Operation Starfall.....anyone know anything?

There was an RPG once by that name.
www.drivethrurpg.com...

World War Two ...

A Special Forces team in Alaska tracks down strange radio transmissions, fearing a Japanese invasion. Instead they are led to a remote island, a strange ship and time torn asunder! This mission module includes maps of a mysterious island, a thirteen deck mysterious derelict ship and full stats for the horrors and wonders included within.

The greatest generation faces horrors beyond the stars and time and more familar dangers as horror meets dieselpunk! It is fully compatible with Operation WhiteBox or other OSR games. It has a 57 page adventure book and 27 pages of maps (Referee and player versions) detailing a wrecked spaceship with additional illustrations of machinery and equipment.[/ex]

a reply to: Vasa Croe
Judging by the trends I see

It will be the morning star they talk about

a reply to: Vasa Croe

“I am of a similar thought. This seems like it will be an action of some sort. I am curious as to the locations of each congressman that sponsored it and how that may be relevant. I can't really figure out any connections with those particular states that would stand out....FL, NY, WV, GA, AR, SD, MS and MO. ”

Maybe the only connection is that a bunch of likeminded Republicans got together to discuss an issue that’s been in the planning stage for a while, and now they want to green light it?

originally posted by: DAVG1980
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Judging by the trends I see

It will be the morning star they talk about

Hmmm… interesting take.

originally posted by: StratosFear
The weapon test in Dugway, Utah comes to mind. Fried a security guy it worked so well, rumors were from something Scalar microwaved flavor in nature to some really Sci-Fi sounding anti-matter dial to yield system.

Particle Beam Test Dugway, Utah.

The only problem with that is that the directed energy tests in Utah probably had nothing to do with the Air Force. I think it was more likely the Defense Threat Reduction Agency or perhaps the Missile Defense Agency.

a reply to: Thoughtcrime

I wouldn’t place too much importance on a connection to the ultimate purpose or method of an operation. Since WW2, the U.S. has used a random word generator to come up with a project or operation name. But that seems to have fallen out of favor for political reasons over the last twenty-plus years. For example, huskies don’t typically live in Sicily, but the Allied invasion of Sicily in WW2 was “Operation Husky”. By 2001, politicians and generals were using feckless code names like Operation Iraqi Freedom. Pretty unimaginative.

I saw an interview where this was mentioned. If I can dig it up I'll share it in here.

a reply to: MDDoxs
You tell me. I was just making up nonsense strategies just like the current US administration.

originally posted by: Darkstar12
I saw an interview where this was mentioned. If I can dig it up I'll share it in here.

If you can't find it, do you happen to remember what it was in reference to?

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: MDDoxs
You tell me. I was just making up nonsense strategies just like the current US administration.

Ahh I get it.

If I may do the same -- It could be a new Chem-Trail strategy to release a chemical compound that will give everyone amnesia in the region so they can be on the same playing field as Biden.

a reply to: cmdrkeenkid

I'll concede that point, MacDill does serve as that HQ for a reason.

However, I'm still not entirely convinced the military would put ALL their eggs in one FL base basket. I still think if it's in orbit, which is what I'm assuming rather than land-based (which would be more logical if we're considering other bases, IMO) that the buildings wouldn't need to be many to operate a system such as that. It was internally spruced up to be a tech center for operations, this would work fine with Patrick SFB.

That's NOT to say I think they're dumb enough to forgo a back-up base or several for Just In Case use. I'm sure they have more than one spot in mind to reroute to in the event of SHTF.


a reply to: Quadrivium
Ha, I remember that game, my husband was in the Alpha tester group. It was pretty crappy in Alpha, the Beta testers had a muuuuch better go of it. I still didn't care much for the interface, or the overall gameplay, though. The mechs were still fun either way, however

The only other thing in search engines has to do with a Mario brothers RPG. And bringing back said game. Maybe Sec. Of Air Force is a big Mario fan?

This one is a real reach....back in the 80s there was a t.v. cartoon called Centurions. About special forces fighting in space with special suits.
One episode was called operation starfall.
I never heard of, let alone watched the show. So I haven't the foggiest idea on what its about.

