The weapons of 9/11

a reply to: neutronflux

You

The molten was evidence not danger to anyone.

Think about how ignorant that statement is.

You cannot produce any video or photographic pictures of your delusion.

But in the context of you thinking a pile of molten metal is safe for anyone to work in when it would cause anything flammable to burn come in contact with, plastic, computer boards, batteries in electronics like cordless phones and emergency lighting, furniture. And the toxic fumes and gas it would produce.

And the heat and burn dangers to personal.

Molten metal causes violent physical steam reactions that throws up liquid metal in a ball of steam if it contacts water or moisture.

And how it would destroy other evidence.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: GLRockwell

Address what is actually posted. And educate yourself, and use something than truth movement innuendo and falsehoods.

I HAVE ADDRESSED EVERYTHING YOU HAVE POSTED.I HAVE GIVEN MORE FEEDBAK, GIVEN MORE INTEL ON THE MATTER. YOU HAVENT. ALL YOUVE DONE IS ASSUME THIS OR THAT.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: GLRockwell

You

Here you go assuming again. Says who you? Youre not an expert.

We do know the jet impacts took out columns. And dislocated/dislodge floors. It would have been the same for any explosives attached.

We do know the jets took out elevator service. We know the jets took out / disrupted building electrical services. And disrupted other buildings services.

The jet impacts would have done the same to any controlled demolition system in the area of the jet impacts. Like associated wiring. And for the twin towers, the collapse initiations are on video. And started in the areas of the jet impacts.


Fire would have destroyed any computer / remote detonators. And the heat from the fires.

Only someone with no critical thinking skills would believe a demolition system would maintain its integrity when jet impacts destroyed columns, dislodge floor pans, the jet debris flew through the towers like buckshot. Destroying electrical and elevator services. Followed by fire and heat. And somehow the deranged CD system would have maintained its integrity to initiate the collapse of each tower at the point of impact.

SINCE YOURE NITPICKING MY FACTS, YOUVE AUTOMATICALLY LOST THIS DEBATE.

a reply to: GLRockwell

You

THERE WAS NO CONTAINMENT ,NONE. FROM DAY TWO THE GROUND ZERO WAS CLOSED OFF AND ALL VITAL EVIDENCE WAS RECYCLED AWAY

A statement made by you out of ignorance, and believing truth movement lies.

Anguished search a grim task at landfill

www.baltimoresun.com...

"It's a corporal work of mercy," said New York Police Department Deputy Inspector James Luongo, who heads the sifting and retrieval effort. "We're helping to bury the dead."

The site has a second mission, although the importance of that has diminished over time: The search continues for a chunk of incriminating evidence and for the black boxes from the jetliners that hit the twin towers, killing nearly 3,000 people.

Already 900,000 tons have been processed in this arduous effort, including heavy steel that has been recycled. At the center of the operation are several work areas, each equipped with three large conveyor belts: one for fine soil and particles, one for solid pieces as tiny as one-quarter inch, and one for larger chunks.

Forensic teams look back at 20-year mission to identify World Trade Center remains

abcnews.go.com...

Over 22,000 human bone and tissue samples have been recovered from Ground Zero over the years, according to OCME. And by the end of May 2002, 736 victims were identified without DNA matching, according to a report issued by Butler a decade ago.

A landfill in their backyard
By Isabelle Chapman, CNN
Published Friday, Sept. 11, 2020 at 1:30 a.m. ET

After 9/11, Staten Island’s defunct Fresh Kills landfill became a forensic site for Ground Zero debris. Nineteen years later, the city is transforming it into a park. Residents worry it’s making them sick, but the city has found “little evidence” of a link.

www.cnn.com...


Workers spent more than 10 months sifting through rubble looking for evidence from the attacks including plane parts, office ID badges, jewelry and human remains.

“It was one of the most upsetting things I’ve ever seen,” lawyer Michael Barasch, who has handled personal injury cases for 9/11 first responders and visited the site in the months following the attacks, said. “You knew that people’s bodies and bones and tissue were inside this mass (of debris).”

