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Gender Identity...you is what you is

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posted on Sep, 4 2021 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: Shoujikina

It's just arbitrarily decided.

I could go on about these things, but I guess people can agree; there is a very strict masculine role that men are expected to completely conform to and identify with, and some human beings living in masculine bodies have a problem with this - understandably.

So this kind of FORCED false identity, even if it's -based- on biological facts (men are naturally more inclined to certain things, but they shouldn't be forced to anything), is a problem.

I guess that's why many people, especially men, are grasping at these straws that the 'activists' are throwing them, and then taking it way too far. It's ok to NOT want to identify with 'man' just because of your body's genitalia. But it's stupid to believe that by arbitrarily choosing some other identity, you somehow magically BECOME that something. That's taking it too far, that's just insanity at that point, it of course doesn't work.

Woman doesn't become a man because she goes to an office and someone in white coat puts an X on a certain application. She doesn't become a man just by 'identifying as a man'. You don't turn to attack helicopter by identifying as such. This is where the crux of the problem is; the 'freedom to NOT have to identify as gender, just because your body has one' was turned on its head to 'you can become anything by identifyin as such'.

In my viewpoint, a human being is energy, pure, genderless energy, that can't be destroyed. This means, a soul is an eternal lifeforce. A physical body is temporary; it is born, and it dies, while never being really alive in itself, only with the help of a living soul.

As soul has no gender, it's a bit false to identify as a gender - therefore, there's -really- no truthful 'gender identity', even though people that obsess with the physical body, often obsess with 'being' a gender and thus trying to obtain one.

You have no gender, your physical body does. You are energy, your physical body is.. well, technically, it's also atoms and such, which are not purely physical things, but for all intents and purposes, your physical body is just a tool that you're using only for a time, then you go away and the body rots or is turned to ashes.

People of this planet seem to think 'I am body' instead of 'I have a body'. This probably leads to the whole confusion of 'free identity'. Sure, you're free to identify as anything you want - I like to keep it real and true, so I identify as 'human being' or 'energy pulsation' or whatnot. I do not identify as gender, nationality, flag, job, car, etc.

Just because you don't have to identify as 'man' just because you live in a male physical body, doesn't mean you can freely identify as anything you want and everyone else has to respect your insanity, it doesn't mean you become that 'anything you want' just by identifying with it. You still better face the reality that people still see you first as 'man', and only secondarily as 'human being' (if at all), and never anything else unless you do something drastic to 'deserve' it, and it's still gonna be within pretty narrow confines, most likely. No stranger is going to look at you and think you're a 6 year-old girl or attack helicopter.

If they like you, after a long discussion, they might indulge and humor you for awhile, but even they don't expect you to -realistically- identify as something completely out of bounds.

The freedom to identify whatever you want can happen silently within yourself, you don't have to tell anyone, and no one else has any obligation to accept it. My identity is easy, because even if people try to force some kind of gender or whatnot on me, it's pretty easy to explain and people often tend to agree at least that we are indeed human beings first, even if they don't quite understand my 'energy ball' identity.

Someone that identifies as some manga girl or spacecraft might have more explaining and convincing to do, but that's why it's better, easier and less hassle to just identify with what you REALLY are, your innermost self that's eternal - if you listen to that part instead of looking at the temporary bits you're surrounded by, you might actually feel good about identifying as something deeper and more everlasting than some biological, crude blob of mass that's soon in a grave or urn.

That's why, in the end, at least in my opinion, it would be the healthiest and best to identify with the most real self you actually are, instead of trying to reach for this or that, like a lunatic in a candy store, or imagining being this or that, only to some day realize that's not really what you actually, truly are.

In any case, identity is a pretty small thing in life, you shouldn't make it the core main center, no matter WHAT it is.. I almost never think about it unless I see a topic like this, or if it happens to become a topic of conversation, and I am often shocked how shallow other people's view on 'identity' is.. it's always 'what's your gender / so what do you do / so where do you live / so what is your physical body shaped like' and so on. That last one was a bit of an exaggeration, but these questions usually amount to being interested only on what kind of muscle-skeleton coat I am wearing, and no questions about what I am like as a human being, what my personality is like, what kind of creations do I like, have I explored anything interesting lately, and so on.

If people would let go of their obsession about the physical body, we could be human beings much more easily, and thus communicate more effectively and understand each other better, and the world would be such a better place for everyone to live in. Think about how many problems come from this kind of things - religion, body, nationality, and other such temporary or artificial things. It's like people fight over anything and everything.. instead of being real about themselves and trying to understand the reality of others as well.



posted on Sep, 4 2021 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: Shoujikina

Thats an interesting take on it. I cant say if a soul has a gender or not. I suppose it is possible. But in these bodies discussing that potential seems a bit disingenuous. Bodies with gender contemplating a life form without a gender or body. I would also have to allow for the possibility that it is the gender of the soul that determines whether the body becomes male or female.

As you pointed out though, its not that the gender actually changes - it doesn't. What changes is the way the person is perceived or treated. If a man wants to be treated like a woman, or a less masculine man, that is his choice. Others have the choice of agreeing to treat him the way he wants to be treated or ignore him. That is freedom.



posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: Shoujikina

I wanted to add that the "you is what you is" part of the title is a reflection on the character Mr. Wizard. That is how he spoke in the cartoon I referred to. He was the source of knowledge and experience in that cartoon and I thought it fitting to use his expertise in the title.




posted on Sep, 8 2021 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: Vroomfondel

I think everyone is entitled to their own good time. They should enjoy their good time. they should also be very careful not to let their good time, encroach on my good time. If that happens, neither one of us will have a good time, and it should never be that way.



posted on Sep, 9 2021 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: Shoujikina

This is an interesting perspective. I wonder what the christian crowd thinks about the gender of the soul/spirit.

Does the soul have a gender? If so, could a masculine soul inhabit a body with two X chromosomes? Perhaps god doesn't make mistakes. But then, if so, all of the people who see themselves as transgender are supposed to be trans in god's perfect world. If there is no such thing as a gendered spirit, who the heck cares how people present themselves? I don't think we should force people to act a certain way because of their chromosomes or genitals. Humans are a wonderfully strange and diverse animal.



posted on Sep, 9 2021 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: joejack1949

One of the problems there is God made gay bashers, bigots, racists, murderers, pedophiles, etc., too. The excuse "God doesn't make mistakes" is not a get out of jail free card from the consequences of a persons actions. We were given free will. The concept of right and wrong, good and evil, is proof enough that not everything we do is okay just because we are able to do it.

The concept of a soul with a gender works against the trans crowd. If the soul influences the outcome of the body then the "gender" of the soul is correct for the body it inhabits. A male soul would not be trapped in a female body if the soul determines the gender. If gender is strictly a matter of the body then the soul has no gender. Not to mention the fact that you won't find many trans people who believe in God in the first place. At least the people I have encountered seem to be more atheist, or at most spiritual without acknowledging the concept of "God". I am sure there are exceptions but I don't believe there are many.



posted on Sep, 10 2021 @ 02:15 AM
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“Live your life and let other people live theirs”

Unless they’re not vaccinated against the most harmless virus in existence, then it’s ok to inject yourself into their lives

Because not taking a truly pointless vaccine is ‘delusional’
Unlike believing you’re ‘trapped in the wrong body’, which is sane and normal. And stunning. And brave.



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