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: Vasa Croe

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I swear, this screams like a big, FAT hint at that space weapon reveal we've been promised this year. And considering the name, it makes sense. Starfall being a term for falling stars, could be the oggity boogity space rock weapon that's been theorized.....

Having worked on "space rock" defense for 25 years at NASA, the first thing to say is that there is no oogity boogity space rock weapon under development because it doesn't make any sense, militarily. It is theoretically possible to steer a space rock onto a collision course with some particular location on Earth's surface, but it would make a really lousy weapon. First, you would have to find a candidate space rock that's on a course that would bring it close to Earth, then you would have to go out and nudge it onto the correct collision course. The first problem with that is that any space rocks that would be in the right size range and have the right orbits appear randomly and would take years to be steered to a chosen target. If we started right now, we might be able to find a space rock and put one on Moscow, for example, in 20 years or so. If our targeting is off a little bit, we might hit London instead. The Russians, of course, would know that we targeted them and have 20 years to deflect the rock toward Washington, for example. Hardly useful as a first strike weapon or a deterrent.

Your first idea, that this is referring to the recently discussed space weapon reveal seems to me very likely to be the correct answer. The term "Starfall" could easily refer to an ASAT weapon that is capable of removing a satellite from orbit--either literally or functionally. I have heard rumors for years from friends of mine at high levels in the USAF Space Command that there were Special Access Programs being developed for this capability. If so, there would probably already be assets in space for this purpose, and they would probably be run out of Peterson AFB--HQ for Space Command. I believe that this bill that was introduced was part of the markup process for the Fiscal Year 2022 budget. As such, it would imply that funds for this operation would be expended within a very short period of time. That would mean that the Secretary of the Air Force is being told to go out and use/demonstrate a capability that is already in existence, as opposed to developing an entirely new capability. That's consistent with referring to this as an "operation" rather than a "project".

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Hopped on the laptop to do some digging. Just curious who the sponsors of the bill are and maybe something about their districts that can clue us in a bit more.

Michael Waltz, Republican, Florida 6th Congressional District.
Sits on the Subcommittee for Space and Aeronautics.
The 6th Congressional District covers from Jacksonville to just north of KSC.
Northrop Grumman has facilities within the district at Northeast Florida Regional Airport near St. Augustine where they produce E-2 Hawkeyes and work on subsystems for the B-2 and other aircraft.

Claudia Tenney, Republican, New York 22nd Congressional District.
Sits on Subcommittees within the Small Business and the Foreign Affairs Committees.
The 22nd Congressional District covers parts of up-state NY east of Syracuse.
Fort Drum, home of United States Army Materiel Command, is within this District.

Alexander Mooney, Republican, West Virginia 2nd Congressional District.
Sits on the Financial Services Committee.
The 2nd Congressional District covers a narrow weaving strip of land from Charleston, WV, to nearly Washington, DC.
I can't think of any major military or defense industry installations in this area. (Maybe they just need a money guy on board?)

Carlos Gimenez, Republican, Florida 26th Congressional District.
Sits on several Subcommittees under the purvey of the Homeland Security, the Transportation and Infrastructure, and the Science, Space, and Technology Committees.
The 26th Congressional District covers all of South Florida.
Pratt & Whitney has a plant west of Jupiter where they design, test, and build rocket, hypersonic, and jet engines for both consumer and military applications.

Nicole Malliotakis, Republican, New York 11th Congressional District.
Sits on Subcommittees within the Transportation and Infrastructure and Foreign Affairs Committees.
The 11th Congressional District covers Staten Island and a very small portion of Brooklyn.
The headquarters of USCG Sector New York and Fort Hamilton are within this District.

Brian Mast, Republican, Florida 18th Congressional District.
Sits on Subcommittees within the Transportation and Infrastructure and Foreign Affairs Committees.
The 18th Congressional District covers Florida's Treasure Coast.
My own backyard, we have virtually nothing of military or defense industry here aside from some smaller businesses. He's just a vocal Republican, so it's probably that.

Bill Posey, Republican, Florida 8th Congressional District.
Sits on Subcommittees within the Financial Services and the Science, Space, and Technology Committees.
The 8th Congressional District covers the Space Coast between the 6th and 18th Districts.
Patrick SFP and the KSC are within this District.