Pictures of WTC steel I have picked up here and there..

a reply to: GLRockwell

You

I HAVE ADDRESSED EVERYTHING YOU HAVE POSTED.I HAVE GIVEN MORE FEEDBAK, GIVEN MORE INTEL ON THE MATTER. YOU HAVENT. ALL YOUVE DONE IS ASSUME THIS OR THAT.

You complain about what I post with no evidence or logical argument to contradict what I post.

a reply to: GLRockwell

You

SINCE YOURE NITPICKING MY FACTS, YOUVE AUTOMATICALLY LOST THIS DEBATE.

Is that what you say / post when you contradict yourself? And you are not able to provide any credible evidence?

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: GLRockwell

You

Here you go assuming again. Says who you? Youre not an expert.

We do know the jet impacts took out columns. NO YOU DONT

And dislocated/dislodge floors. NO YOU DONT

It would have been the same for any explosives attached. NO ITS NOT. ONE IS CONTROLLED AND THE OTHER ISNT.

We do know the jets took out elevator service. NO YOU DONT. YOURE ASSUMING.
We know the jets took out / disrupted building electrical services. And disrupted other buildings services. AGAIN ASSUMING.

THE VERY FACT THERE WERE A SERIES MASSIVE EXPLSIONS BEFORE THE BUILDING HIT DEBUNKS ALL OF YOUR INEPT ASSUMPTIONS.

The jet impacts would have done the same to any controlled demolition system in the area of the jet impacts. 1000% WRONG. MASSIVE ASSUMPTION. YOURE SHOOTING FROM THE HIP.

Like associated wiring. And for the twin towers, the collapse initiations are on video. And started in the areas of the jet impacts. YOUR #ING POINT? HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE BELOW THE IMPACTED FLOORS HAD TO BE FIRST WEAKENED FOR FREE FALL TO TRANSPIRE. IS LOGIC SO ABSENT FROM YOUR BRAIN THAT THE CONCEPT OF A SKYSCRAPER NEEDING TO BE STRONGER AT ITS LOWER PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE PARAMONT FOR THE SKYSRAPER TO EVEN EXIST? ITS COMMON SENSE


Fire would have destroyed any computer / remote detonators. And the heat from the fires. YOURE ASSUMING, YOU DO REALIZE THAT YES?

Only someone with no critical thinking skills would believe a demolition system would maintain its integrity when jet impacts destroyed columns, dislodge floor pans, the jet debris flew through the towers like buckshot. Destroying electrical and elevator services. Followed by fire and heat. And somehow the deranged CD system would have maintained its integrity to initiate the collapse of each tower at the point of impact.

THATS BECAUSE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION. YOURE WELCOME

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: GLRockwell

You

THERE WAS NO CONTAINMENT ,NONE. FROM DAY TWO THE GROUND ZERO WAS CLOSED OFF AND ALL VITAL EVIDENCE WAS RECYCLED AWAY

A statement made by you out of ignorance, and believing truth movement lies.

Anguished search a grim task at landfill

www.baltimoresun.com...

"It's a corporal work of mercy," said New York Police Department Deputy Inspector James Luongo, who heads the sifting and retrieval effort. "We're helping to bury the dead."

The site has a second mission, although the importance of that has diminished over time: The search continues for a chunk of incriminating evidence and for the black boxes from the jetliners that hit the twin towers, killing nearly 3,000 people.

Already 900,000 tons have been processed in this arduous effort, including heavy steel that has been recycled. At the center of the operation are several work areas, each equipped with three large conveyor belts: one for fine soil and particles, one for solid pieces as tiny as one-quarter inch, and one for larger chunks.

Forensic teams look back at 20-year mission to identify World Trade Center remains

abcnews.go.com...

Over 22,000 human bone and tissue samples have been recovered from Ground Zero over the years, according to OCME. And by the end of May 2002, 736 victims were identified without DNA matching, according to a report issued by Butler a decade ago.

A landfill in their backyard
By Isabelle Chapman, CNN
Published Friday, Sept. 11, 2020 at 1:30 a.m. ET

After 9/11, Staten Island’s defunct Fresh Kills landfill became a forensic site for Ground Zero debris. Nineteen years later, the city is transforming it into a park. Residents worry it’s making them sick, but the city has found “little evidence” of a link.

www.cnn.com...


