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"Afghanistan leaders gave up and fled the country, the afghan military collapsed, sometimes without trying to fight...
American troops can not and should not be fighting in a war and dying in a war that afghan forces are not willing to fight for themselves."
"As we carry out this departure, we have made it clear to the Taliban:
If they attack our personnel or interfere with our operation,
the US presence will be swift and the response will we swift and Forceful.
We will defend our people with devastating force if necessary."
originally posted by: ADAMandEVIL
Within 1 week the Taliban's 80,000-200,000 seized control of a country of 38 million
Kabul, the final city captured, has a population of 4.5 million and was lost practically overnight.
1 trillion dollars of taxpayer money, 20 years, thousands of lives.
300,000 personnel trained and well-equipped...
Biden blames Afghanistan. Is he right?
"Afghanistan leaders gave up and fled the country, the afghan military collapsed, sometimes without trying to fight...
American troops can not and should not be fighting in a war and dying in a war that afghan forces are not willing to fight for themselves."
The conspiracy theorist in me says this is a setup. Let the little fish go now, catch the big one later.
1- Afghanistan is a country of 38 million. That's the same as Canada.
Doubtless, the Taliban's armed numbers will now simply explode.
Historically, the US doesn't just NOT involve itself with the rise of radical Islamic governments.
2- There are surrendered forces 200,000 - 300, 000 strong across Afghanistan.
They will either defect or become...examples.
All their equipment, weapons, technology, vehicles and forces are now Taliban.
3- Public support for war is at an almost all-time low. Like before 9/11...
However, if there were suddenly a new terrorist threat such as rogue nation
Then suddenly the coffers of the Pentagon and DARPA would grow fat again
4- Following is usually some coincidence that convinces the public to jump on board
A humanitarian crisis in which UN and the public forced the hand of government
Or afalse flagterror event, an attack that cannot go unpunished...
Such as Biden has just warned against:
"As we carry out this departure, we have made it clear to the Taliban:
If they attack our personnel or interfere with our operation,
the US presence will be swift and the response will we swift and Forceful.
We will defend our people with devastating force if necessary."
Do you really think Biden is making this call in the interest of the American people?
Is this the right decision, to abandon Afghanistan? Or is it a brilliant tactic for UN rollout?
Remember, it isn't war if it's a military police presence. Then it's just global law enforcement.
Create a humanitarian crisis and force international involvement?
Or back off and let your enemy get scary enough that the public begs and pays you to go back?
What better time to start a new war with millions of directionless, broke and unemployed...
Anyway that's enough conspiratorial brainstorming for now!
This is all conjecture of course.
I'm sure those in power have nothing but our best intentions in mind
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*BTW This is not necessarily reflective of my opinion. I'm a moron, not a defense strategist.*
originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: Boadicea
I watched an Al-Jazeera stream earlier and the Taliban leaders were saying that it was a peaceful transition of power as arranged, there was no bloodshed. Paraphrasing of course.
Something stinks of BS in this whole narrative.
originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: Boadicea
I watched an Al-Jazeera stream earlier and the Taliban leaders were saying that it was a peaceful transition of power as arranged, there was no bloodshed. Paraphrasing of course.
Something stinks of BS in this whole narrative.
originally posted by: watchitburn
One thing lurking in the back of my mind.
The Taliban/AQ/IS now have lots of HMMWV's, MRAPS (for as long as the can keep them running) F16s, Blackhawks, Scan-Eagle drones and who knows what else.
Seams like it would probably be enough to mount a raid into Pakistan to snag some nukes.
Just a thought to chew on.
originally posted by: Boadicea
originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: Boadicea
I watched an Al-Jazeera stream earlier and the Taliban leaders were saying that it was a peaceful transition of power as arranged, there was no bloodshed. Paraphrasing of course.
Something stinks of BS in this whole narrative.
Wow. That's bold... whether they are lying or telling the truth or some combination thereof.
But you're right -- it does stink. To high Heaven.