FDA finally admits Ivermectin works against COVID

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: YouSir

Ummm...Sooooo...humans...aren't animals...lactating mammals even...?

News to me...

Hackatcha...

YouSir

Sure, give you dog a big chocoholic bar...

That logic hasn't stopped them from Covid-vaxing tigers, bears, and gorillas...surely well vetted (pun intended)

a reply to: 1947boomer

Once again please actually read the entire article.

originally posted by: MPoling
Once again please actually read the entire article.

The entire article is about it working "in vitro".

The FDA didn't admit to it working in people.

That would take studies that nobody is going to undertake because, as someone pointed out earlier, there is no money in it.

a reply to: daskakik

I understand that but the point it the treatment actually works. This should be headline news and studied a lot more. The FDA is showing evidence of the in vitro working. Kind of line Novavax working but the FDA wont even look at it.

a reply to: MPoling
No, the treatment works in vitro. It isn't big news and the FDA doesn't decide who studies what.

Also, the Novavax delay is not on the FDA.
Novavax Again Delays EUA Filing with FDA

After pushing back the EUA filing earlier this year initially – from May to July – CEO Stanley Erck said the Gaithersburg-Maryland-based company will now delay applying to the FDA, as well as some other regulatory authorities, until the upcoming fourth quarter.

a reply to: MPoling

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Here is a link to 270 different articles on using ivermectin to treat covid19.
Make your own judgment I will not argue with any one that don't do there own research,since I provided the info for you.

a reply to: butcherguy

Lol, it killed most of them.

Animals dying is not funny btw.

originally posted by: bigsnowman
From the FDA link

Q: Should I take ivermectin to prevent or treat COVID-19?

A: No. While there are approved uses for ivermectin in people and animals, it is not approved for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19. You should not take any medicine to treat or prevent COVID-19 unless it has been prescribed to you by your health care provider and acquired from a legitimate source.

A recently released research articleExternal Link Disclaimer described the effect of ivermectin on SARS-CoV-2 in a laboratory setting. These types of laboratory studies are commonly used at an early stage of drug development. Additional testing is needed to determine whether ivermectin might be appropriate to prevent or treat coronavirus or COVID-19.

In what universe did the FDA 'admit' to anything in regards to ivermectin?

They have done that testing in other countries and verified that Ivermectin does work against the virus if it is given properly. India was one of those countries. I cannot remember what other country did the research and testing though, one that does not have their medical heirchy under the thumb of the Pharma companies I suppose.

Word on the tweets is that the FDA has authorized the mail to intercept and destroy shipments of ivermectin coming into the US.
Wish I had a better source, this one just happened to pass me by today so I grabbed the link.
media.patriots.win...

The local shops that normally sell it (about $6 a tube, sized for a horse) are all out.
When I checked last week, amazon and ebay sellers were selling it for as much as $50 a tube... but if the government is willing to go through your mail to prevent you from having it, I wouldn't hold out much hope for being able to find it for a long while.

I had picked up three tubes last week as a just-in-case exactly this sort of thing starts to happen... but I wouldn't hold out much hope of seeing it in stock anywhere any time soon.

Here's hoping I don't need it.

originally posted by: MPoling
a reply to: daskakik

I understand that but the point it the treatment actually works. This should be headline news and studied a lot more. The FDA is showing evidence of the in vitro working. Kind of line Novavax working but the FDA wont even look at it.

I did read the entire article and it is interesting because it proposes an identifiable and testable hypothesis. However, the experiment was conducted on an African Green Monkey cell line, and I saw no discussion of how one would expect this to function in a human cell line, taking into account differences between the nuclear membrane of a monkey and a human.

There is also the fact that numerous studies in the last few months have shown no effect of Ivermectin greater than a placebo when actually tested in humans. There is clearly a disconnect between the hypothesis in this article and real life experience. If Ivermectin really stopped 99.98% of viral RNA from getting into the human cell nucleus, there would be no question about its effectiveness. But we’re not seeing that. That inconsistency would have to be resolved before people get excited about this.

My 20 year old got the "blistered throat" / non-CV illness as well. He is a daily working background actor and has to wear a mask 10+ hours a day (every minute not shooting and they work 12 hour days). Urgent care doc said he is seeing a lot of this illness, he believes, due to rebreathing of usually-harmless bacteria that is usually expelled when we breathe.

