Extremely upset and exceptionally angry

originally posted by: ussmidway
Stop believing everything you read on conspiracy websites and just get yourself and your family vaccinated. It's just common sense and the right thing to do.

Is it really?

All right, let's assume everything we read on conspiracy websites is total BS. Is it still just common sense to get yourself and your family vaccinated?

I don't know about you, but most human beings have a tendency to not trust those who have consistently lied to them. So let's take a look at those telling us we should take these drugs.

Governments. Governments are notorious for lying to their people. Off the top of my head, I can't think of one government in existence today that considers the people of a country more important than the government of that country. They will lie to the people when it comes to war. They will lie to people when it comes to taking away their rights. I could go on with a long list of examples, but the bottom line is that governments care more about governments than people. I can't think of any government that wouldn't gladly sacrifice 3/4 of the people to maintain power.

The Media. I don't know of any major "news" media that isn't a propaganda wing of the government. They all promote two things, hate and fear. They will tell you that you should hate the people the government wants to wage war on, even though you don't know a damn thing about them. They will tell you that you should fear your neighbor, even though you probably know less about your neighbor as someone on the other side of the globe. Just look at the headlines. And even though they have been caught many times outright lying to people, they just keep going. Like you should still believe them.

The drug makers. The corporations that make money selling you the drugs. Have you seen a list of drugs that have been taken off the market because of side effects that include death? If you haven't, trust me, the list is looooong. Or don't trust me, look it up for yourself. Or just look at some TV commercials. "If you've taken the drug X, then you may be entitled to financial compensation." And no matter how much they pay in settlements, the drug makers still make a profit. Of course, they won't have to pay any settlements for Covid vaccines, they've already ironed out that little wrinkle with governments.

So, given that all the people pushing these drugs are known, professional, liars who accept no responsibility or liability for the drugs that they are promoting, is it still "just common sense" to believe that they are telling the truth this time? Especially when they are promoting these drugs through hate and fear? At what point do you believe The Boy Who Cried Wolf?

Can you just accept that some people may not have the same faith in these known, professional liars as you do? Can you allow the people who do not have the same faith as you do to make their own choice?

a reply to: DaRAGE

This dumpster fire of vax mandates and passports will create a backlash for sure. They are rushing this without any logic.

a reply to: DaRAGE

What they haven't realised yet is they're building a world that likely won't really be worth living in, so I suspect the failure probability is quite high.

But the real problem now is that there is no going back, because there is no trust anymore. Any trust that was there has been broken, well, actually smashed to be honest, because of the censorship in the media and by politicians. They have and continue to lie.

When you have people advocating mandatory enrollment into an experimental medical procedure, that does kill and maim people, when avenues that have proved to be successful, such as Ivermectin, are censored so heavily as to not exist, how can there be a return to trust with people like that, not doable, they have relinquished their humanity.

a reply to: DaRAGE

I wont work for a company that does drug testing, and not this.

if I'm not affected, I can do my job. Screw the dicks.

Coming your way... take it or you won't be able to buy food.

originally posted by: DaRAGE
If i were an employer, i wouldn’t be able to ask a potential employee if they were on the pill, or how long it had been since they have had a prostate exam. It is not anybody’s business. It is personal information. “Do you have the herpes virus?”. Do you intend on getting pregnant? When was the last time you had your tetinus shot? Have you experienced Crabs in the last 6 months?” Do you intend on getting pregnant in the next 6 months? Is it true that Jews have rat like characteristics? Are you affiliated with the German nationalist socialist party or are you a communist dog?”.

Can the rest of your employees - whom you have a legal and moral duty to protect - contract any of the things you listed in the normal course of their work?

That's the difference.

An emplpyer would be able to ask if you had any disabilities or illness that might prevent you carrying out your duties safely and/or endanger yourself or others. And that is a better analogy.

Here's the deal...

I'm pretty sure 99.9% of you on this forum have gotten your Polio, and MMR vaccines.

They are required by the government in order to attend school.

We all have gotten them.

So the whole "The government is taking over our bodies" shtick is BS because if you haven't been saying that since you got your first boosters (or say it in defense of keeping abortion legal). Then you're really just politicizing something that shouldn't be politicized.

It's just one more shot to add to the others we are already mandated to take.

