Universal Healhcare mandates Vaxports.

All of the kuntrees that have or will have Vaxports have one huge thing in common, Universal Healthcare. Noone wants their money to be spent on healtchcare when the holders of that money aren't representing safety for the people.

If the U.S had Universal Healthcare we would be implementing Vaxports already at a federal level too. It would be a waste of money not to.

People should be happy we don't have Universal Healthcare because it inuates that we need a governing system to protect our health, which we are fully against as a nation as a whole. The rights to choose about our bodies in some context is what Americans want or need to stay happy & thriving as communities.

Australia, Canada, almost all Europian kuntrees have Universal Healthcare. If they weren't using the money to protect people than what would all the taxpayers be for?, billions of dollars in bandades?

haha I made that correlation last night.

a reply to: ObviousTruth

Here in Canada is very similar to the States.

They haven't mandated vaccines at the Federal level, just some Provinces.

Each Province will decide for itself, for now.

Also, Canada doesn't have Universal Health Care, ours is provided Provincially.

I get your point though.

Also, you have only to look at Australia to see why we Americans hold on to our gun rights.

Over in Oz they're learning how fast government can turn on them no matter how many rights they supposedly have.

a reply to: MykeNukem

Canadian healthcare is provided by Universal Healthcare statutes. Universal HealthCare is where you pay in taxes to let anyone be seen by a doctor, even if they can't pay. If you broke in the U.S & don't have insurance you ain't being seen by a medical professional unless it is in the emergency room which is extremely costly.

It will defianatly take a few years to pass through courts to be at federal level, but going off providences it is extremely easy to mandate after a few providences take ownership of certain ascertainable laws.

States are much harder to do this with because there are so many to federally just follow a strict governing rule. & without Universal Healthcare they can't say they are wasting our money by not doing it because we aren't giving them any to do it with. Except we do pay for insurance but only for those that have the insurance, not everyone.

a reply to: ObviousTruth

States that have tried forms of universal health care end up spending staggering portions of their state budget on it. You'll note that Canada not only has high taxes, but they also have a VAT style scheme on top of it.

a reply to: ObviousTruth

Health care in Canada is dealt with provincially as Myke said. I know this for a fact. I was not able to go to the doctor's because BC medical did not believe I still existed because I forgot to update my after moving. I had to reapply for MSP or pay to go to the doctors.

In the US with all the people on ACA, they could mandate it or else have the premiums changed and reflective for those with vax vs without vax. They could also mandate it on all those on the government assistance, Medicaid and Medicare as well as State funded medical plans.

Yeah, I can so see this going down the ch#itter real fast.

a reply to: MykeNukem

I hope there is a pushback agaisnt this. I dont see going well. Even for those who were vaxed. I think most vaxed are going to the hopstials our MSM here wont mention that.

originally posted by: ketsuko
Also, you have only to look at Australia to see why we Americans hold on to our gun rights.

Over in Oz they're learning how fast government can turn on them no matter how many rights they supposedly have.

Ain't that the truth.
Seems the aussies are the first world test rats for everything.

Eh? It's illegal under UK and EU human rights law, any attempts to mandate it would be thrown out by the ECHR. It's also illegal to deny healthcare based on someone's vaccination status.

Private health info is 'special catagory data' and it's illegal to demand people reveal their vax status let alone discriminate against them if they are or aren't vaxed in Universal/Nation Health Services - in the US those records are sold for profit to private companies under the guise of research.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: ObviousTruth

States that have tried forms of universal health care end up spending staggering portions of their state budget on it. You'll note that Canada not only has high taxes, but they also have a VAT style scheme on top of it.

We certainly pay the price tax wise for our social systems.

We have a tax on taxes ffs.

originally posted by: dug88
a reply to: ObviousTruth

Health care in Canada is dealt with provincially as Myke said. I know this for a fact. I was not able to go to the doctor's because BC medical did not believe I still existed because I forgot to update my after moving. I had to reapply for MSP or pay to go to the doctors.

I was suspicious a couple years ago when they dropped the user fee and sure enough now nobody pays and nobody has a say.

a reply to: StoutBroux

Maybe. We aren't paying taxes for random people without insurance to get treatments though for something that is completely avoidable. It is not a huge waste of money for not having Vaxports like that. Noone should have to pay for Universal healthcare without Vaxports because it is just a huge waste. If people have insurance than they are good in the U.S. It would be hard to push Vaxports for insurance that is specifically meant to help the people on it, not every person with a slight cough scared of Covid.

I can see a lot of people commenting have no clue about how healthcare works or what Universal Health care actureally is. It is what it is though. If the U.S gets Vaxports than we better get Universal Healthcare too because people shouldn't be paying for unecessary procedures for what is seemingly no reason.

It would actually lower costs of some premiums due to less exposure risks. Can't charge for something that can't happen. After the emergency decloration is completely nullified, prices will skyrocket because of the risk involved unless we take those certain actions.

What is a kuntree?

a reply to: ObviousTruth