Workers spent more than 10 months sifting through rubble looking for evidence from the attacks including plane parts, office ID badges, jewelry and human remains.

“It was one of the most upsetting things I’ve ever seen,” lawyer Michael Barasch, who has handled personal injury cases for 9/11 first responders and visited the site in the months following the attacks, said. “You knew that people’s bodies and bones and tissue were inside this mass (of debris).”

Pictures of WTC steel I have picked up here and there..

JESUS #ING CHRIST MAN, THAT DEBRIS , WHICH IS TINY % OF WHAT WAS HAULED OUT OF GROUND ZERO(WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 3 STORY HIGH AMOUNT OF DEBRIS) WAS STUDIEDAND INVESTIGATEED 2 YEARS AFTER THE EVENT. YEA LET THAT SINK IN.

a reply to: GLRockwell

Pieces of steel from the wreckage of the World Trade Center buildings rests in Hangar 17 at the John F. Kennedy International airport below an American flag. A program to give away relics from the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 in New York for memorials ended in August. Photo By Peter Gat

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A 2008 Tour of Hangar 17 and the Artifacts of 9/11
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The steel is one of 1,300 pieces that are making their way to memorials across South Jersey, the nation and the world in advance of the 10th anniversary of the terrorist attacks that sent the towers plummeting to the ground.

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Funny. None of the WTC steel looks like it was exposed to molten metal.





With no signs of arcing and sparking, not anything molten in the core before it collapsed.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: GLRockwell

You

I HAVE ADDRESSED EVERYTHING YOU HAVE POSTED.I HAVE GIVEN MORE FEEDBAK, GIVEN MORE INTEL ON THE MATTER. YOU HAVENT. ALL YOUVE DONE IS ASSUME THIS OR THAT.

You complain about what I post with no evidence or logical argument to contradict what I post.

I COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR DEFLETION TATICS. ALL YOU DO IS MOVE THE GOALPOST.

a reply to: GLRockwell

So. You don’t have actual evidence to post like I am doing?

a reply to: GLRockwell

You

THATS BECAUSE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION. YOURE WELCOME

Your not exactly posting anything to support your cause? You only have personal insults?

originally posted by: GLRockwell

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: GLRockwell

You

THERE WAS NO CONTAINMENT ,NONE. FROM DAY TWO THE GROUND ZERO WAS CLOSED OFF AND ALL VITAL EVIDENCE WAS RECYCLED AWAY

A statement made by you out of ignorance, and believing truth movement lies.

Anguished search a grim task at landfill

www.baltimoresun.com...

"It's a corporal work of mercy," said New York Police Department Deputy Inspector James Luongo, who heads the sifting and retrieval effort. "We're helping to bury the dead."

The site has a second mission, although the importance of that has diminished over time: The search continues for a chunk of incriminating evidence and for the black boxes from the jetliners that hit the twin towers, killing nearly 3,000 people.

Already 900,000 tons have been processed in this arduous effort, including heavy steel that has been recycled. At the center of the operation are several work areas, each equipped with three large conveyor belts: one for fine soil and particles, one for solid pieces as tiny as one-quarter inch, and one for larger chunks.

Forensic teams look back at 20-year mission to identify World Trade Center remains

abcnews.go.com...

Over 22,000 human bone and tissue samples have been recovered from Ground Zero over the years, according to OCME. And by the end of May 2002, 736 victims were identified without DNA matching, according to a report issued by Butler a decade ago.

A landfill in their backyard
By Isabelle Chapman, CNN
Published Friday, Sept. 11, 2020 at 1:30 a.m. ET

After 9/11, Staten Island’s defunct Fresh Kills landfill became a forensic site for Ground Zero debris. Nineteen years later, the city is transforming it into a park. Residents worry it’s making them sick, but the city has found “little evidence” of a link.

www.cnn.com...


Workers spent more than 10 months sifting through rubble looking for evidence from the attacks including plane parts, office ID badges, jewelry and human remains.

“It was one of the most upsetting things I’ve ever seen,” lawyer Michael Barasch, who has handled personal injury cases for 9/11 first responders and visited the site in the months following the attacks, said. “You knew that people’s bodies and bones and tissue were inside this mass (of debris).”

Pictures of WTC steel I have picked up here and there..