Eric Crawford, Republican, Arkansas 1st Congressional District.
Sits on Subcommittees within the Agriculture and the Transportation and Infrastructure Committees.
The 1st Congressional District covers the eastern third of the state.
Famously stepped down from his role on the House Intelligence Committee during the first impeachment of President Trump.
I know Arkansas has a surprising amount of aerospace industry, including all the heavy hitters (Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Aerojet Rocketdyne, etc...) but I have no idea if any are within this District. Considering the size of it, it wouldn't shock me.

Dusty Johnson, Republican, South Dakota At Large.
Sits on Subcommittees within the Education and Labor and the Agriculture Committees.
The District covers the entire state.
Ellsworth AFB, home of the Global Strike Command, is based here. The first operational B-21 units and training units will be based here. (This could be a hit?)
I giggled at his name.

Steven Palazzo, Republican, Mississippi 4th District.
Sits on the Appropriations Committee.
The District covers the southern chunk of the state.
The Committee he sits on is in charge of how government funds are allocated. Another numbers guy, but arguably a more important one. Keesler AFB is in this District.

Ann Wagner, Republican, Missouri 2nd District.
Sits on the Financial Services and the Foreign Affairs Committees.
The District covers the south and western suburbs of St. Louis.
This District has major Boeing operations where the F-15s are produced.

Jody Hice, Republican, Georgia's 10th District.
Sits on Subcommittees within the Natural Resources and the Oversight and Government Reform Committees.
The District covers mostly rural areas northeast of Atlanta.
Can't think of anything military or defense industry in this one. Looks like to have a government oversight person on it.

So there's some information on the different sponsors. Not sure how to connect the dots. Some obvious industry lobbying going on, others seem based off geography, others simply because of their positions on Committees.

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: Vasa Croe

.....

I swear, this screams like a big, FAT hint at that space weapon reveal we've been promised this year. And considering the name, it makes sense. Starfall being a term for falling stars, could be the oggity boogity space rock weapon that's been theorized.....

Having worked on "space rock" defense for 25 years at NASA, the first thing to say is that there is no oogity boogity space rock weapon under development because it doesn't make any sense, militarily. It is theoretically possible to steer a space rock onto a collision course with some particular location on Earth's surface, but it would make a really lousy weapon.

Stopping right here, because you're missing the lingo nod, not the technical aspects. "Space Rock Blaster", among other nicknames, refers to the suspected ANTI-SATELLITE weapon this could be.

Not bringing rocks down to Earth as weapons, lmfao.

a reply to: Vasa Croe
What about the last star fall, the aeon of pisces when the Sun Gods new name became Jesus of Sacrifice. So come Aquries the Air sign takes over What is COVID again? That's right sacrifice to the new God, Lucifer the crown of the Sun, the light bringer. The Lord of the air haha, honestly you can only laugh
This sht is real, actual other level real

It's no Joke a new Aeon is upon us.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

IIRC I believe it was a video attached to another post in here where someone mentioned Operation Starfall...I just moved past because at the time I thought it was a nothing burger. I'm still digging.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

taskandpurpose.com...#:~:text=The%20Air%20Force%20put%20the,a%20100%2Dton%20capacity.%E2%80%9D

Whether they’re in Star Wars, Halo or Warhammer 40,000, I’m a big fan of sci-fi planetary invasions, so my ears perked up when I heard the U.S. Air Force wants to invest $48 million into researching reusable rocket technology that could help shoot cargo or special operations troops into space and then bring them down to an austere base or combat zone anywhere on the planet in under an hour.


Maybe this?

At least, that could be a capability in the next few decades if all goes well, and that’s a lot of ifs. The Air Force put the $48 million request in its fiscal year 2022 budget proposal. In the request, titled “Rocket cargo,” the Air Force says it seeks to “leverage a commercial rocket to deliver [Air Force] cargo anywhere on the Earth in less than one hour, with a 100-ton capacity.”

I know a guy in project starfall. He has a split tongue and spider and snake and Metallica dna. That’s all I’m allowed to say about it.