I know 2 people personally that have been let go from their employers for not being vaxxed. They understood and they aren't making a fuss about it.

No one cares about "taking over your body." The only thing that ppl care about is reducing chances of you becoming a super super spreader.

a reply to: Lucidparadox

Here's the deal. Your post is the most dishonest bs I've ever read
At no time in history has this amount of propaganda been pushed onto the world at once,
blatant filtering of any doctor's concerns, outright threats to remove med licensing, nor have real vaccines been involved with "we need to depopulate earth" Bill gates involved.
The guy with a proven track record of bad vaccine programs and the id2020 style ccp social credit style program.
Not to mention the FACT Gates and a bunch of high powered people, Fauci connected as well, are central to all this nonsense.
The guys that were caught up in pedo island.

Forced vaccines justify lethal force self defense.
You can watch the more balsy countries motive with the passport trash going on.
Take your weak brow beating bs and stick it up your you know what.

a reply to: Mandroid7


Well, the PR firm in London is the same one they used for promoting the Gulf War what do you expect?

a reply to: anonentity

The Epstein vaccine is about as organic as the corporate funded blm squad.

a reply to: Lucidparadox

I know 2 people personally that have been let go from their employers for not being vaxxed. They understood and they aren't making a fuss about it.

And honestly this is starting to smell like the real angle here with the job situation.
A bunch of psychotic leftist putting out psychotic information that any sane conservative person would question. Complete with easily observed filtering of info going on.
Then playing the no jab no job, it's for our safety card.
Just like you just did ironically

a reply to: ussmidway

It could instantly give you a12" dong, a stack of viagra, and a supermodel wife and I still would refuse at this point out of shear principle.

Weak ass manipulation doesn't work on me, bring on the force already and lets get this thing going.

Throwing in my 2 cents: Yes, mandatory EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS are atrocious and CRIMINAL. It's not a vaccine.

a reply to: Lucidparadox

What a crock of BS.

This is NOT comparable to shots that have been tried and tested for YE:ARS.

mRNA is a "novel" type of vaccine.

Why do you think it's "novel"?

How many previous vaccinations have you had that were under the Emergency Act?

ONE. That's how many.

Thanks, but I'll think for myself.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I'm pissed, but I called this out in March of LAST year and everyone thought I was a mindless killer.

Ah, the good ol' days....

a reply to: DaRAGE

I agree with the vast majority of what you said; forced vaccination is simply wrong and being forced to reveal private and confidential medical information is very, very wrong.

But I would like to say that I recently had an interview and medical for a new job - for several reasons I have chosen to go back into full-time work. This was the first medical I have had for a job for a lot of years.
It entailed the usual list of things; eye test, drug and alcohol test, hearing test, physical tests blah blah blah.
But the list of medical questions I was asked ran to four pages; I nearly told the quack to go # himself. I think he could sense I was getting pissed off as he said he's just tick the No box for all of them.

The point is the questions relating to the majority of medical conditions had absolutely no relevance whatsoever to the position I was being offered.
It was an invasion of privacy.

Interestingly I wasn't asked if I'd been vaccinated or not.

I've been led to believe that its pretty much the norm now when starting new jobs.

As an aside; you've still got the coolest avatar on the site.

a reply to: Lucidparadox

Polio vaccine has been around since 1955 , i got it 33 years later.

Thats a lot of time to research the polio vaccine and improve it.

I have doubts about something that has been spit out in a year , under heavy international pressure to produce a vaccine.

But i get it people are afraid i might kill them with corona , so they want to decide for me what is good for me.

only because i could be a danger to you vaccinated people you "care" about me.

A situational kind of care depending on how safe people feel , kinda selfish.

I wanna bet some people who got vaccinated still drink and drive , how is that not double standards ?

originally posted by: Lucidparadox
Here's the deal...

The only thing that ppl care about is reducing chances of you becoming a super super spreader.

From what I've researched and AFAIK the vaxxed ARE the super super spreaders whom should now be isolated from healthy non-vaxxed people as lepers were and still are separated.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: DaRAGE

I'm a Russian infiltrator according to some here.

Or I dunno.

Just 'cause.

Doing your time travel in public again?

You're going to break the Fn barrier, don't say I didn't warn you.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You can beat a dead horse to water, but you can't quench the governments thirst until all cows come home to roost.