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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: bastion
Where I live (Illinois) has a horribly designed website that is filled with lies and omissions, including the "Get vaccinated and end the Pandemic" bullsh'it Biden and his people are spouting.
Starting on the front page of: coronavirus.illinois.gov...
So I set my sights to the state 20 miles north of where I live (Wisconsin), and found more data...unfiltered data.
originally posted by: TrollMagnet
a reply to: bastion
That is not an argument whatsoever. You are trying to refer to some higher power like a mathematician to be the only form of data you will accept for numbers that prove the narratives incorrect.
originally posted by: MrEnergy
a reply to: carewemust
Was going to link the breakthrough pdf, but thought it might be overkill as I wanted to focus on the probabilities of dying between vaccinated and unvaccinated based on their own statistics. Their graphs on the breakthrough pdf are meant to scare people. Look at figure 2. It’s hard to tell, but breakthrough cases are super scary.
originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: Bunch
Does anyone know how they are counting the J and J jab? When they say fully vaccinated they mean 2 weeks post second jab, so do they consider those who took the J and J vaccinated?
In July, J&J released the results of two studies that found that people who were vaccinated with the single-dose vaccine elicited an immune response against the delta variant and that the immune response lasted for at least eight months.
And in early August, a clinical trial that followed nearly 500,000 health care workers in South Africa found that the J&J vaccine was 71% effective against hospitalization and 95% effective against death due to the delta variant.
In early August 2021, the South African government released data showing that against the delta variant, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine provides 65% to 66% protection against hospitalization and 91% to 95% protection against death. This lower efficacy against delta means some fully vaccinated individuals will get infected.
originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ
a reply to: carewemust
The other part of the lie is that 14 days after the jab you are not counted as vaccinated.
So when you die or you are hospitalized for vax related problems right after the jab you are counted as not fully vaccinated. This makes the 23 % number even less valid.
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