bodies are amazing, evolved to handle daily attacks from all kinds of pathogens includinc cancers.
Everything is delicately balanced and established over millionsof years.
Then you inject yourself with a concoction that overrides everything by burrowing itself into cells all over your body only to set up factories to produce even more enemies.
If you don't die straight away from such a crazy invasion, wait what happens when a natural virus is introduced.

You have basically tuned most of your natural defences to one specific enemy only. I feel sorry for the injected.
What have you done to your bodies, are you not scared witless?
I would be.

When you learn how PHAGE operates, you'll understand that he already has answers to 90% percent of the questions he poses. He likes hearing what others think or know.

Since we are in the proper forum.

Phage (not the user) means:
"To devour"

Sort of like a bacteria, eh?

I didn't know that. Sounds unpleasant. Maybe the definition varies by society. Example: "The bomb" means one thing to Terrorists, and another thing to Hip-Hoppers.

Yea, that's sick, bro.

Personally not concerned about much or interested in getting boosters for at least a year or two.

I had AZ, there's no sign of the immunity wanning after 18 months, I'm under 50 and don't have an auto-immune disorder so the efficacy is still pretty much identical. Having a booster wouldn't offer much if any advantage for me.

Covid is a corona virus, corona viruses are from the cold family, how many times people needs to be reminded that until this day in history, is not cure for common cold or any vaccine have been made to fight it.

So from the beginning of this stupid scaremongering pandemic many has told that covid is never to be eradicated or cured.

What people are probably getting in the jabs is the same crap that people gets from flu, to supossely make it better, and a false sense of security, while pharma makes insane profits but that is another lie as flu also mutates every soo many years, now covid can mutate every day just like colds can do, making any jabs useless within days of been injected.

Only when you get enough colds and get over it as the you get older, colds are not as bad, until your immune system starts to get old and then it becomes a problem with infections or you have underlying health conditions.

When the jab was given all the elderly ladies in my zumba class took it, all white littler ladies, they were all unmasked and happy dancing their way out, now they are all back in 2 and 3 mask, complaining of covid again.