On your other point - I also agree with you that some people are likely naturally immune... or using medications/herbs/vitamins etc that might prevent it and we don't even know. There have been some small-group studies on things like nicotine, Vitamin D, and some other various elements - and whether those things prevent the spike protein from binding.


a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: nicevillegrl
My 20 year old got the "blistered throat" / non-CV illness as well. He is a daily working background actor and has to wear a mask 10+ hours a day (every minute not shooting and they work 12 hour days). Urgent care doc said he is seeing a lot of this illness, he believes, due to rebreathing of usually-harmless bacteria that is usually expelled when we breathe.

Yeah masks are essentially a germ auger pressed against your face all day. Effective in surgery rooms where aseptic technique is used, but in regular every-day situations it is more detrimental than beneficial for physiological function.

Maybe my view of Ivermectin is bias because my family has personally seen multiple people told they were dying because of COVID and then better within 24-48 hours after taking Ivermectin. When you see this first hand it can change your perception of things.

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: MPoling
a reply to: daskakik

I understand that but the point it the treatment actually works. This should be headline news and studied a lot more. The FDA is showing evidence of the in vitro working. Kind of line Novavax working but the FDA wont even look at it.

I did read the entire article and it is interesting because it proposes an identifiable and testable hypothesis. However, the experiment was conducted on an African Green Monkey cell line, and I saw no discussion of how one would expect this to function in a human cell line, taking into account differences between the nuclear membrane of a monkey and a human.

There is also the fact that numerous studies in the last few months have shown no effect of Ivermectin greater than a placebo when actually tested in humans. There is clearly a disconnect between the hypothesis in this article and real life experience. If Ivermectin really stopped 99.98% of viral RNA from getting into the human cell nucleus, there would be no question about its effectiveness. But we’re not seeing that. That inconsistency would have to be resolved before people get excited about this.

got some links for those studies? I don't doubt them, but we don't just take people's word here.

and reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

he re is a study from Jan. 2021

The O- blood group had a 2.1% chance of getting SARS-CoV-2 infection (95% CI, 1.8-2.3%), the lowest unadjusted probability of all blood groups. The aRR for SARS-CoV-2 infection in the O blood group was 0.88 (95% CI, 0.84-0.92) vs all other blood groups, and the ARD was -3.9 per 1,000 (95% CI, -5.4 to -2.5). Comparatively, the highest unadjusted probability of SARS-CoV-2 infection was in the B+ blood group (4.2%; 95% CI, 4.0-4.5%). Results also indicated the aRR for SARS-CoV-2 infection was higher in patients with AB blood type compared with type A.

originally posted by: 1947boomer
There is also the fact that numerous studies in the last few months have shown no effect of Ivermectin greater than a placebo when actually tested in humans.

Yeah, and there is also this little uncomfortable reality that the FLCC protocol which uses Ivermectin as one of its primary meds it has been proven extremely effective even when used in later stages of the disease (when someone is going downhill fast) - in living, breathing people.

So F your ridiculous gaslighting, arguments like yours are responsible for the deaths of thousands of people.

MURDER MUCH?

a reply to: nicevillegrl

A friend of mine, also wearing a mask for his job last year, was told the very same thing by his doctor. The mask can cause disease. I've read reports of oral Candida infections in heavy mask wearers.

originally posted by: loveguy
and reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

he re is a study from Jan. 2021

The O- blood group had a 2.1% chance of getting SARS-CoV-2 infection (95% CI, 1.8-2.3%), the lowest unadjusted probability of all blood groups. The aRR for SARS-CoV-2 infection in the O blood group was 0.88 (95% CI, 0.84-0.92) vs all other blood groups, and the ARD was -3.9 per 1,000 (95% CI, -5.4 to -2.5). Comparatively, the highest unadjusted probability of SARS-CoV-2 infection was in the B+ blood group (4.2%; 95% CI, 4.0-4.5%). Results also indicated the aRR for SARS-CoV-2 infection was higher in patients with AB blood type compared with type A.

Fantastic information, thank you

originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: bigsnowman

On that same basis we should all hold off taking the vaccine too! Thanks for clearing that up, phew!

It’s pleasant to read some of the more stubborn jackasses are pulling their heads out of the sand and realising the truth!