Israel Reports Highest Case of Covid Cases Dispute Third Booster Shots.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe

originally posted by: HawkEyi
Israel has now recorded the highest cases of covid since the pandemic had started. If you go to google and type in Israel covid cases.
If we compare the cases from last year in the same month. Before the rollout of the mRNA vaxs.

Israel
Sep 1 2020
2,252 7 day avg 1,757

Sep 2 2021 after the third booster shots.
13,900
day avg 7k.

The Mainstream news outlets arent reporting what is happening in Israel yet they had no problems reporting the supposed success of the Third Booster shots.

But it is crazy to witnessed and to see the data from Israel going this high dispute the Third Booster Shots and vaccination. Of course they would be blaming the rise of the covid cases on the un vaxed but Israel is the nation that has highest numb of vaxed.

They have a very low death rate, so all seems to be working.

Biden told us not long ago that 'if you get the vax, you won't even get sick'.
Sounds like it is working just as well as the Afghanistan pull-out.

Source, please.

Fauci said that the vax would reduce but not illiminate sickness. Looks like Fauci was on the money.

Did he mention that leaky vaccines might generate deadlier strains and endanger all of humanity...and that they have no clue if they will or won't?

a reply to: HawkEyi

But what about those who experience side effects of the vaxs?

All medicines including vaccines have side effects and some people can have adverse reactions to them , so far the vaccine seems to have lowered death rates and eased pressures on hospitals which is what they were intended to do.

originally posted by: mikegaiser
The shot only works for the original strain, not for the new strains.

Not completely true. It is reducing severity and death even in delta cases.

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe

originally posted by: HawkEyi
Israel has now recorded the highest cases of covid since the pandemic had started. If you go to google and type in Israel covid cases.
If we compare the cases from last year in the same month. Before the rollout of the mRNA vaxs.

Israel
Sep 1 2020
2,252 7 day avg 1,757

Sep 2 2021 after the third booster shots.
13,900
day avg 7k.

The Mainstream news outlets arent reporting what is happening in Israel yet they had no problems reporting the supposed success of the Third Booster shots.

But it is crazy to witnessed and to see the data from Israel going this high dispute the Third Booster Shots and vaccination. Of course they would be blaming the rise of the covid cases on the un vaxed but Israel is the nation that has highest numb of vaxed.

They have a very low death rate, so all seems to be working.

Biden told us not long ago that 'if you get the vax, you won't even get sick'.
Sounds like it is working just as well as the Afghanistan pull-out.

Biden is an idiot.

If he said that he was misinformed or just...an idiot.

As are those who put him in there.

Bases are loaded, and Casey's at bat. Ready to duck? Oops, too late!

a reply to: Xtrozero

Couldn't possibly have anything to do with exposure? It's only a highly contagious virus that's been circulating nearly 2 years?

a reply to: gortex

All medicines including vaccines have side effects

Yes but none of them that can cause or require you to take other medications for side effects. Most of those side effects on other drugs are minor.

Heart Inflammation is not caused by drugs that had being in tested for years.

eased pressures on hospitals which is what they were intended to do.

And how many are there patients going in hospitals for the side effects for a vax that has low efficiency?

This is interesting to follow because if you look at their death rate from a year ago it's not much different.

originally posted by: TheLead

Couldn't possibly have anything to do with exposure? It's only a highly contagious virus that's been circulating nearly 2 years?

Delta is driving a number of states to new levels of daily exposure rates while death rates are low, so IDK but I bet the vaccine is working...

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe

originally posted by: HawkEyi
Israel has now recorded the highest cases of covid since the pandemic had started. If you go to google and type in Israel covid cases.
If we compare the cases from last year in the same month. Before the rollout of the mRNA vaxs.

Israel
Sep 1 2020
2,252 7 day avg 1,757

Sep 2 2021 after the third booster shots.
13,900
day avg 7k.

The Mainstream news outlets arent reporting what is happening in Israel yet they had no problems reporting the supposed success of the Third Booster shots.

But it is crazy to witnessed and to see the data from Israel going this high dispute the Third Booster Shots and vaccination. Of course they would be blaming the rise of the covid cases on the un vaxed but Israel is the nation that has highest numb of vaxed.

They have a very low death rate, so all seems to be working.

Biden told us not long ago that 'if you get the vax, you won't even get sick'.
Sounds like it is working just as well as the Afghanistan pull-out.

Source, please.

Fauci said that the vax would reduce but not illiminate sickness. Looks like Fauci was on the money.