JESUS #ING CHRIST MAN, THAT DEBRIS , WHICH IS TINY % OF WHAT WAS HAULED OUT OF GROUND ZERO(WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 3 STORY HIGH AMOUNT OF DEBRIS) WAS STUDIEDAND INVESTIGATEED 2 YEARS AFTER THE EVENT. YEA LET THAT SINK IN.

Having actual pictures to post of WTC steel, the recovery effort of remains/evidence, and citing the NYPD efforts in the investigation/forensic recovery is very different than you falsely implying

THERE WAS NEVER AN INVESTIGATION,NEVER.

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a reply to: GLRockwell

How am I moving the goal post. My post are constant. The delusion the WTC was brought down by planted pyrotechnics (explosives/thermite) is dead on arrival.

Again. The controlled demolition systems would have never survived the jet impacts and fires. Especially for the twin towers where the collapse of each tower was initiated in the areas of the jet impacts.

There is no indication the cores were cut by explosives or thermite since the core columns fell after being stripped of the floor system loosing lateral support, and tumbled down.










Have I changed my argument?

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: GLRockwell

How am I moving the goal post. BECAUSE YOU DONT DEBATE ME HEAD ON.

My post are constant. CONSTANT ASSUMPTIONS

The delusion the WTC was brought down by planted pyrotechnics (explosives/thermite) is dead on arrival. BASED ON WHAT AND WHOM? YOU?

Again. The controlled demolition systems would have never survived the jet impacts and fires. Especially for the twin towers where the collapse of each tower was initiated in the areas of the jet impacts. AGAIN YOU DONT KNOW THAT. YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN CONSTRUCTION NOR DEMOLITION. YOU JUST DONT. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT #ING FACTUAL PART? FOR SOME REASON YOU CANT ACCEPT THAT, HENCE WHY YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE GOAL POST AWAY FROM THAT #ING FACT.

There is no indication the cores were cut by explosives or thermite since the core columns fell after being stripped of the floor system loosing lateral support, and tumbled down. BOX COLUMNS FROM THE CORE ARE NOT ACTUAL COLUMNS . WATCH THE VIDEO I POSTEDIN THE PREVIOUS PAGE. BY NOT ENGAGING THE VIDEOS I PRESENT IS MORE PROOF YOU DEFLECT.

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Have I changed my argument? ONE CAN MOVE THE GOALPOST WITHIN THEIR ARGUEMNT . THATS WHAT YOURE DOING.

YES YOU HAVE

WATCH THE #ING VIDEO
www.youtube.com...

a reply to: GLRockwell

You

ITS A FACT THE NIST REPORT WAS CONDUCTED 2 YEARS AFTER THE EVENT.

Ok. And I am not discussing NIST. I am citing the video evidence.

You

LET THAT SINK IN

What sink in. When I reference the video evidence in there is no evidence the WTC was brought down by planted pyrotechnics?

You

SO YOURE WRONG.

Sorry. There is no credible evidence the WTC collapsed because of planted pyrotechnics. And you have provided no actual evidence. Just truth movement innuendo, falsehoods, lies, and your insults.

AND HVING PICTURESOF WTC STEEL PROVES NOTHING.

Do you have photos of steel worked on my pyrotechnics?

Here. I’ll help you out…

2400 UNSEEN 9/11 PHOTOS FOUND ON CDS AT A HOUSE CLEARANCE SALE


www.diyphotography.net...

All 2,389 of the images have been uploaded to an album on Flickr, by Jason Scott. Jason is the one who attended the sale and acquired the CDs. Dr Johnathan Burgess, a colleague of Jason’s says that “it’s a miracle the discs transferred so well, CD Roms of that age are pretty spotty”. The BBC reports that a CD recover service was used to retrieve some of the images.

Post any pictures you think supports your cause.

You

WHY DONT YOU WATCH THE VIDEOS I POSTED

Because I can watch the actual collapse videos without truth movement ignorant comments. Comments you don’t think worth the time to quote and cite.

OH THATS RIGHT YOU CANT.

Can’t what? I am posting actual facts why their is no credible evidence the twin towers were brought down by planted pyrotechnics. And call out the truth movement lies with proof.

While you just complain and insult.