Refusing Care to Unvaccinated - It’s Real

The mother of a friend of mine is unvaccinated and contracted COVID. She was take to the ER last week where she spent about 12 hours before they said they have done all they can for her and sent her home. My friend wasn’t able to go into the ER with his mother but apparently they were friendly but wanted her our relatively quickly and weren’t all that thrilled about her unvaccinated status.

She was sick, tired and generally unwell but stable when she left.

About 4:30 the next morning, she woke up and made some noises and my friend when to check on her (she stayed with him and his wife). The mother is in her 60s. She looked white/pale/purple and was not able to articulate thoughts when he checked on her. Checked her blood 02 and it was 88%.

He calls 911 and an EMT shows up, puts her on oxygen and they get her O2 up into the 90s.

Ambulance shows up and one of the paramedics says “ok, so what do you want us to do”. My friend says “take her to the hospital”. Ambulance personnel says “why? She was already there? She’s not vaccinated and has COVID - they can’t do anything for her anyway”… they flat out did not want to take her to the hospital.

This led to snarky remarks about not being vaccinated, how they made poor decisions to not get vaccinated (“this is what happens” kind of discussion) and having no interest in taking her to the hospital. The EMT who was still there and put her on oxygen told the folks in the ambulance “you need to take her to the hospital, we don’t have oxygen here and we need to get her 02 up now - take her to the hospital now.”

After arguing, the ambulance personnel took her to the hospital - reluctantly.

True story.

If you’re not vaxed and get sick with COVID you could be in for a less than stellar medical experience at a time you need the help the most, apparently.

a reply to: VulcanWerks

If she was not given monoclonal antibodies, they did not do everything they could do for her.


www.houstonmethodist.org...

Who is eligible to receive monoclonal antibody therapy?
Monoclonal antibody treatment is available to individuals who:

Are high risk** for developing severe COVID-19 and
Have a positive COVID-19 test and have not yet been admitted to the hospital and
Are 12 years of age or older (and at least 88 pounds)

Post-exposure preventive monoclonal antibodies are available to those who have been exposed (consistent with the CDC's close contact criteria)* and who are:

High risk** for developing severe COVID-19 and
12 years of age or older (and at least 88 pounds) and
Not fully vaccinated or vaccinated but immunocompromised

*In some cases, direct exposure isn't a criterion. If you meet the criteria above and are at high risk of exposure to an individual infected because of an occurrence of infection in other individuals in the same institutional setting (for example, nursing homes or prisons), you are eligible for post-exposure preventive monoclonal antibodies.

It is important to understand that post-exposure preventive monoclonal antibodies are not a replacement for vaccination. We highly encourage everyone to get a COVID-19 vaccine.

**High risk includes any of the following:

65 years of age or older
Overweight (body mass index over 25)
Pregnancy
Chronic kidney disease
Diabetes (Type 1 and Type 2)
Weakened immune system
Currently receiving immunosuppressive treatment
Cardiovascular disease/hypertension
Chronic lung disease
Sickle cell disease
Neurodevelopmental disorders
Medical-related technological dependence

At this point with the way this game is being played it appears to some that the vaccinated are flat out doomed and there isn’t really a “down the road” scenario it’s more of an “around the bend” deal… they don’t want to treat the unvaccinated with COVID because the weak ones will perish and the strong ones will be all that remain in five years…

Take it for what it’s worth… nobody’s “facts” are this point are worth didly squat…

I'm waiting for the day when our medical insurance is cancelled because we've not taken the death jab.

a reply to: VulcanWerks

What were her reasons for not getting vaccinated?

If medical exemption they should have treated her.

If it was because she doesn't trust the medical professionals then she wouldn't have trusted them then either. So she surely would have asked for no treatment.

Either way I hope she gets better.

Make sure she asks for tests on her main organs at a later date as covid is known to cause permanent long term damage.

a reply to: VulcanWerks

Maybe the "Do No Harm" oath has been thrown out the window?

originally posted by: SwissMarked
At this point with the way this game is being played it appears to some that the vaccinated are flat out doomed and there isn’t really a “down the road” scenario it’s more of an “around the bend” deal… they don’t want to treat the unvaccinated with COVID because the weak ones will perish and the strong ones will be all that remain in five years…

Take it for what it’s worth… nobody’s “facts” are this point are worth didly squat…

Not in America. The wealthy and weak will outlast the strong and poor.

a reply to: VulcanWerks

This is not about vax or not vax, if somebody made comments like that to me I would have their head on a platter, with a good lawyer.