Politifact

“You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”

He just said this on July 21, 2021.... did the science change since then?

originally posted by: mikegaiser
The shot only works for the original strain, not for the new strains.

In reducing initial symptoms it still works. In preventing contagion it is reduced. Delta is a very fast spreader too, so there are other things going on that is pushing higher infection numbers.

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
This is interesting to follow because if you look at their death rate from a year ago it's not much different.

How do you figure...

308k deaths in about 10 months of both COVID and pneumonia, and about 20k of the same this year in 8 months...

a reply to: HawkEyi

Yes but none of them that can cause or require you to take other medications for side effects.

The side effects are generally mild I am unaware of people taking medication for them.

And how many are there patients going in hospitals for the side effects for a vax that has low efficiency?

None in my local area that I'm aware of , but then they'd probably keep that quite :-)
Seasonal Flu vaccine is about 46% effective so by that standard the COVID vaccines are very effective.

originally posted by: HawkEyi
Israel has now recorded the highest cases of covid since the pandemic had started. If you go to google and type in Israel covid cases.
If we compare the cases from last year in the same month. Before the rollout of the mRNA vaxs.

Israel
Sep 1 2020
2,252 7 day avg 1,757

Sep 2 2021 after the third booster shots.
13,900
day avg 7k.

The Mainstream news outlets arent reporting what is happening in Israel yet they had no problems reporting the supposed success of the Third Booster shots.

But it is crazy to witnessed and to see the data from Israel going this high dispute the Third Booster Shots and vaccination. Of course they would be blaming the rise of the covid cases on the un vaxed but Israel is the nation that has highest numb of vaxed.

Why are you comparing Sep 2, 2020 with Sep 2, 2021? There's nothing particularly significant about choosing 2 random dates and comparing the numbers. A more significant comparison would be the numbers now, compared to the worst they've been. Right now the daily deaths are about 30/day, plus or minus a bit and last winter they were 60/day.

Also, according to IHME, the UK has a higher rate of vaccination than Israel (64% vs 59%).

covid19.healthdata.org...

covid19.healthdata.org...

a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

No, it's not 45 years and up; it's 65 years and up; worsening with age. 65+ age group represents .783 (78%) of the total covid deaths (496,680/633,786) but only about 16.5% of the total population.
Conversely, those aged 0-49 represent a good percentage of our population but only 5% of the Covid deaths.
www.cdc.gov...

originally posted by: gortex

Seasonal Flu vaccine is about 46% effective so by that standard the COVID vaccines are very effective.

Add in other variables like viruses compete, and we see this as other variants die out, so the normal flu had to also compete with COVID. Also, how they come up with the sampling for a typical flu season I'm sure was not properly perform with the pandemic as the front runner. I caught the normal flu twice in the last year as example, so I think it is still here.

originally posted by: gortex
None in my local area that I'm aware of , but then they'd probably keep that quite :-)
Seasonal Flu vaccine is about 46% effective so by that standard the COVID vaccines are very effective.

A lot of people don't bother with flu shots because they aren't very effective. And, they are basically equally effective as of the 'settled new science,' reported this week.

We really have no idea how effective they are. That's the truth. We're finding out in 'real-time.' But, noooo, you can't do that with Ivermectin. It must be studied and studied and studied....until everyone has been forced to get the jabs. And, even then, more studies might need to be done. 🙄

originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Covid also has a very low death rate for people under the age of 65.

.003% for kids or much lower considering how many had it w/o being tested for it.

So we don't really know if it's working.

Last year on Sept 2, there were only 16 deaths compared with this year's 36.

Then add in natural immunity for those that had covid is more effective than the vaccines, but those with natural immunity are getting the vaccine. But the vaccine is getting more credit.

Then. Anyone know the real mortality rate of delta? Doesn’t viruses usually become less lethal as they change in variants?

originally posted by: neutronflux
Doesn’t viruses usually become less lethal as they change in variants?

That is typical as the viruses can't replicate if the host is dead. But when you have leaky vaccines...you can end up with deadlier variants...(eg. Marek's disease in chickens).

a reply to: HawkEyi

Nobody can kill a cold virus, Covid will live until everybody gets sick and create antibodies, plain and simple.

I am starting to think that Israel is working with big pharma for push of the boosters, the more the better, for profit making.

a reply to: HawkEyi

Figures in Israel will never match 'standard' figures in the rest of the world. You get normal secular society then you get the Haredim who are a law to themselves and follow their own rules on keeping a (non) safe distance etc