Anyway, the protocol now is been changed in the emergency rooms, is not longer the rush to intubate and admit, them, now is to give medications if the Oxygen levels are good while in the ER, stabilized them and send them home.

Only if the person while in the ER is in bad shape then they will be admitted, this due to the fact that a lot of people are filling up the ERs this days.

Sorry for this experience you have.

BTW, I posted before my experience in the ER, all I seen were vaxed or sick people claiming been vaxed sick with covid and in bad shape in 3 hours I spend in our main hospital on a Friday.

a reply to: VulcanWerks

I dare that same EMT worker to tell some gang member thug who's been shot that he can't take him to the hospital because he was shot due to his own ignorant actions.

Seriously, someone needs to file a complaint and turn in that EMT. He is not a doctor and it is not his call. The woman clearly needed oxygen, regardless of the long-term outcome.

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
a reply to: VulcanWerks

What were her reasons for not getting vaccinated?

If medical exemption they should have treated her.

If it was because she doesn't trust the medical professionals then she wouldn't have trusted them then either. So she surely would have asked for no treatment.

Either way I hope she gets better.

Make sure she asks for tests on her main organs at a later date as covid is known to cause permanent long term damage.

My understanding is that she had concerns about blood clots as she has had some clotting issues in the past.

That said, and from what I gather, I suspect the larger rational for not getting vaccinated is on religious grounds - she’s deeply religious by my understanding.

The clotting thing is a real concern and, while I’m not terribly religious in a formalized way, I also won’t pass judgement on those who are and refuse the vax.

I personally and vaccinated but that’s my choice - just like not getting vaccinated is a choice.

That choice - either way - could have implications on ones health in a number of ways depending on the person but in no way should any person receive substandard or elevated care on the basis of vaccination status - period.

a reply to: infolurker

For what I know as my daughter told me, she is an ER nurse, is that the monoclonal antibodies, is in big shortage at least in her area, because of this, treatment is only for those that are early in the infection, once it goes to the lungs this treatment do not do much.

The shortage is because this treatment was not made a priority since the beginning due to the push for vax, but now that vaxed is been getting sick at least in her state the government is now making it a priority, specially since the elderly all vaxed are getting sick in nursing homes.

She lost two friend to covid in one week last week, one was a EMT, the other a fellow nurse, they got sick and waited too long to go seek care even when they are very well aware of symptoms.

Once is in the lungs is hard to treat the infection.

a reply to: VulcanWerks

I see, then she is right to be concern about getting the shot as one of the issues with the jabs is clotting related, she will be a high risk.

a reply to: marg6043

Yeah,

My boss (in his early 50's) got Covid a few months back. He was in pretty bad shape and ready to be admitted because his oxy levels were falling so quickly.

He got the monoclonal antibodies and within 24 hours was improving rapidly. The stuff works and should be given out as it definitely saves lives.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: SwissMarked
At this point with the way this game is being played it appears to some that the vaccinated are flat out doomed and there isn’t really a “down the road” scenario it’s more of an “around the bend” deal… they don’t want to treat the unvaccinated with COVID because the weak ones will perish and the strong ones will be all that remain in five years…

Take it for what it’s worth… nobody’s “facts” are this point are worth didly squat…

Not in America. The wealthy and weak will outlast the strong and poor.

This is unfortunately true about many things in American society.

a reply to: carewemust

That went out the window years ago when the pharmaceutical companies made doctors their “pushers”… the psychology field is the absolute worst but damned if the rest aren’t doing their best to catch up…

a reply to: infolurker

Yes is a life saving for many, but for others is too late when they get it. I am glad your boss is doing good, Florida Governor DeSantis is pushing to make the monoclonal antibodies a priority treatment in the State, something that the media and the liberals were chastising him for it, because he was been attacked about the mask mandate and no pushing vaxs enough.

Now the darn penguin n in the CDC fascist Saucy faucy is agreeing with him because the high numbers of vaxed elderly in nursing homes getting sick with covid.

a reply to: VulcanWerks

I agree, they all get preferred treatment of the best available for the covid and jabs are not even in the picture for them.

Money can buy many things,

Practices like this will likely lead to only the vaccinated being hospitalized but mainly the unvxxed will die self fulfilling proficiency if you will

Tptb will have there war the sheep are going to hand it to them on a silver platter

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: VulcanWerks

Maybe the "Do No Harm" oath has been thrown out the window?

Slow down there High-Speed. We're not yet done throwing the Constitution out the window...

Thats pretty terrible. I'm sorry to hear that. What state do you live? a reply to: VulcanWerks